MMVCA General Cricket Chat 2010/11
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Goneforaduck
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Yep, it's true. It's on their website.
Yep, it's true. It's on their website.
Re: MMVCA General Cricket Chat 2010/11
Firslty, i admit i dont know a great deal about much, let alone the VTCA but if its true that it is a better standard comp how will merlo go?
I understand they have a few good young players and they made the gf, but guys like tyson, punky, borg are still keys to their team and getting longer in the tooth.
There is nothing i have seen from merlo's yougsters overall to suggest they will be anything but handy circketers and if the standard is higher wont the club struggle to be competitive???
If they where dominating all grades i would say fair enough but that is nowhere near the case. Just my 2 cents
Goneforaduck;404706 said:
Firslty, i admit i dont know a great deal about much, let alone the VTCA but if its true that it is a better standard comp how will merlo go?
I understand they have a few good young players and they made the gf, but guys like tyson, punky, borg are still keys to their team and getting longer in the tooth.
There is nothing i have seen from merlo's yougsters overall to suggest they will be anything but handy circketers and if the standard is higher wont the club struggle to be competitive???
If they where dominating all grades i would say fair enough but that is nowhere near the case. Just my 2 cents
mmvca
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I remember a phone conversation we had where you told me merlo were going, but I never gave it another thought.
What ramifications will this have on A Turf?? Does this mean Haig will come back up??
I think alot of players will be pissed if we have a bye.
givemeago;404715 said:
I remember a phone conversation we had where you told me merlo were going, but I never gave it another thought.
What ramifications will this have on A Turf?? Does this mean Haig will come back up??
I think alot of players will be pissed if we have a bye.
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Surely the Executive & Committee of the Comp would have been kept up to date with Merlo's intentions ( good luck 2 them hope it works ) & would be talking to other clubs & have plans in place 2 prevent a bye.
If not eyebrows should be raised.
mmvca;404731 said:
Surely the Executive & Committee of the Comp would have been kept up to date with Merlo's intentions ( good luck 2 them hope it works ) & would be talking to other clubs & have plans in place 2 prevent a bye.
If not eyebrows should be raised.
Gladyboy
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I can understand ppl being against the bye we were too when we had one last year but it was a blessing in disguise having a week off especially if you have functions that will hurt your numbers. We had a club wedding so we asked the comp to fixture our bye that weekend.
Now we are losing it due to a new club coming across from another comp it will be sadly missed.
I can understand ppl being against the bye we were too when we had one last year but it was a blessing in disguise having a week off especially if you have functions that will hurt your numbers. We had a club wedding so we asked the comp to fixture our bye that weekend.
Now we are losing it due to a new club coming across from another comp it will be sadly missed.
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How can having a bye in A grade in any Cricket Comp benifit anybody?
Fair enough it did help ur club last season as a 1 off, but having a bye in the highest grade any Comp has 2 offer would not be a good promotion 4 any Competetion.
Must be a bit of coin on offer in ur comp with 3 lads from Vales who would probably walk in2 any mmvca side heading Roxy way?
Gladyboy;404778 said:
How can having a bye in A grade in any Cricket Comp benifit anybody?
Fair enough it did help ur club last season as a 1 off, but having a bye in the highest grade any Comp has 2 offer would not be a good promotion 4 any Competetion.
Must be a bit of coin on offer in ur comp with 3 lads from Vales who would probably walk in2 any mmvca side heading Roxy way?
Fresh_Prince
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Who are you to be calling clubs a joke or not? They won 1 game and I believe it was apparently against a club who pay all of these players? I can honestly say that English would be a player that Gladdy park would love to have as he gives his all and has a crack.. Doesn't play at the club for money. Calling clubs a joke is a big insult. Words to describe Roxy would be "developing"or "not up to it as yet" but they played allot of kids last year and hope these kids really build on last year.
Gladyboy;404794 said:
Who are you to be calling clubs a joke or not? They won 1 game and I believe it was apparently against a club who pay all of these players? I can honestly say that English would be a player that Gladdy park would love to have as he gives his all and has a crack.. Doesn't play at the club for money. Calling clubs a joke is a big insult. Words to describe Roxy would be "developing"or "not up to it as yet" but they played allot of kids last year and hope these kids really build on last year.
mmvca
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It is bad enough getting washed out, let alone having a bye. We have a very good structure in our A Grade and I would be dead against a bye.
Surely the exec will have to bring either Haig or Ascot Vale up to A Turf??
Now I know Ascot Vale are probably not up to it, but they have to bring up a team.
Gladyboy;404778 said:
It is bad enough getting washed out, let alone having a bye. We have a very good structure in our A Grade and I would be dead against a bye.
Surely the exec will have to bring either Haig or Ascot Vale up to A Turf??
Now I know Ascot Vale are probably not up to it, but they have to bring up a team.
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Agreed MMVCA, i too would be against a bye. It would be a ridiculous situation if that were to happen.
Not sure what the solution is though. But i suppose there are 2 options:
1/ Bring Haig or Ascot Vale up (or another team). Haig went down last year because they weren't upto A Grade standard at this stage, hopefully with some re building etc, they can compete in A Grade again soon. Ascot Vale, don't know them at all, so can't comment.
2/ Drop a side from A Grade to B Grade (and flow it through the grades so there is no bye in B Grade etc). There are a couple of problems with this.
a) East Coburg are the obvious choice, do they want to have no A Grade side? As a long standing member of the competition, it should be there choice (or should it?). But this course of action may help them re build.
b) By doing this would make the 11 round competition unfair, as you would be playing some teams twice and others once. As it stands, everyone play everyone once and that is fair.
Based on my observation, my option would be 1 above.
Also, what are peoples thoughts on a mid week (say Tuesday night, rather than training) MMVCA 20/20 competition? I for one would love to be playing more competitive cricket rather than train.
mmvca;404816 said:
Agreed MMVCA, i too would be against a bye. It would be a ridiculous situation if that were to happen.
Not sure what the solution is though. But i suppose there are 2 options:
1/ Bring Haig or Ascot Vale up (or another team). Haig went down last year because they weren't upto A Grade standard at this stage, hopefully with some re building etc, they can compete in A Grade again soon. Ascot Vale, don't know them at all, so can't comment.
2/ Drop a side from A Grade to B Grade (and flow it through the grades so there is no bye in B Grade etc). There are a couple of problems with this.
a) East Coburg are the obvious choice, do they want to have no A Grade side? As a long standing member of the competition, it should be there choice (or should it?). But this course of action may help them re build.
b) By doing this would make the 11 round competition unfair, as you would be playing some teams twice and others once. As it stands, everyone play everyone once and that is fair.
Based on my observation, my option would be 1 above.
Also, what are peoples thoughts on a mid week (say Tuesday night, rather than training) MMVCA 20/20 competition? I for one would love to be playing more competitive cricket rather than train.
Smoke My Bat
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After playing in B Turf last season, in my opinion Ascot Vale wouldn't be upto A Grade standard from what I saw, unless they have recruited well. They missed the finals and lost their last game to West Coburg who only won 3 games that season. The only options as GEE CEE CEE put it are promote Haig or drop Easts, a bye would be terrible in A grade
After playing in B Turf last season, in my opinion Ascot Vale wouldn't be upto A Grade standard from what I saw, unless they have recruited well. They missed the finals and lost their last game to West Coburg who only won 3 games that season. The only options as GEE CEE CEE put it are promote Haig or drop Easts, a bye would be terrible in A grade
mmvca
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Would clubs be happy with a 8 team A Grade comp, and maybe play every team twice?? ie, play every team in a one dayer and a two dayer?? It would mean a couple of Sunday games, but it definately even it out.
What do you guys think?
Smoke My Bat;404934 said:
Would clubs be happy with a 8 team A Grade comp, and maybe play every team twice?? ie, play every team in a one dayer and a two dayer?? It would mean a couple of Sunday games, but it definately even it out.
What do you guys think?
Gladyboy
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For what its worth that is the set up we have in NWCA and works well and is fair as you play every side twice in both formats.
We have a seperate ladder for one dayers and complete all one dayers by Jan. The two sides on top of the one day ladder play off in a one day grand final for 1K prize on a Sunday with the right to host the day shared evenly between all the clubs, it is always a big money earner for the hosting club as crows is big. The one day points still go on standard ladder for main finals and the finals that count.
Club who wins gets a grand and mom gets 500
mmvca;404939 said:
For what its worth that is the set up we have in NWCA and works well and is fair as you play every side twice in both formats.
We have a seperate ladder for one dayers and complete all one dayers by Jan. The two sides on top of the one day ladder play off in a one day grand final for 1K prize on a Sunday with the right to host the day shared evenly between all the clubs, it is always a big money earner for the hosting club as crows is big. The one day points still go on standard ladder for main finals and the finals that count.
Club who wins gets a grand and mom gets 500
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Sounds ok in theory but could be a shortish in grounds with talk C turf being a Sunday fixture.
Haig would be the only side that might have come back up.
Would they they want 2 expose their younger blokes or keep developing them in B grade?
Is Merlo C turf staying in mmvca? If so.
Scenario could be dropping Easts ( no offence guys ) back 2 B grade & their B grade in2 C grade. Would avoid a bye in C turf.
Fixture in A grade could easily be worked after all have played ea other once.
Top play top & bottom play bottom 2 make up remaining rounds, then no1 gets an unfair advantage.
Maybe getting Moonee Valley in2 A grade, they certainly have the numbers.
Just a thought.
mmvca;404939 said:
Sounds ok in theory but could be a shortish in grounds with talk C turf being a Sunday fixture.
Haig would be the only side that might have come back up.
Would they they want 2 expose their younger blokes or keep developing them in B grade?
Is Merlo C turf staying in mmvca? If so.
Scenario could be dropping Easts ( no offence guys ) back 2 B grade & their B grade in2 C grade. Would avoid a bye in C turf.
Fixture in A grade could easily be worked after all have played ea other once.
Top play top & bottom play bottom 2 make up remaining rounds, then no1 gets an unfair advantage.
Maybe getting Moonee Valley in2 A grade, they certainly have the numbers.
Just a thought.