2007 Federal Election - Australia Decides

[Ljp86]

2007 Federal Election - Australia Decides

So, with the Australian Federal Election going on yesterday, let's get a concensus on the BigCricket folk and their thoughts on the election. Even if you are underaged, you are welcome to vote and share your thoughts.

Kevin Rudd appears to have won the election in what can only be described as a landslide. Rudd needed to take 16 seats off the John Howard lead Liberals to form government, it looks as if that figure will finish somewhere around 29. It will be a crushing win to Labor, something they have waited almost 12 years for. The swing against the Coalition was huge, something over 5% overall with the swing even bigger in Queensland and New South Wales where the Libs suffered heavy losses. And to add insult to injury, Jh Howard looks as if he will lose his own seat of Bennelong, therefore ousting him from parliament.

So, who did you vote for and who did you want to win? Your comments here.

 

[schwab2clarkson]

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I voted for the Liberal party.
We now have a Prime minister who eats his earwax.


Seriously
Good luck to him

 

[Kram81]

Re: 2007 Federal Election - Australia Decides

Haha Pidge, that was pretty gross.

I voted Liberal as I usually do, record low unemployment, great economic management, and good for security trading - Howard makes the tough/unpopular decisions, people have such short memories and Rudd is full of cheap gimmicks and catchphrases. Anyway good luck too Kevin, the Libs were probably getting too over confident and some change will bring some fresh contests and thinking in Australian politics.

 

[schwab2clarkson]

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Haha Pidge, that was pretty gross.

I voted Liberal as I usually do, record low unemployment, great economic management, and good for security trading - Howard makes the tough/unpopular decisions, people have such short memories and Rudd is full of cheap gimmicks and catchphrases. Anyway good luck too Kevin, the Libs were probably getting too over confident and some change will bring some fresh contests and thinking in Australian politics.

I know it was pretty gross. When I first saw that footage I thought what a disgusting habit. Ewww. That is just as bad as seeing my little niece and nephew picking their noses and eating the contents off their fingers.
Who would want to eat their earwax? Gross.

I voted Liberal because when I was still at school I got to meet Michael Ronaldson who held the federal seat for Ballarat and he was in the Liberal Party. So I will never forget to vote for the Liberal party. @|
How did I meet Michael Ronaldson? We were in a debating class and we were to be with the politicians. I got to stand right next to Michael Ronaldson.

 

[Ljp86]

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I voted Labor. I'm sick of Howard, don't like him and he has lost touch with the Australian public. WorkChoices, People Overboard, Iraq and other stuff was all bull******** and frankly, the Liberals got what they deserved.

I like Kevin Rudd. I believe he is a very likeable person and is most definitely a worthy candidate to be Prime Minister. Just think, he has thrashed the Libs in under a year (he's only been Labor leader for 50 weeks). The stuff about the unions is ridiculous and the amount of scare tactics thrown up by the Libs was a joke, it was as if Australia would crumble into a third world nation if Labor was elected into power.

People forget that Howard is the worst treasurer in Australian history, a time where interest rates were 22% but were capped at 13% because they were so ridiculously high, something which many seem to have forgotten.

Labor were also the forefront of Australia's current booming economy, something which the Liberals inherited but they've helped it to power on. Let's not forget that they aren't the sole reason why the economy is so strong.

Anyway, I'm glad Labor has got into power, hopefully they will be able to ratify what they said they'd do if elected. The Libs look like a bit of a rabble at the moment, reflecting what has happened to the Liberals at a state level. With Howard gone, Costello seeing his time out on the backbench and Mark Vaile quitting as Nationals leader, we could see a massive power struggle within the party, something which could tear it further apart.

 

[schwab2clarkson]

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I voted Labor. I'm sick of Howard, don't like him and he has lost touch with the Australian public. WorkChoices, People Overboard, Iraq and other stuff was all bull******** and frankly, the Liberals got what they deserved.

I like Kevin Rudd. I believe he is a very likeable person and is most definitely a worthy candidate to be Prime Minister. Just think, he has thrashed the Libs in under a year (he's only been Labor leader for 50 weeks). The stuff about the unions is ridiculous and the amount of scare tactics thrown up by the Libs was a joke, it was as if Australia would crumble into a third world nation if Labor was elected into power.

People forget that Howard is the worst treasurer in Australian history, a time where interest rates were 22% but were capped at 13% because they were so ridiculously high, something which many seem to have forgotten.

Labor were also the forefront of Australia's current booming economy, something which the Liberals inherited but they've helped it to power on. Let's not forget that they aren't the sole reason why the economy is so strong.

Anyway, I'm glad Labor has got into power, hopefully they will be able to ratify what they said they'd do if elected. The Libs look like a bit of a rabble at the moment, reflecting what has happened to the Liberals at a state level. With Howard gone, Costello seeing his time out on the backbench and Mark Vaile quitting as Nationals leader, we could see a massive power struggle within the party, something which could tear it further apart.

You do realise that when you voted for the Labor party you actually voted for the unionists as well... Which means we will have nothing but strike action all the time from all those who hate their jobs and have nothing to do but whinge and complain about why they hate their work. |@

 

[Ljp86]

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You do realise that when you voted for the Labor party you actually voted for the unionists as well... Which means we will have nothing but strike action all the time from all those who hate their jobs and have nothing to do but whinge and complain about why they hate their work. |@

I see the Liberal propaganda has claimed yet another victim.

"Oh my God, Rudd is in, the unionists will rule the earth and everyone will work 3 mins a day and the whole of Australia is screwed!!!!"

Please. That is a weak argument. If it wasn't for unions, you'd be working 14hours a day for minimum pay, no holidays, no breaks etc.

 

[schwab2clarkson]

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I see the Liberal propaganda has claimed yet another victim.

"Oh my God, Rudd is in, the unionists will rule the earth and everyone will work 3 mins a day and the whole of Australia is screwed!!!!"

Please. That is a weak argument. If it wasn't for unions, you'd be working 14hours a day for minimum pay, no holidays, no breaks etc.

It's not a weak argument.
The nurses and the teachers are all having strike action over pay increases here in victoria.
Victoria's state government is Labor. Trust me they don't listen to what our comments. That's what Labor is like.
Hey yeah you might be a Labor voter but look we all have a right to agree to disagree as it is a free country and you have to get over whatever it is that is annoying you.
It's not going to stop you from making your comments about the Labor party, I understand that. However, it will stop you on many forums telling everyone to that the Labor party is ok especially when you haven't done any research.

Work Choices or whatever they are called are designed for those loyal workers who want to stay working for their employers. If the employers treat you badly then go and take action against your employer, that is why it is in place. It makes the employer accountable for looking after their workers.

 

[schwab2clarkson]

Re: 2007 Federal Election - Australia Decides

What's your problem Ljp? I have noticed that you have been really pissed off lately. PM me. I promise that I won't tell anyone.

 

[Ljp86]

Re: 2007 Federal Election - Australia Decides

It's not a weak argument.

It's a scare tactic, Liberals' whole campaign revolved around scaring the public into believing that Labor would do a poor job with the economy that they helped start!

The nurses and the teachers are all having strike action over pay increases here in victoria.
Victoria's state government is Labor. Trust me they don't listen to what our comments. That's what Labor is like.

Suzi, they have every right to protest. Teachers and Nurses are some of the most undervalued people in society. They help educate our population as well as save lives, these people should be getting paid an appropriate amount of money for what they do for our your state and our country. I see the government there offered them a measly 3% over three years, that is nowhere near enough, although I agree that what they were asking for originally was a bit rich.

Every state government in Australia is governed by the Labor party. Labor's recent win at the federal level means that every government located within Australia at a state and federal level has Labor in charge. We all know that Labor is affliated with the unions so why haven't these pay rises been given since Labor is in charge of Victoria? The unions don't have such a marked influence of the Labor governments as what some people are lead to believe.

Hey yeah you might be a Labor voter but look we all have a right to agree to disagree as it is a free country and you have to get over whatever it is that is annoying you.
It's not going to stop you from making your comments about the Labor party, I understand that. However, it will stop you on many forums telling everyone to that the Labor party is ok especially when you haven't done any research.

I've done enough research to know what I am expressing on my side of the ledger.

Work Choices or whatever they are called are designed for those loyal workers who want to stay working for their employers. If the employers treat you badly then go and take action against your employer, that is why it is in place. It makes the employer accountable for looking after their workers.

It also gives employees less power. You have to remember that WorkChoices has affected a vast portion of the Australian public and has made many families (particularly those that struggle to keep their head above water including working class families) worse off. Employees can be dismissed for whatever reason now under WorkChoices, their pay, hours, benefits and holidays have also been cut back, quite severely in some cases.

And with John Howard announcing that he would retire halfway through the term, a vote for Liberal was effectively a vote for Peter Costello who would have taken over once Howard called it quits. A lot of people do not like Peter Costello and would not like to see him in power. He showed what sort of person he is on Monday by pulling out of that leadership race, he is nothing more than a soft, frontrunning pansy.

You know Goldenblue, the BigFooty Super Mod? Here's how WorkChoices affected him as posted on the West Coast sub-board "The Nest",

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9519047#post9519047

Can you see how it has affected some and why so many people voted for Labor this time around?

No wonder Labor won, the majority don't trust the Libs anymore and many did not want them to see another term in power.

 

[schwab2clarkson]

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He should have taken his employer to the workplace ombudsman in his state.

 

[aussieman]

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i voted for the Liberal Party

however, NOTHING will change under Kevin Rudd.

everything will be basically the same.

we'll still do nothing about the droughts/water situation
petrol prices will still be high
we'll still be in iraq
work choices will still be around (although i believe it may be the only thing that changes slightly under the ALP)
GST will still be around
the economy won't change
interest rates won't change much at all
we won't change our global warming/pollution ways

nothing will change

 

[TheStraighter1]

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kevin rudd is a dud

 

[Kram81]

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I see the Liberal propaganda has claimed yet another victim.

"Oh my God, Rudd is in, the unionists will rule the earth and everyone will work 3 mins a day and the whole of Australia is screwed!!!!"

Please. That is a weak argument. If it wasn't for unions, you'd be working 14hours a day for minimum pay, no holidays, no breaks etc.

What a load of rubbish.

 

[Kram81]

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Rudd is a knob. Increasing tax on pre-mixed spirits to stop chicks from drinking too much? Which would you rather your kids do (if I have any in 10+ years..) buy a 6 pack of vodka cruisers or a 700ml bottle of straight vodka and a bottle of Fanta?? Shameless tax grab whilst pretending to be Mr save the community.

And raising the Medicare levy? If you can't pay 550$ for insurance earning 50k+ a year there is something very wrong. Paying the levy last year kicked my butt into (finally) taking out insurance, Labor seems to want to kill Private health insurance.

Rant over

 

[Ljp86]

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Rudd is a knob. Increasing tax on pre-mixed spirits to stop chicks from drinking too much? Which would you rather your kids do (if I have any in 10+ years..) buy a 6 pack of vodka cruisers or a 700ml bottle of straight vodka and a bottle of Fanta?? Shameless tax grab whilst pretending to be Mr save the community.

Agree. I work in a liquor store and the amount of people who end up buying a bottle rather than RTD's has increased by a fair margin. It is now ridiculously cheaper to buy a bottle rather than buy a four or a six pack of RTD's and the kids are just going to go for that option now. Some people are still buying them though, a few seem to be unaffected by the price rises. The cartons prices for most of the bourbons, whiskeys and others have priced most people out of the market, they're just far too high for anyone to bother buying one. Coincidentally, we're going through bottles like hot cakes at the moment, Jim Beam is basically flying out the door as are a few other brands of spirits.

It's pissed off a lot of the older people (25+) who drink responsibly, they're now being penalized for doing the right thing. In fact, most people are being penalized now because a small minority took things too far. We're charging $24.50 for a six pack of Jim Beam now, Liquorland are charging $27!!!

Don't agree with these changes at all, it won't stop anyone really, they'll just go and buy bottles of spirits instead. What they need is improved education, the rights and wrongs of drinking to excess need to be made more clear as well as the standard drinks of specific drinks as well as how much is in a pint, midi, schooner, shot and all that and also the consequences of being intoxicated. Warning people that slurred speech is a result of drinking isn't going to stop people from getting smashed.

Not to mention the amount of people who've cracked the shits because of the new prices...

 

[aussieman]

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Price rises don't effect anyone or anything really do they?

yes, people complain about the price of some sort of alcopop (i actually had someone explain to me what an alcopop was the other day - being a non-drinker, i was basically clueless) now, but do they still buy them? i'm sure they do. People complain about the price of fuel. Do they still buy it? you better believe it.


read my little bit a couple of posts back guys. Especially my last line. Have i been correct so far?

He based his campaign on Work Choices, Kevin07 worked, he'll win in 2011 too. You know why? Kevin11 will be based on Work Choices, the Coalition will bring it back, waa, waa, waa.

nothing will change.

My suggestion to Rudd to gain a bit of popularity at the moment: remove the double GST on Fuel. approx 16 cents of GST x2 is on every litre at the moment (so roughly 32 cents a litre). Remove it! it drops fuel by around 16 cents a litre, and it will work, it will work if it happens. Why do we need a double GST on something EVERYONE uses?