Should Ponting Retire From ODI's?

Should Ponting Retire From ODI's?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • No.

    Votes: 6 42.9%

  • Should Retire From All Forms Of International Cricket.

    Votes: 8 57.1%
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Should Ponting Retire From ODI's?

Should Ponting retire from One Day Internationals? He's Just retired from Twenty/20's, we are winning without him, his form has been poor, Clarke is captaining well and he's only taking the place of a young cricketer.

I think he should give it away.

Besides he's old and his body surely must be struggling to hold up. His test form hasn't been great but it might improve if he gives ODI's away.

Thoughts?
 
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No, England are one of the more inept ODI cricket teams I have ever seen. Beating them doesn't prove a damn thing about Clarke's captainicy ability.

Ponting is still IMO, clearly our best captain and batsmen.

Is there any logical reason to give it away? His form has been fine.
 
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I've liked Clarke's captaincy though so far. He is very attacking, which I think is a good thing. Most of the bowling changes he has brought on have worked which has resulted in Australia getting wickets at regular intervals.

Ponting should keep going however, he is still very much good enough to hold his place in the side. I think the 2011 World Cup might be an ideal time for him to call it quits in the one-day arena.
 
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Yeah when you think about it it's not really that long to the next World Cup. If he's fit enough he'd be handy then he can call it a day.
 
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he will and should play until the 2011 world cup.

im sure he has just as fond memories of the ODI scene as he does tests. getting rid of one form is like blowing away half of his potential.

clarke IMO should be dropped and is nowhere near the captain ponting is and has been. people critisise pontings captaincy, and yet they are saying clarke is better. i dont get it

hussey is a way better captain then both of him, but face it he has been unlucky to miss his chance with age.
 
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Hussey a better captain then both of them? Your not serious are you.

I remember when Hussey took the reins when the team went to NZ in early 2007 to play the Chappell-Hadlee series. Ponting was off resting before the world cup. He basically got smashed in those games, with the kiwis from memory chasing down some pretty big totals.

We were running around like Headless chooks in the field - Hussey is a fine batsmen, but at international level i feel his personaility is to intense to be a good captain.

Ponting has had a good game at lords, for mine, he can be captain as long as he wants.
 
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I think it would be premature for him to retire from ODI's.The decision to retire from international T20 is one which I agree with. When I read the thread initally, my thoughts were that he is a champion cricketer and if he is good enough for Test then surely he is good enough for ODIs.

I cannot imagine that he would just have made the decision on the spur of the moment but would have consulted his wife and other members in his thinking.
 
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People forget that there is another T20 WC in the not to distant future, sometime next year. At that point the return Ashes series will be a significant focal point of our fixture list. Ponting will be able to get a decent period off during that time - its clear that the fixturing has decided this move IMO.

His thinking ahead, trying to give himself the best chance of success.
 
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LIONS then DAYLIGHT;364691 said:
Hussey a better captain then both of them? Your not serious are you.

I remember when Hussey took the reins when the team went to NZ in early 2007 to play the Chappell-Hadlee series. Ponting was off resting before the world cup. He basically got smashed in those games, with the kiwis from memory chasing down some pretty big totals.

We were running around like Headless chooks in the field - Hussey is a fine batsmen, but at international level i feel his personaility is to intense to be a good captain.

Ponting has had a good game at lords, for mine, he can be captain as long as he wants.
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i have absolutely nothing against pontings captaincy, he is one of australias finer captains.

those games hussey was captain of was just before the WC in that terrible period that australia had. australia lost against india and new zealand with all three captaining at some point, and all losing games.

husseys team was badly affected by injury and resting players. a couple were out of form.

and i remember clearly a press conference that ponting gave. after australia batting first in a number of games (with all captains captaining), made really good totals, some 300+, and all their totals were chased down in the second innings. ponting said the batting was obviously fine, just the bowling. he then said that to cure this he was going to bowl first if he won the toss. that way they knew what they were chasing.

then australia went on to win the world cup.

husseys time in captain was unfortunate, and after the tour games that he occasionally captains he has shown that he is a fine captain that devises good strategies.
 
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I disagree, Lee got injured during that series to NZ in a training session when he rolled his ankle during a fielding drill.

It wasn't a "terrible period", from memory we lost the VB series to England which amounted to losing 2 games. Then we lost against NZ, it was a wake up period. But we were hardly destroyed by injury.

Hussey took the reins and the team just seemed to lack a bit of composure. I don't think it was anything to do with on-field tactics, IMO, it never really is. Tactics are more luck then anything else, one move might work, the next it might not.

For example, Ponting brings Clarke on against India and he takes 3 wickets in an over and wins the game. Ponting brings on North against England and gets roasted by the Aus press. If North had taken that final wicket, which he was more then capable of doing - afterall he has 100+ FC wickets, then Ponting would be hailed as an absolute genius.

For mine onfield tactics are over-rated, im not faulting Hussey for that part of his game when he had the captainicy.

I just question whether his hyperactive personality was suited to captainicy.

When Ponting returned after that series the team just seemed a lot more calm and in control. There is no doubt in my mind that Ponting has a calming influence on the team in the dressing room.

Ponting is a fine captain, who has the unfortunate task of inheriting an all-time great team and then having to deal with that as the great players all leave and new rookies come in. Throw into the mix his batting at 3 and his fielding at slip and you have a player with a hell of a lot on his plate with 100% concentration required at all times.

Not many players in the history of the game have been able to combine that workload for such an extended period of time and do it at a decent level. Ponting could possibly captain this team for nearly 10 years by the end of his career, if so, it would be a truly remarkable performance from one of our greatest cricketer's of all time.

Hussey isn't in the same league as Ponting, neither is Clarke.
 
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LIONS then DAYLIGHT;364778 said:
I disagree, Lee got injured during that series to NZ in a training session when he rolled his ankle during a fielding drill.

It wasn't a "terrible period", from memory we lost the VB series to England which amounted to losing 2 games. Then we lost against NZ, it was a wake up period. But we were hardly destroyed by injury.

Hussey took the reins and the team just seemed to lack a bit of composure. I don't think it was anything to do with on-field tactics, IMO, it never really is. Tactics are more luck then anything else, one move might work, the next it might not.

For example, Ponting brings Clarke on against India and he takes 3 wickets in an over and wins the game. Ponting brings on North against England and gets roasted by the Aus press. If North had taken that final wicket, which he was more then capable of doing - afterall he has 100+ FC wickets, then Ponting would be hailed as an absolute genius.

For mine onfield tactics are over-rated, im not faulting Hussey for that part of his game when he had the captainicy.

I just question whether his hyperactive personality was suited to captainicy.

When Ponting returned after that series the team just seemed a lot more calm and in control. There is no doubt in my mind that Ponting has a calming influence on the team in the dressing room.

Ponting is a fine captain, who has the unfortunate task of inheriting an all-time great team and then having to deal with that as the great players all leave and new rookies come in. Throw into the mix his batting at 3 and his fielding at slip and you have a player with a hell of a lot on his plate with 100% concentration required at all times.

Not many players in the history of the game have been able to combine that workload for such an extended period of time and do it at a decent level. Ponting could possibly captain this team for nearly 10 years by the end of his career, if so, it would be a truly remarkable performance from one of our greatest cricketer's of all time.

Hussey isn't in the same league as Ponting, neither is Clarke.
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i agree almost completely. for the player he is, ponting is definitely a class above many captains worldwide. but as a captain only, and as i said i have nothing against his captaincy, i think hussey just ousts him. that is my opinion only and comes from very little evidence.
 
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I don't think Ponting should retire from either Test or ODI cricket any time soon. He is one of the greatest batsmen of all time and his win loss record in both forms of the game are among the best of any Australian captain.

And he showed in the 5th match against England that he is still one of the best batsmen in the world.

I think Ponting should be able to play up to the next Ahes series in England then he will probably retire from all cricket.

By the way can anyone please tell me who at the moment has the most Test and ODI runs of all time. where is Ponting on both lists?
 
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marty344;365439 said:
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By the way can anyone please tell me who at the moment has the most Test and ODI runs of all time. where is Ponting on both lists?
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Tendulkar is at the top of both lists.

Ponting is 3rd in terms of tests (http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/content/records/223646.html) and 4th in ODI, 30 odd runs behind Inzamam who holds 3rd place (Records | One-Day Internationals | Batting records | Most runs in career | Cricinfo.com).
 
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gbatman;364416 said:
Should Ponting retire from One Day Internationals? He's Just retired from Twenty/20's, we are winning without him, his form has been poor, Clarke is captaining well and he's only taking the place of a young cricketer.

I think he should give it away.

Besides he's old and his body surely must be struggling to hold up. His test form hasn't been great but it might improve if he gives ODI's away.

Thoughts?
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Not at this stage. As what he said on facebook he didn't want to retire from all forms of cricket as the team is still too young. Login | Facebook
 
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