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England vs Pakistan 2010

Interesting series this, especially in light of Pakistan beating Australia in England and their continuing fight in the sport of cricket despite adversary. England are readying for the Ashes and aren't doing so badly at home.

Here are the first three Test's results:

1st Test: England v Pakistan at Nottingham - Jul 29-Aug 1, 2010
England won by 354 runs

England 354 and 262/9d; Pakistan 182 and 80

Scorecard


2nd Test: England v Pakistan at Birmingham - Aug 6-9, 2010
England won by 9 wickets

Pakistan 72 and 296; England 251 and 118/1

Scorecard


3rd Test: England v Pakistan at The Oval - Aug 18-21, 2010
Pakistan won by 4 wickets

England 233 and 222; Pakistan 308 and 148/6

Scorecard


And fixtures for the rest of the tour:

Tests:
4th Test: England v Pakistan at Lord's - Aug 26-30, 2010

T20Is:
1st T20I: England v Pakistan at Cardiff - Sep 5, 2010
2nd T20I: England v Pakistan at Cardiff - Sep 7, 2010

ODIs:
1st ODI: England v Pakistan at Chester-le-Street - Sep 10, 2010
2nd ODI: England v Pakistan at Leeds - Sep 12, 2010
3rd ODI: England v Pakistan at The Oval - Sep 17, 2010
4th ODI: England v Pakistan at Lord's - Sep 20, 2010
5th ODI: England v Pakistan at Southampton - Sep 22, 2010

Once again they are playing ODIs like they're going out of fashion or something...
 
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Fourth day of the Third Test. All the Tests in England so far this summer have been pretty good ones, and this one is no exception.

Pakistan are fighting back in the series and this match has had a bit of everything.

England are behind the eight ball here, Pakistan are now chasing 143 runs with 9 wickets remaining. They just lost Yasir Hameed early, though, and Pakistan holding their nerve? They almost lost to Australia after having a 150+ first innings lead and only chasing 120 to win... now they lose a wicket first over. Should be a nailbiting day.

It's a full house at The Oval too for what will be the final day's play.

Gonna be a long night for me watching this one...

EDIT: For those of you who couldn't be bothered finding it - Scorecard
 
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Farhat out for a quick 33 off 30 balls.

That was dead plumb from Swann, good ball, not sure why he reviewed it. What's that 102 wickets for him now?
 
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Butt and Yousef are sticking in here, taking their time but lifting the run rate slowly.

Swann is the man here for England. He's the only bowler who can do anything about this.

94/2

EDIT: And Swann is the man. Butt gone on 48, edge to Colly at slip.

The pace bowlers really have to work on keeping it tight. The pitch isn't giving them anything and the batsmen are just doing what they want with them no problems. Swann's the man and is bowling well.

Saying that, Yousef is playing well now he's back in the team. He's only on 13 now but he looks like he's been there for a few hours.
 
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Pakistan got there in the end, just had to put the pressure on themselves. 4 wicket win, man of the match goes to Asif with the youngest Pakistani ever to get a 5 wicket haul.

My damn internet dropped out just after lunch and I missed all the interesting stuff.

So the series is now 2-1 to England. Pakistan can't win from here obviously with only one Test left and England are currently holding the trophy, but I'm very sure they'd be delighted to square the series up. Can't wait for Thursday to see it.
 
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This series is turning out to be a cracker.

Only 12.3 overs on the first day, England lost one, should have been two (thanks to another Ahkmal blunder - this time from Umar).

Day two started off with Aamer ripping through the line up. Four ducks, three of them in a row.

Thankfully for England Trott can bat (149 n.o.) and looks like Broad is a more than handy tail ender (120 something n.o.).

It was a magnificent comeback, helped along though by Pakistan in a big way... I'm guessing there'd have to be close to 50 runs in misfields and another 3 catches going down.

Pakistan IMO have the best bowling attack in the world currently. Too bad only half their catches are caught.
 
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Boris;407016 said:
This series is turning out to be a cracker.

Only 12.3 overs on the first day, England lost one, should have been two (thanks to another Ahkmal blunder - this time from Umar).

Day two started off with Aamer ripping through the line up. Four ducks, three of them in a row.

Thankfully for England Trott can bat (149 n.o.) and looks like Broad is a more than handy tail ender (120 something n.o.).

It was a magnificent comeback, helped along though by Pakistan in a big way... I'm guessing there'd have to be close to 50 runs in misfields and another 3 catches going down.

Pakistan IMO have the best bowling attack in the world currently. Too bad only half their catches are caught.
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Spot on Boris. They look potentially like an awesome team if they can just fine tune some of their deficiencies. This team also seems to be less inclined to drop the head when things aren't going quite right. That is a big change for a Pakistan team over the last decade or so, IMHO. They seem to have a belief in themselves that has been missing in the recent past. I would hate them to fall back into that behaviour due to frustration with the lack of quality fielding!
 
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onemoreover;407026 said:
Spot on Boris. They look potentially like an awesome team if they can just fine tune some of their deficiencies. This team also seems to be less inclined to drop the head when things aren't going quite right. That is a big change for a Pakistan team over the last decade or so, IMHO. They seem to have a belief in themselves that has been missing in the recent past. I would hate them to fall back into that behaviour due to frustration with the lack of quality fielding!
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I have talked about fielding before many a time. The sub-continental teams have never put importance on fielding at the right times in the right stages. For a player to be good at fielding the obviously need to be doing it from a young age and properly.

The way kids play over there is different to more Western culture teams. In India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh they grow up playing in dusty, bumpy and hard alleyways and roads in between buildings and other obstacles. This makes them great bowlers and in particular batsmen, because by the time they start playing for their local club they are on really flat pitches and quick outfields, a walk in the park in comparison to a bumpy alleyway. But only an idiot would be diving and going for spectacular run outs in those sorts of conditions.

Also the difference in playing conditions when on a proper field is much different. The outfields are very dry and quick, unpleasant to dive on. Also since they are so quick there isn't as much urgency to field, if the batsman times it goes for four, if they don't it drops down in front of them, no need to field well there.

Another factor is the weather. On the subcontinent it is a place of extremes. Extreme heat, extreme humidity, extreme rain when it happens. If it's hot and sticky would you want to be running after balls and putting full power into a dive when you're only playing with your mates?

Compare that to England, Australia and South Africa. They don't play as often as subcontinent players, but when they do they are generally doing it on luscious flat outfields in comparably beautiful weather. Sure Australia can get hot, but unless you're in the far north where it gets humid it doesn't really bother you. Sure England gets cold but just keep your hands warm and you're all good. South Africa is a bit of an extreme place as well but they're just weird :p

The temperaments are also different. I don't know about England and South Africa, but I know here, especially with youngsters, there's competition to be the best fielder in the team, to make catches like Ponting and run outs like Symonds. By the way I see the international subcontinent teams fielding, it sure looks like they just don't really care, or if they do it's sort of a 'you can't teach old dogs new tricks' situation.

Speaking of fielding, I think the Akmals should no longer be in the Pakistan team. Umar scores no runs, Kamran is there only to score runs (obviously not for his keeping) and he doesn't do that often enough, both can't catch, or in Umar's case, can't stop a slowly rolling ball in the field, and both (in particular Umar) shoot their mouths off continuously and find themselves in trouble over and over again, yet do not change. Surely there are two more Test suited players than these two.
 
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The runs are really being stacked on now.

Trott is 180* and Broad is 169*.

Trott has played magnificently but has kind of been overshadowed by Broad... he's nearing Gillespie's record of 201* for a tail ender (although he was nightwatchman when he scored that).

It's 434/7. You'd have to think that England would declare at the fall of a wicket or once a double hundred or two comes up, which ever comes first. It'd day 3 and it would be nice to keep these results flowing.

EDIT: Well it looks like I've put bad luck upon him, Broad falls for 169 after a couple of good balls from Ajmal. The word that has been used by the media is epic... and for once that is true. Trott and Broad together have put up one of the best fightbacks I've ever seen, if it weren't for them Pakistan would be halfway through their innings now and possibly in the lead.
 
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Well this series turned out to have quite an interesting end.

England scored 446 in the end. Pakistan were then rolled for a paltry 74 and didn't fair much better batting a second time, shot out for 146. Umar Akmal made 76 not out in the second innings, Salman Butt was the only other batter above 20 batting a second time. The most worrying thing for Pakistan was the fact they lost 20 wickets in 69.5 overs and that they had seven double figure scores from their 22 batsman.

Graeme Swann picked up nine wickets overall for England, four in the first, five in the second. Steven Finn snared three wickets in the first innings as well.

The biggest news out of the game though is the potential match-fixing scandal which has seen certain members of the Pakistan team paid to bowl no-balls in exhange for money. The revelations will no doubt put Pakistan cricket and also cricket in general under a cloud as match-fixing raises its head once again.
 
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Ljp86;407115 said:
Well this series turned out to have quite an interesting end.

England scored 446 in the end. Pakistan were then rolled for a paltry 74 and didn't fair much better batting a second time, shot out for 146. Umar Akmal made 76 not out in the second innings, Salman Butt was the only other batter above 20 batting a second time. The most worrying thing for Pakistan was the fact they lost 20 wickets in 69.5 overs and that they had seven double figure scores from their 22 batsman.

The biggest news out of the game though is the potential match-fixing scandal which has seen certain members of the Pakistan team paid to bowl no-balls in exhange for money. The revelations will no doubt put Pakistan cricket and also cricket in general under a cloud as match-fixing raises its head once again.
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Nope, the most worrying thing for them is that their scams have been uncovered. I wonder if it will actually lead to anything being done by the ICC if proven.
 
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Beeswax;407120 said:
Nope, the most worrying thing for them is that their scams have been uncovered. I wonder if it will actually lead to anything being done by the ICC if proven.
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I was leaning towards on-field problems.

But this match-fixing thing is no doubt the most worrying thing of all. Pakistan cricket is already in a nervous period, this will only make it worse.
 
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It's time they're banned!

Leave some feedback, would love to see your thoughts.
 
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Did you guys actually get to see the match?

It was eerie, that end. The whole ground was quiet, the commentators didn't know what to say, everyone was reading the paper and glaring at the Pakistanis. The English players didn't know what to think and the Pakistanis were sort of skulking, trying to find somewhere on the field to hide.

Umar Akmal made the entertaining half century... but nobody cared. He hit a six, sort of a half-hearted cheer was made and everyone went back to their papers. They were there because they'd already paid for it.

There are five ODIs and two T20s left in the series, as I said on another thread - I'm not sure they should play them.
 
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Boris;407272 said:
Did you guys actually get to see the match?
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I listened to it as I was driving - you could tell there was something not quite right. As you say, it was very quiet with a lot a people slightly bemused/confused.

At the moment I'm scheduled to work the 1st T20 match, will be interesting to say the least.
 
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mas cambios;407326 said:
I listened to it as I was driving - you could tell there was something not quite right. As you say, it was very quiet with a lot a people slightly bemused/confused.

At the moment I'm scheduled to work the 1st T20 match, will be interesting to say the least.
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What are you working in?
 
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Boris;407350 said:
What are you working in?
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That is the million dollar question at the moment. Could be doing an experience day for members, ECB roadshow stuff or just general corporate stuff. Depends on what they have booked and generally I won't find out until closer to the day.

Recently I've been doing a lot of experience days when matches are on but they are normally county games. Basically, it's a tour of the ground and stadium then an hour of private coaching. For the last international game (Eng/Aus 1 day) we did a road show type thingy with the guys from Pitchvision.

The most interesting bit is having access to a lot of areas you don't normally get access to. You get to mingle with players, see them train, warm up and that kind of thing.
 
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mas cambios;407393 said:
That is the million dollar question at the moment. Could be doing an experience day for members, ECB roadshow stuff or just general corporate stuff. Depends on what they have booked and generally I won't find out until closer to the day.

Recently I've been doing a lot of experience days when matches are on but they are normally county games. Basically, it's a tour of the ground and stadium then an hour of private coaching. For the last international game (Eng/Aus 1 day) we did a road show type thingy with the guys from Pitchvision.

The most interesting bit is having access to a lot of areas you don't normally get access to. You get to mingle with players, see them train, warm up and that kind of thing.
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So you do this sort of stuff with the general public? Sounds like a pretty good deal you have, wouldn't mind doing that myself :)
 
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