Resignation

[Goodbye]

Resignation

To my beloved Kings, I thank you for playing your guts out, and I am honoured to have played with you.

Those that know me from BFFCL know that I have strict ethics.

Tonight, we saw a single Grand Final, played after a best of three semi final.

I'm sorry, but this is 'rules on the run', and something that is unfair and I can't be part of.

If it stands, I quit as Kings captain. I bequeath it to hougie.

 

[doggiesin08]

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To my beloved Kings, I thank you for playing your guts out, and I am honoured to have played with you.

Those that know me from BFFCL know that I have strict ethics.

Tonight, we saw a single Grand Final, played after a best of three semi final.

I'm sorry, but this is 'rules on the run', and something that is unfair and I can't be part of.

If it stands, I quit as Kings captain. I bequeath it to hougie.

Jeez it was decided before the match, funny how everyone at the Magic knew. I thought given it was your only finals match you would have been well aware of what was happening. Take the defeat.

 

[Dirk Kuyt]

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Yeah. It was decided in another thread. I suggested it and I think everyone agreed with me that the GF should be a single match only while the Semi (or Elimination) final should be best of 3

 

[doggiesin08]

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Yeah. It was decided in another thread. I suggested it and I think everyone agreed with me that the GF should be a single match only while the Semi (or Elimination) final should be best of 3

Yeah, isn't all the Champions league stuff home and return legs except for the Final?

 

[Jolldo87]

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Unfair? Not sure how, you would have selected the same side either way. I must admit i didn't post the fact that it would be a one off grand final in the appropriate spot but it didn't affect the outcome of the match.

Rules on the run? You had no problem with us making it a best of 3 semi final series in the first place which was done "on the run".

The reason it was changed from 3 games to 1? It made more sense for the Grand Final to be a one off event and you said it your self:

The best of 3 one dayers was wrong IMHO

It was changed to make the competition better. No one was advantaged or disadvantaged by it.

I'd love you to keep playing in the competition but i won't be changing a decision just to make you happy.

The ball's in your caught. How you play it is up to you.

 

[Dirk Kuyt]

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Yeah, isn't all the Champions league stuff home and return legs except for the Final?

Yep. After the group stage, the games are two legged ties, then the final is a one off game.

Even in the English league cup, it's knock out until the semi final, which is a two-legged tie again and then final is back to a one off game.

 

[Dirk Kuyt]

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Unfair? Not sure how, you would have selected the same side either way. I must admit i didn't post the fact that it would be a one off grand final in the appropriate spot but it didn't affect the outcome of the match.

Rules on the run? You had no problem with us making it a best of 3 semi final series in the first place which was done "on the run".

The reason it was changed from 3 games to 1? It made more sense for the Grand Final to be a one off event and you said it your self:



It was changed to make the competition better. No one was advantaged or disadvantaged by it.

I'd love you to keep playing in the competition but i won't be changing a decision just to make you happy.

The ball's in your caught. How you play it is up to you.

Well said. @|

 

[fred]

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Unfair? Not sure how, you would have selected the same side either way. I must admit i didn't post the fact that it would be a one off grand final in the appropriate spot but it didn't affect the outcome of the match.

Rules on the run? You had no problem with us making it a best of 3 semi final series in the first place which was done "on the run".

The reason it was changed from 3 games to 1? It made more sense for the Grand Final to be a one off event and you said it your self:



It was changed to make the competition better. No one was advantaged or disadvantaged by it.

I'd love you to keep playing in the competition but i won't be changing a decision just to make you happy.

The ball's in your caught. How you play it is up to you.

For the record, I had no idea it was a one game final. I assumed it would be best of three as was the elimination final.
Nothing should be done on the run without full discussion and agreement.

 

[hougie]

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To my beloved Kings, I thank you for playing your guts out, and I am honoured to have played with you.

Those that know me from BFFCL know that I have strict ethics.

Tonight, we saw a single Grand Final, played after a best of three semi final.

I'm sorry, but this is 'rules on the run', and something that is unfair and I can't be part of.

If it stands, I quit as Kings captain. I bequeath it to hougie.

The comp needs you - just like the Dirk/Jeremias situation a couple of days ago.

Maybe the 'rules on the run' could be considered a blunder, but look at the rest of the comp (e.g. BigFooty Medal thread) and you can see the comp admin are more than capable - they're really quite outstanding.

You do have strict morals, but in this situation to condemn an extremely well-run and efficient competition on the premise of one mistake may be going a little too far.

Also, a little heads up with that last bit would've been nice.

 

[Jolldo87]

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For the record, I had no idea it was a one game final. I assumed it would be best of three as was the elimination final.
Nothing should be done on the run without full discussion and agreement.

Yep, you're right and i'm sorry for that.

It's the first year of the competition and the first year i've been admin.

One honest mistake shouldn't result in players resigning and what not.

 

[ToonArmy]

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Ahh, Frodo.

Don't let him worry you fellas, he did the same thing with me. The competition was better when he didn't play.

 

[Goodbye]

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Also, a little heads up with that last bit would've been nice.

Yup, sorry about that.

I'll stay on as a player.

ps If I'd known it was a one off, Therbs would have played.

Gotta look after the good posters.

 

[breeno]

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This is just ridiculous.

The Magic would not have complained had we lost, this is just a case of the kid who goes out taking his bat and ball and going home.

 

[Biggie]

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Sorry that this has happened.

Full discussions wil be had in the future.

Was a little hastened but Season 2 will see a more structured process.

Stick around Frodo, after all its only a game.

 

[hougie]

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This is just ridiculous.

The Magic would not have complained had we lost, this is just a case of the kid who goes out taking his bat and ball and going home.

Far from ridiculous - there should have been dialogue between the admin and captain where wasn't.

Frodo is within his rights, I see his point, but I think he may have gone too far with it. He obviously doesn't.

 

[ozelite]

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I had no idea it was a single game either just to throw my two cents in ... its hard to read every single thread, so everyones opinions certainly weren't canvassed before the backflip!

 

[Jolldo87]

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I had no idea it was a single game either just to throw my two cents in ... its hard to read every single thread, so everyones opinions certainly weren't canvassed before the backflip!

How did you find out in the first place it was 3 games?

 

[Goodbye]

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How did you find out in the first place it was 3 games?

Jolldo, there's no point in being defensive. Everyone saw there was a best of 3 semi final, and would have expected the same for the final.

The main thing is that at season start, the captains and admin had a good dialogue. Things were suggested and put into place with knowledge by all of us.

Now things just happen on bullcrap threads that are not worth reading.

25/25.........you may like it.....nobody asked the captains.

Sim screws up. I offer to fix it. No action.

Being a captain should be worth more than that. This last fiasco is just the last in a series.

Yea, slag me off for taking the stance I have. Defend your mistake.

Who cares, it's only a game.........and we can all decide upon our roles in the game..or walk away. No big loss.

 

[Jolldo87]

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Jolldo, there's no point in being defensive. Everyone saw there was a best of 3 semi final, and would have expected the same for the final.

I was just wondering how everyone knew?

The main thing is that at season start, the captains and admin had a good dialogue. Things were suggested and put into place with knowledge by all of us.

Now things just happen on bullcrap threads that are not worth reading.

So the captains should make all the decisions?

Those threads are made so everyone can have equal input. You're suggestions are always welcome and will be put above the suggestions of most others.

25/25.........you may like it.....nobody asked the captains.

Don't make crap up. I clearly asked the captains what they thought through this e-mail:

Hey guys,

With recruitment and delisting set to occur what i'm planning to do is have a 25 over comp straight after the test grand final and then go straight into pre season for Season 2. Essentially there will be minimal breaks in between to keep the competition moving.

How does this sound and will you have enough time to prepare for Season 2?

Jolldo.

This was sent to you as well as the other 3 captains before the 25/25 comp was announced. If you had a problem you could have told me then.

You didn't.

Sim screws up. I offer to fix it. No action.

I'll say it again, i'm pretty sure i sent it to you.

Being a captain should be worth more than that. This last fiasco is just the last in a series.

Yea, slag me off for taking the stance I have. Defend your mistake.

I have not defend my mistake.

I achknowledged it and apologised.

What else can i do?

And when did i slag you off?

 

[Jolldo87]

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And maybe next time instead of resigning a simple PM to me saying the captains should have more input or whatever would be easier.