Australian Test XI - Selection Thread

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Re: Australian Test XI - Selection Thread

Boris;378599 said:
Woops, has played Test cricket, but unsuccessfully. Most probably won't get another chance.

CA want Hughes, that seems to be a given, but with his weakness he wasn't going to make it. They bring Watson in to help with the way under-performing bowling and to make some runs at the top, most likely a short term fix until their main man Hughes gets back.
They aren't really looking at Rogers at all.[/QUOTE]

And this sort of sentiment will always produce bias rumors.

Watson hasn't bowled thaat much in tests has he? WI series is not only the fill you boots tour far bats but sort of bowlers as well. The balls he has got wicktets with so far have been rubbish. too short, too strait, too crap!
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Thumbs up;378605 said:
Watson hasn't bowled thaat much in tests has he? WI series is not only the fill you boots tour far bats but sort of bowlers as well. The balls he has got wicktets with so far have been rubbish. too short, too strait, too crap!
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Well that's very opinionated when you consider that Watson only bowls a few overs every innings and has walked away with a wicket from it 70% of the time. He bowled in England as well and went for low economy rates and had a wicket here and there.

Did very well in the ODIs and looks like he is fit enough to keep bowling again.

Bias much.
 
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Boris;378606 said:
Well that's very opinionated when you consider that Watson only bowls a few overs every innings and has walked away with a wicket from it 70% of the time. He bowled in England as well and went for low economy rates and had a wicket here and there.

Did very well in the ODIs and looks like he is fit enough to keep bowling again.

Bias much.
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Absolutely! At least I'll admit it. None the less you cannot support Watson as a bat and a bowler offering enough to trouble any batsman other than Hussey. I.e. he doesn't bowl much.

If we want economy then ronny mcdonald is waiting.:D
 
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Thumbs up;378608 said:
Absolutely! At least I'll admit it. None the less you cannot support Watson as a bat and a bowler offering enough to trouble any batsman other than Hussey. I.e. he doesn't bowl much.

If we want economy then ronny mcdonald is waiting.:D
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Aha we have found the next Test opener from that post!

It's Andrew McDonald!

Yes he can open very well with an average below twenty.
 
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Thumbs up;378602 said:
I think you'll find that Siddle did fairly well when Bollinger was busy showing the world what mediocrity really is!
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Bollinger played one game, from which he walked away from with two wickets.

Siddle played the whole series and that Sydney Test that Bollinger played in with him was the only one he walked away with decent figures, 8 for the match.

The rest he had either 0,1,2 or 3 for the match with 4 rpo economy rates.

They were also filled with some long boring spells where he did nothing in the air, nothing off the seam and bowled constantly on a line outside off stump where the batsman just left him over after over.

I remember watching that series on the weekends at the cricket club after or during our game for the weekend with the rest of the team/s down there. Everyone was booing around the club everytime Siddle came on such was the boredom of his pointless spells.
 
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Boris;378598 said:
Funny how Queensland thrashed Victoria last year with an inexperienced and definitely not up to the standard side :p
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Really? Seeing as we are talking test teams and therefore first class cricket, I dont recall the Bulls beating Victoria for a long time there, matter of fact the 2nd XI just knocked off QLD by an innings :D And no team beat Victoria last year

As for NSW bias, Michael Clarke over Brad Hodge more than 5 years ago is another fine example of a NSW player doing nothing being picked over a top player with the runs on the board. Phil Hughes could also be a good example, rushed in after 1 good season and being shown up because he hadnt been properly tested at first class level due to always missing the plane to away trips that werent to the Adelaide Oval :D
 
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eddiesmith;378615 said:
Really? Seeing as we are talking test teams and therefore first class cricket, I dont recall the Bulls beating Victoria for a long time there, matter of fact the 2nd XI just knocked off QLD by an innings :D And no team beat Victoria last year
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I forgot to include in the ODers.

Which is the place where Queensland had their youngest players.
 
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Boris;378616 said:
I forgot to include in the ODers.

Which is the place where Queensland had their youngest players.
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One dayers are alot about luck, the best teams shine in the 4 day format
 
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Boris;378614 said:
Bollinger played one game, from which he walked away from with two wickets.

Siddle played the whole series and that Sydney Test that Bollinger played in with him was the only one he walked away with decent figures, 8 for the match.

The rest he had either 0,1,2 or 3 for the match with 4 rpo economy rates.

They were also filled with some long boring spells where he did nothing in the air, nothing off the seam and bowled constantly on a line outside off stump where the batsman just left him over after over.

I remember watching that series on the weekends at the cricket club after or during our game for the weekend with the rest of the team/s down there. Everyone was booing around the club everytime Siddle came on such was the boredom of his pointless spells.
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It is amazing isnt it what Siddle could do with a decent bowler like McDonald at the other end putting pressure on, the earlier tests they had Krezja and Hauritz and Brett Lee leaking so many runs it was impossible to create pressure. Yet with a decent bowling all performing in Sydney on his favourite wicket, Bollinger still couldnt get the job done :D
 
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eddiesmith;378617 said:
One dayers are alot about luck, the best teams shine in the 4 day format
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Nobody specified the format so I thought I'd be smug :p

Every era that teams go through shows why they are winning. The Victorian team has strong players that could all play for Australia but are just ousted by people from other states.

Just like when Queensland won the Pura Cup a little bit ago. In the team there was Jimmy Maher, Martin Love, Michael Kasperwicz, Andy Bichel and the list goes on. They could have all played for Australia but were just beaten, so as a result they became the best team of that season because they had most of their powerhouses still at home playing for them. The same is happening with the Vics now, and the tide will change soon.
 
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I doubt it, our players never get picked and even with 9 first choice fast bowlers out we still keep winning
 
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eddiesmith;378620 said:
It is amazing isnt it what Siddle could do with a decent bowler like McDonald at the other end putting pressure on, the earlier tests they had Krezja and Hauritz and Brett Lee leaking so many runs it was impossible to create pressure. Yet with a decent bowling all performing in Sydney on his favourite wicket, Bollinger still couldnt get the job done :D
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Funny that Lee had better figures in the first two Tests after doing well against the Kiwis. He was more economical than McDonald ;)

Bollinger had the same start as Siddle, and as a result if one continues on, then the other deserves the same chance.
 
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What I'm trying to say is that the Domestic season is just one of those comps where the win rotates around depending on who has the least players playing internationally pretty much.

And theres a reason Victorians never get picked :p
 
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From what I have seen there isn't a lot between Hilfenhaus, Siddle, Bollinger and Johnson.

This is great for Australian cricket, especially when you consider some of the other bowlers hailed as gods around the world like Sharma, Anderson, Broad, Steyn and co, all of which arguably wouldn't get a start in this Australian test side.
 
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Steyn and Sharma probably would, and knowing their selection techniques, so would the other two. Unfortunately.
 
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I'm just joking around there, LtD.

In seriousness though, I think the Aussie Selectors could learn a little about blooding new players from Queensland. To bring the side as it is to where it is in a few months with very, very little experience is something else and all relies on having experienced players balance them out where they can. As shown they are still a little wayward in the 4 dayers, with a good performance and then an innings defeat, but the ODers are brilliant currently, will most likely win the title.
 
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Boris;378623 said:
Funny that Lee had better figures in the first two Tests after doing well against the Kiwis. He was more economical than McDonald ;)

Bollinger had the same start as Siddle, and as a result if one continues on, then the other deserves the same chance.
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I love sarcasm.

How many wickets did Lee take against South Africa?
How many did Siddle get?
What was Lees econ rate? Siddles? McDonalds?

Junk time wickets like NZ or WI tests mean little. Do it against the big boys or don't bother turning up.
 
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Thumbs up;378638 said:
I love sarcasm.

How many wickets did Lee take against South Africa?
How many did Siddle get?
What was Lees econ rate? Siddles? McDonalds?

Junk time wickets like NZ or WI tests mean little. Do it against the big boys or don't bother turning up.
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I was talking about the first Test only, Lee had better figures than Siddle with an economy rate of 2.4 and better looking spells. Then it went downhill, and Siddle had the better for the second game.

Then there is the choice that Siddle is doing and do worse against the worse teams... :p
 
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