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multi vitamins.

just wondering wat people think about multi vitamins... is any one using them???

ricky ponting backs the "swisse multi vitamin" just wondering if anyone had any feedback or info??
 
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dude i think there for old farts that there ability for cricket is a bit beyond them
ricky ponting dusnt use them hes just advertising for them
 
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ahh dunno about that.... i rekon they help if you r lacking something in your diet... i kno he doesnt use them... just backs them...
 
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i woodnt reccomend them they will stuff u up
they will reck ur eating patterns some ppl say
 
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kizza said:
i woodnt reccomend them they will stuff u up
they will reck ur eating patterns some ppl say
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I can't say I have heard that.

There is some research that vitamins in pills are either not effective or much less effective than getting them from whole food.

That said, many medical experts recommend the use of a vitamins as 'cover' for a bad diet.

My own view is that most people should just eat more fruit and veg. Problem solved if you are eating 5-10 portions of veg and 2-3 portions of fruit a day.
 
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Harrowdrive said:
My own view is that most people should just eat more fruit and veg. Problem solved if you are eating 5-10 portions of veg and 2-3 portions of fruit a day.
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I have to say that the above is far and away the best thing to do. It's not that hard to get some extra veg and fruit into your diet. People are too eager to take the easy option, vitamins have a use but not as a subsitute for what you can naturally get from a good diet.
 
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exactly harrowdrive thats wat i meant they shouldnt be using vitamins they should be eating healthy
 
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alright no worries....

i wasnt asking bcoz i am taking them... i was curious as to what people think of them...
 
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kizza said:
i woodnt reccomend them they will stuff u up
they will reck ur eating patterns some ppl say
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One of the common side effects of vitamin supplements is constitpation :(
If this is long term, you will not want to eat much, if anything ;)

Harrowdrive said:
That said, many medical experts recommend the use of a vitamins as 'cover' for a bad diet.
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Unfortunately, though doing a fantastic job, most doctors have neither the knowledge nor the time to spend dealing with their patients' nutrition. Recommending multi vitamins and/or prescribing pills [for liver, kidney, skin etc disorders] is what they do. Having said this, many practices these days have in-house dietitians/nutritionists to whom they can refer their patients.

Nobody, in the Western World, should need to use these pills; we have an abundance of really good food around us, however, it is possible, even with all this, to have insufficiencies. These are not usually across the board and any lack of a vitamin or mineral should be isolated. Some vitamins [A for one] are stored in the body, too much of these vitamins can be dangerous.
 
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I'd just like to add a different viewpoint in as much as unfortunately our diet, in general, is very poor with a distinct lack of essential minerals in particular. A large proportion of the population have very low zinc levels for instance - One reason being intensive farming methods that have demineralised it from the soil therefore it does not get into the food chain - wheatgerm has a high zinc content but even the zinc that does get through is then significantly diminished by overprocessing where the germ is actually removed!

Also we live in a stressful environment physically, chemically and emotionally - stress is a much bandied around word but we are all exposed to it and have abandoned many of the coping methods of yesteryear - but that is a different topic - with adrenal stress - be that from an injury, over work, over training, infection - whatever the cause - aldosterone is released - where aldosterone goes sodium follows .. out of the cell - potassium floods in to keep a balance but the now higher level of sodium in the blood causes acidity - in both blood and tissue, so magnesium is utilised at a very high rate as another alkaliser to bring back a balance - thus leaving many people short of magnesium - magnesium is vital in over 300 different body reactions from energy production to healing of injuries.

Generally I would not advise people to take vitamins and minerals willy nilly - they are always best taken under the advice of a professional - and quite frankly many of the supplements available one would be better off eating the packaging rather than the supplement inside as they are often packed with chemicals to speed production process thus making them cheaper to produce but reducing their efficiency by upto 80%!

Whole foods are undoubtedly the best source in an ideal world - ideally produced locally and organically in order to have the best chance of good mineral content - wide variety of nuts and seeds as well (..obviously not for those with a nut allergy ....!! (see the side of a cashew nut packet - caution may contain nuts!!!))

....and don't even get me started on the essential fatty acids ........!

Sorry for the long post but I think it is very important to have a balanced view on this topic as it is a problem facing many western countries......
 
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It is all true but we cannot blame intensive farming for our poor nutrition. We choose what to eat, unfortunately, we generally make the wrong choice.

Essential minerals are 'essential' but tiny amounts go a long way and although dietary magnesium is safe, pharmacological doses in supplements can cause diarrhea and abdominal cramps. Too much can cause kidney failure. 30g (1oz) dry roasted almonds contain 80mg, 20% of the daily value. 90g (3oz) cooked halibut contains 90mg. I know what I would rather consume.

30g (1oz) cheddar cheese contains 1.2mg zinc. 225g (8oz) baked beans contains 1.6mg zinc. My daily allowance is 7mg. Again, I know what I would rather consume. Too much zinc can reduce immune function, and reduced levels of high-density lipoproteins (the good cholesterol).

So we work to change our diet 'in general'. There is no excuse for poor diet in the Western World; the reason diet is poor is because the Western World chooses it!
 
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The western world may choose it on masse but processed food is big money and in our lifestyle quick and easy food is made desirable to us to encourage us to eat in this way - it is a personal choice to eat healthily but that is not a simple choice nowadays - it takes effort and planning and knowledge.

Too little zinc is a big cause of decreased immune function and is one of the reasons for reduced fertility, it is associated with dyslexia and multiple food intolerances - and yes as with anything you can have too much - which is why it is important to take these things under advice - and not for long periods of time - the same goes for magnesium - RDA's take into account what the body needs to function on a day to day basis when all is working well - it does not take into account dietary deficiencies brought about by poor quality nutrition or by external stressors. Refined sugar, for example is an anti-nutrient thereby depleting our mineral stores RDA's do not take these other factors into account.

Again i would not suggest anyone takes extra vitamins and minerals without individual advice and not for long periods of time but it is vitally important to have a very varied and balanced diet in order to achieve a good nutritional balance - but our common food sources - the further away from 'natural' source the less nutritional value they have - or the more additions are made too them - baked beans for example may contain 1.6mg of zinc but also extra sugar and salt in order to preserve them - (1 serving of baked beans being half a tin - gives 1.7g of salt and 10.4g of sugar - which is over a quarter of the recommended adult salt and sugar intake per day in just half a tin of beans)

Variety and close to natural as possible is a sensible way to go IMO.
 
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Bashypack said:
...baked beans for example may contain 1.6mg of zinc but also extra sugar and salt in order to preserve them -(1 serving of baked beans being half a tin - gives 1.7g of salt and 10.4g of sugar - which is over a quarter of the recommended adult salt and sugar intake per day in just half a tin of beans)
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I do not disagree with anything you say but having reached into my pantry for a tin of baked beans [Heinz reduced sugar and salt] for the same weight it contains 0.2g sodium and 3.4g sugar. It took no more effort or planning to take these off the supermarket shelf and the only knowledge I needed was the one to read "reduced sugar and salt". Again, my choice!

Having said this, I only keep a few cans for 'emergencies'. The baked beans I make contain no added sodium or sugar but spices instead. I agree, this does require more knowledge, in this case, I need to be able to read [or remember] a whole recipe. As I say, the choices are there for us all to make; it is no secret that 'homemade' is best.
 
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