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Re: Australia under fire for pushing Pawar
For those who haven't seen the incident, here are 2 videos.
Short version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjSJ3qoLJ8k
Long version (from a news channel with Hindi audio):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vvwTc1Lmv4&NR
Here is my personal take on the incident.
Ricky Ponting's fingure gesture demanding the trophy handover was juvenile and extremely rude. At least in the context of Indian culture, and I'm sure in any international context. Damien Martyn seemed like a very polite guy in previous media interviews. But his shove seems like an extrapolation, following in the footsteps of his captain.
At the same time, Sharad Pawar was being extremely slow and wasn't helping the matters. But that is how things are done in Indian culture. There was a huge cultural clash, and it was ugly.
I must have watched hundreds of Formula-1 podium ceremonies, Wimbledon/US Open/Australian Open/French Open tennis trophy presentations, too many other trophy presentations. Never before have I seen the presentee insult a presenter in such international events.
Ricky Ponting could learn a thing or two about manners, politeness, code of conduct, professionalism, charisma from people like Michael Schumacher, Roger Federer. It's not just about the individual sport talent, or even leadership talent to be able to lead the team. There are things which go above and beyond that. That extra class seperates guys like Ricky Ponting from those other guys like Schumacher or Federer.
For those who haven't seen the incident, here are 2 videos.
Short version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjSJ3qoLJ8k
Long version (from a news channel with Hindi audio):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vvwTc1Lmv4&NR
Here is my personal take on the incident.
Ricky Ponting's fingure gesture demanding the trophy handover was juvenile and extremely rude. At least in the context of Indian culture, and I'm sure in any international context. Damien Martyn seemed like a very polite guy in previous media interviews. But his shove seems like an extrapolation, following in the footsteps of his captain.
At the same time, Sharad Pawar was being extremely slow and wasn't helping the matters. But that is how things are done in Indian culture. There was a huge cultural clash, and it was ugly.
I must have watched hundreds of Formula-1 podium ceremonies, Wimbledon/US Open/Australian Open/French Open tennis trophy presentations, too many other trophy presentations. Never before have I seen the presentee insult a presenter in such international events.
Ricky Ponting could learn a thing or two about manners, politeness, code of conduct, professionalism, charisma from people like Michael Schumacher, Roger Federer. It's not just about the individual sport talent, or even leadership talent to be able to lead the team. There are things which go above and beyond that. That extra class seperates guys like Ricky Ponting from those other guys like Schumacher or Federer.
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Re: Australia under fire for pushing Pawar
Uncivilized Aussies
Manners and aussies ??
Are you day dreaming ??
Aussies are the most uncivilized people on earth and they know nothing about manners. They are hated in subcontinent and if you speak to any Srilankan in Berlin, Germany, you will find that the they insult the aussies with the remarks of :
Dirty Kangaroo
&
Dirty Kakadoo
Kakadoo is a park in Nazi Australia and this word of Kakadoo has now become an insulting word against the aussies.
Lebanese in Nazi Australia also hate the aussies but I dont know what is their hate word for the aussies.
Everybody hates the aussies.
Asians should withdraw from the ICC and form our own Asian cricket council.
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Chandu;111963 said:
Uncivilized Aussies
Manners and aussies ??
Are you day dreaming ??
Aussies are the most uncivilized people on earth and they know nothing about manners. They are hated in subcontinent and if you speak to any Srilankan in Berlin, Germany, you will find that the they insult the aussies with the remarks of :
Dirty Kangaroo
&
Dirty Kakadoo
Kakadoo is a park in Nazi Australia and this word of Kakadoo has now become an insulting word against the aussies.
Lebanese in Nazi Australia also hate the aussies but I dont know what is their hate word for the aussies.
Everybody hates the aussies.
Asians should withdraw from the ICC and form our own Asian cricket council.
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Re: Australia under fire for pushing Pawar
Sharad Pawar made a mistake
The blame for the this crisis goes to BCCI chairman, S Pawar also.
When uncivilized Kangaroo, Ricky Ponting pushed Pawar, why Pawar did not punch the Uncivilized Kangaroo ??
Later, Pawar said that "it was a trivial matter", which shows that he is a shamesless man. Uncivilized Kangaroo insulted Pawar and entire India and Pawar says, it is a trivial matter !!!!!!!!!!!
Ricky Ponting, the uncivilized Kangaroo should be banned from cricket for 2 years for showing his evil aussie culture.
Pawar of BCCI, should be sacked from BCCI for not reacting in time when the insult was being heaped upon him and upon entire India.
Chandu;111963 said:
Sharad Pawar made a mistake
The blame for the this crisis goes to BCCI chairman, S Pawar also.
When uncivilized Kangaroo, Ricky Ponting pushed Pawar, why Pawar did not punch the Uncivilized Kangaroo ??
Later, Pawar said that "it was a trivial matter", which shows that he is a shamesless man. Uncivilized Kangaroo insulted Pawar and entire India and Pawar says, it is a trivial matter !!!!!!!!!!!
Ricky Ponting, the uncivilized Kangaroo should be banned from cricket for 2 years for showing his evil aussie culture.
Pawar of BCCI, should be sacked from BCCI for not reacting in time when the insult was being heaped upon him and upon entire India.
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Re: Australia under fire for pushing Pawar
Listen, I don't want to get dragged down into broad generalizations and talk of racism. As a matter of fact, I hate Sharad Pawar as a person. And my dislike for Pawar goes back to more than 20 years.
Sharad Pawar is a greedy, corrupt crook, a ************** who would steal from the poor to build his mansions. I hate Pawar more than slimy dirt. But that's not the point.
The point is that on Sunday, Sharad Pawar was the representative for all of India. (However unfortunate that may be.) When he was pushed and shoved, it was not Sharad Pawar "the person" who was insulted. It was India and the representation of India which was insulted. This I take a huge objection too.
Not to mention that on same day Australia were accused of being classless thugs, unsportsmanlike by all of Ireland in another completely different sport. In the International Rules Football (hybrid code of Gaelic and Australian Football) test match between Ireland and Australia, an Australian player tackled Irish player to the ground viciously hurting neck, and further elbowed him while he was almost unconscious on the ground. This happened in some first 2 opening minutes of the test match in front of 82000 people at Croke Park, Dublin. This was the largest ever crowd assembled for a sport event in the history of Ireland. And the Australian referee didn't even issue a deserved red card to clamp down on trouble. He let further fights to continue and a couple of Irish players also did stupid fighting for minutes, in the heat of emotion. Do you think those Irish people would ever come back to watch contests involving Australia? All Irish newspapers and radio/TV have accused Australian tactics of thuggery and the Gaelic Athletic Association has threatened that they won't participate in these "international goodwill" contests with Australia anymore.
Combine that anger of Irish media with anger of TV/radio/newspaper/all India media towards Australian behavior. We have 2 completely different countries and cultures on earth accusing representatives of Australia of being unsportsmanlike on the same day.
A lot of damage was done to Australia's sportsmanship image on 2 different parts of the planet (Braborne Stadium in Mumbai,
India and Croke Park in Dublin, Ireland) even though they won 2 championship trophies.
Listen, I don't want to get dragged down into broad generalizations and talk of racism. As a matter of fact, I hate Sharad Pawar as a person. And my dislike for Pawar goes back to more than 20 years.
Sharad Pawar is a greedy, corrupt crook, a ************** who would steal from the poor to build his mansions. I hate Pawar more than slimy dirt. But that's not the point.
The point is that on Sunday, Sharad Pawar was the representative for all of India. (However unfortunate that may be.) When he was pushed and shoved, it was not Sharad Pawar "the person" who was insulted. It was India and the representation of India which was insulted. This I take a huge objection too.
Not to mention that on same day Australia were accused of being classless thugs, unsportsmanlike by all of Ireland in another completely different sport. In the International Rules Football (hybrid code of Gaelic and Australian Football) test match between Ireland and Australia, an Australian player tackled Irish player to the ground viciously hurting neck, and further elbowed him while he was almost unconscious on the ground. This happened in some first 2 opening minutes of the test match in front of 82000 people at Croke Park, Dublin. This was the largest ever crowd assembled for a sport event in the history of Ireland. And the Australian referee didn't even issue a deserved red card to clamp down on trouble. He let further fights to continue and a couple of Irish players also did stupid fighting for minutes, in the heat of emotion. Do you think those Irish people would ever come back to watch contests involving Australia? All Irish newspapers and radio/TV have accused Australian tactics of thuggery and the Gaelic Athletic Association has threatened that they won't participate in these "international goodwill" contests with Australia anymore.
Combine that anger of Irish media with anger of TV/radio/newspaper/all India media towards Australian behavior. We have 2 completely different countries and cultures on earth accusing representatives of Australia of being unsportsmanlike on the same day.
A lot of damage was done to Australia's sportsmanship image on 2 different parts of the planet (Braborne Stadium in Mumbai,
India and Croke Park in Dublin, Ireland) even though they won 2 championship trophies.
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Re: Australia under fire for pushing Pawar
This is exactly my point.
The criminal actions of uncivilized Kangaroos were less insulting to Pawar and more to India.
Do you have the link to the Kangaroo crisis in Ireland, where an uncivilized kangaroo once again showed his aussie culture ??
Chandu;112314 said:
This is exactly my point.
The criminal actions of uncivilized Kangaroos were less insulting to Pawar and more to India.
Do you have the link to the Kangaroo crisis in Ireland, where an uncivilized kangaroo once again showed his aussie culture ??
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Re: Australia under fire for pushing Pawar
It's all over the internet. Just do Google for "International Rules Football Ireland Australia" under Google news.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,20725124-11088,00.html
http://www.rte.ie/sport/2006/1106/internationalrules.html
http://www.rte.ie/sport/2006/1106/geraghtyg.html
It's all over the internet. Just do Google for "International Rules Football Ireland Australia" under Google news.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,20725124-11088,00.html
http://www.rte.ie/sport/2006/1106/internationalrules.html
http://www.rte.ie/sport/2006/1106/geraghtyg.html
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Re: Australia under fire for pushing Pawar
Damien Martyn has apologized...
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,20723610-23212,00.html
and nothing in the Australian press I've read stood for what Ponting and Martyn did.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,20723721-23212,00.html
I'm not going to fall for broad-ranging generalizations about all Australians. I'm fine about the apology offered and consider this matter closed. Cricket Australia needs to teach its players proper way to behave when they're officially representing their country.
About the crisis with Ireland in International Rules Football, it looks like Australia hasn't taken it seriously. They are brushing it aside as part of game. But Irish people have exactly opposite view. It looks like they will have an "international relations divorce" with Australia over this matter.
Another famous Australian sportsman Lleyton Hewitt is one of the most disliked bloke on the entire tennis circuit. And I know that many Australians don't like his arrogant, stupid playing style. One of the links I posted (written by an Australian) accuses Ricky Ponting to be following in Lleyton Hewitt's footsteps of arrogance. I still maintain that Ricky Ponting should examine some of Roger Federer's class off-field. Not Lleyton Hewitt's.
Robbie McEwen is a very good cycling sprinter from Australia, probably the best in the world. But he was not very well liked at all on the circuit for his arrogance and dirty tactics. He has cleaned up his act a bit, but has been in trouble for unsportsmanship before.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/sport...s-in-tour-clash/2005/07/05/1120329415989.html
Mark Webber, one of the only Australians in Formula-1 for a long time, is probably the nicest bloke on the entire Formula-1 circuit. But he never wins anything. Maybe because he isn't aggressive enough. Actually he also used to drive a crappy car.
When Socceroos, the Australian soccer team lost to Italy on a bogus penalty call in FIFA World Cup, I was very upset and thought Australia had been robbed. I haven't heard much about any unsportsmanlike issues with most of big-name Australian soccer players (Harry Kewell, Mark Viduka, Schwarzer...) - either when representing their country or in English Premiership. That's why I can't broadly categorize all of their sportspeople to be arrogant and unsportsmanship.
I think you're expected to win, win, win at all costs in Australian sport culture. And a lot of these Australian sportspeople who win a lot have natural aggression built into them. But they need to learn when they're projecting Australia's image to rest of the world, that other people remember them by their arrogance and rudeness. Not necessarily by the things they won.
Damien Martyn has apologized...
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,20723610-23212,00.html
and nothing in the Australian press I've read stood for what Ponting and Martyn did.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,20723721-23212,00.html
I'm not going to fall for broad-ranging generalizations about all Australians. I'm fine about the apology offered and consider this matter closed. Cricket Australia needs to teach its players proper way to behave when they're officially representing their country.
About the crisis with Ireland in International Rules Football, it looks like Australia hasn't taken it seriously. They are brushing it aside as part of game. But Irish people have exactly opposite view. It looks like they will have an "international relations divorce" with Australia over this matter.
Another famous Australian sportsman Lleyton Hewitt is one of the most disliked bloke on the entire tennis circuit. And I know that many Australians don't like his arrogant, stupid playing style. One of the links I posted (written by an Australian) accuses Ricky Ponting to be following in Lleyton Hewitt's footsteps of arrogance. I still maintain that Ricky Ponting should examine some of Roger Federer's class off-field. Not Lleyton Hewitt's.
Robbie McEwen is a very good cycling sprinter from Australia, probably the best in the world. But he was not very well liked at all on the circuit for his arrogance and dirty tactics. He has cleaned up his act a bit, but has been in trouble for unsportsmanship before.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/sport...s-in-tour-clash/2005/07/05/1120329415989.html
Mark Webber, one of the only Australians in Formula-1 for a long time, is probably the nicest bloke on the entire Formula-1 circuit. But he never wins anything. Maybe because he isn't aggressive enough. Actually he also used to drive a crappy car.
When Socceroos, the Australian soccer team lost to Italy on a bogus penalty call in FIFA World Cup, I was very upset and thought Australia had been robbed. I haven't heard much about any unsportsmanlike issues with most of big-name Australian soccer players (Harry Kewell, Mark Viduka, Schwarzer...) - either when representing their country or in English Premiership. That's why I can't broadly categorize all of their sportspeople to be arrogant and unsportsmanship.
I think you're expected to win, win, win at all costs in Australian sport culture. And a lot of these Australian sportspeople who win a lot have natural aggression built into them. But they need to learn when they're projecting Australia's image to rest of the world, that other people remember them by their arrogance and rudeness. Not necessarily by the things they won.
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Re: Australia under fire for pushing Pawar
Actually this latest story doesn't agree with the statement above that Damien Martyn has apologized.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/cricket/australians-totally-uncivilised/2006/11/08/1162661758061.html
Also, what's this?
Was this properly communicated by anybody to anyone? This sounds like a very bad communications snafu.
Actually this latest story doesn't agree with the statement above that Damien Martyn has apologized.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/cricket/australians-totally-uncivilised/2006/11/08/1162661758061.html
Also, what's this?
Was this properly communicated by anybody to anyone? This sounds like a very bad communications snafu.
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Re: Australia under fire for pushing Pawar
Indians in Germany are very very angry and they are all abusing the aussies. Srilankans hatred against the aussies is also renewed and they are talking about the mistreatment of muralidharan by the Cheating Umpire, Darryl Hair. Pakistanis hate the aussies already and we just dont like them.
We have saved and printed all anti aussie web links and we are sending them through internet to the entire german media so that they see the true face of the aussies and their uncivilized culture. Berlin, Germany has plenty of aussie journalists, restaurants and aussie shops and we are sending it to them also.
We also have plenty of aussie jokes and we are sending them to indians, srilankans and bangladeshis also.
Indians in Germany are very very angry and they are all abusing the aussies. Srilankans hatred against the aussies is also renewed and they are talking about the mistreatment of muralidharan by the Cheating Umpire, Darryl Hair. Pakistanis hate the aussies already and we just dont like them.
We have saved and printed all anti aussie web links and we are sending them through internet to the entire german media so that they see the true face of the aussies and their uncivilized culture. Berlin, Germany has plenty of aussie journalists, restaurants and aussie shops and we are sending it to them also.
We also have plenty of aussie jokes and we are sending them to indians, srilankans and bangladeshis also.
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Re: Australia under fire for pushing Pawar
I wonder if somebody kicks Damien martyn and then apologizes, would he accept it ??
Sometimes I think that the Indians have no self respect and they will accept an apology after a criminal act of a hooligan. Take a lesson from Shoaib Akhtar, who kicked Bob Woolmer in front of the players because in our Golden Pakistan we hate the English and consider them to be worse than animals. Woolmer opened his mouth at the wrong time and he rightly got English bashing for his act.
Would this happen in India ?? Certainly not.
If you want to take the revenge, boycott the aussie products, wherever you live.
Chandu;112355 said:
I wonder if somebody kicks Damien martyn and then apologizes, would he accept it ??
Sometimes I think that the Indians have no self respect and they will accept an apology after a criminal act of a hooligan. Take a lesson from Shoaib Akhtar, who kicked Bob Woolmer in front of the players because in our Golden Pakistan we hate the English and consider them to be worse than animals. Woolmer opened his mouth at the wrong time and he rightly got English bashing for his act.
Would this happen in India ?? Certainly not.
If you want to take the revenge, boycott the aussie products, wherever you live.
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Re: Australia under fire for pushing Pawar
It's not so simple in black and white (pardon the pun, but no racist overtones intended). There are already too many complicated political tussles between ICC and BCCI as it is. The last thing BCCI would want is to be seen as causing rift to open up in ICC over a "small" matter like this. BCCI's approach is more political, you're talking from a purely "emotional" mindset. (World War 1 needed a sparkle of some stupid and rather irrelevant event - murder of some low-profile diplomat - to blow up. BCCI doesn't want things to blow up over this event.)
Malcolm Speed who is an Australian on top of ICC was a buddy of Darrell Hair. Look what he could do to save his friend when BCCI threw their weight behind Pakistan's complaint. As it is, the Asians have secured a big win with Darrell Hair being thrown out. Maybe that's the reason why Ponting had been too upset and he behaved the way he did with Pawar.
I think Pawar and rest of BCCI guys thought this over. Since they're already happy about Hair's ouster, they didn't want to make this into an official issue. Maybe they're already busy plotting their next political maneuver.
Truthteller;112538 said:
It's not so simple in black and white (pardon the pun, but no racist overtones intended). There are already too many complicated political tussles between ICC and BCCI as it is. The last thing BCCI would want is to be seen as causing rift to open up in ICC over a "small" matter like this. BCCI's approach is more political, you're talking from a purely "emotional" mindset. (World War 1 needed a sparkle of some stupid and rather irrelevant event - murder of some low-profile diplomat - to blow up. BCCI doesn't want things to blow up over this event.)
Malcolm Speed who is an Australian on top of ICC was a buddy of Darrell Hair. Look what he could do to save his friend when BCCI threw their weight behind Pakistan's complaint. As it is, the Asians have secured a big win with Darrell Hair being thrown out. Maybe that's the reason why Ponting had been too upset and he behaved the way he did with Pawar.
I think Pawar and rest of BCCI guys thought this over. Since they're already happy about Hair's ouster, they didn't want to make this into an official issue. Maybe they're already busy plotting their next political maneuver.
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Re: Australia under fire for pushing Pawar
Moved to General Forum, would be interested in seeing the reactions of people on the forum
Personally when Ricky did the finger gesture it was inappropiate and rude, but Martyn giving him a friendly shove could be a little over the top but I was just thinking they were just wanting to celebrate.
Moved to General Forum, would be interested in seeing the reactions of people on the forum
Personally when Ricky did the finger gesture it was inappropiate and rude, but Martyn giving him a friendly shove could be a little over the top but I was just thinking they were just wanting to celebrate.
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Re: Australia under fire for pushing Pawar
Ricky Ponting has made an attempt to contact Indian board president Sharad Pawar to apologise for an incident during the ICC Champions Trophy presentation last Sunday.
Ponting and his team caused great unrest in India as Pawar appeared to be nudged away from the presentation podium as the Australians were presented with the trophy following their victory over West Indies.
The Australian captain admits the incident does not look good and is planning to speak to Pawar in order to apologise.
"I think the public have probably had an opportunity today to have a look at the incident," he said on Thursday.
"I hadn't seen it until this morning myself. It doesn't look great on television, but I think the more times you look at it, you probably realise that there's no intent to offend anybody."
Ponting feels the emotion of claiming the Champions Trophy for the first time had contributed to the Australians' exuberance
"We all probably got a little bit caught up in the excitement of the moment,"he added
"That's why i think it's so important for me to be in personal contact (with Pawar and if there is anything lingering on to get it sorted out as quickly as we can"
Ricky Ponting has made an attempt to contact Indian board president Sharad Pawar to apologise for an incident during the ICC Champions Trophy presentation last Sunday.
Ponting and his team caused great unrest in India as Pawar appeared to be nudged away from the presentation podium as the Australians were presented with the trophy following their victory over West Indies.
The Australian captain admits the incident does not look good and is planning to speak to Pawar in order to apologise.
"I think the public have probably had an opportunity today to have a look at the incident," he said on Thursday.
"I hadn't seen it until this morning myself. It doesn't look great on television, but I think the more times you look at it, you probably realise that there's no intent to offend anybody."
Ponting feels the emotion of claiming the Champions Trophy for the first time had contributed to the Australians' exuberance
"We all probably got a little bit caught up in the excitement of the moment,"he added
"That's why i think it's so important for me to be in personal contact (with Pawar and if there is anything lingering on to get it sorted out as quickly as we can"
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Re: Australia under fire for pushing Pawar
Let's close this matter now. I'm not interested in talking more about it.
Let's close this matter now. I'm not interested in talking more about it.
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Re: Australia under fire for pushing Pawar
You call it a small matter ?? India got insulted all over the world because of this crisis. It is no ordinary matter.
Darryl Hairs eviction from the test cricket is a good thing and now everything will be good. he was a very very evil and racist man and our legendary Imran Khan described him in a domestic URDU newspaper in our Golden Pakistan as, Hitler of Cricket. Malcom Speed is no different than Darryl Hair and he tried his best to save Hair from being sacked.
If Darryl Hair had accused our legendary Imran Khan of ball tampering, Imran would have beaten him up there and then and right in front of the watching public. Shoaib Akhtar did the same with Bob Woolmer in the coach in India and slapped his thick face in front of the other players.
Darryl Hair has given a very very very bad name to himself and to Australia. Australia has enough enemies already and everybody hates Australia in asia.
Now each time we see an aussie umpire officiating a match, we assume him to be a "Cheat Umpire".
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Chandu;112542 said:
You call it a small matter ?? India got insulted all over the world because of this crisis. It is no ordinary matter.
Darryl Hairs eviction from the test cricket is a good thing and now everything will be good. he was a very very evil and racist man and our legendary Imran Khan described him in a domestic URDU newspaper in our Golden Pakistan as, Hitler of Cricket. Malcom Speed is no different than Darryl Hair and he tried his best to save Hair from being sacked.
If Darryl Hair had accused our legendary Imran Khan of ball tampering, Imran would have beaten him up there and then and right in front of the watching public. Shoaib Akhtar did the same with Bob Woolmer in the coach in India and slapped his thick face in front of the other players.
Darryl Hair has given a very very very bad name to himself and to Australia. Australia has enough enemies already and everybody hates Australia in asia.
Now each time we see an aussie umpire officiating a match, we assume him to be a "Cheat Umpire".
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Re: Australia under fire for pushing Pawar
I simply dont believe it and the furious indians in Germany dont either.
We all believe that it was intentional and was intended to insult Pawar. There are plenty of Indians in Melbourne. Talk to some of them.
Guru™;112605 said:
I simply dont believe it and the furious indians in Germany dont either.
We all believe that it was intentional and was intended to insult Pawar. There are plenty of Indians in Melbourne. Talk to some of them.
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Re: Ponting makes peace with Pawar
It is too late now. Damage is done and hatred against the aussies in India has grown considerably. Australia has one more enemy now in Asia.
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It is too late now. Damage is done and hatred against the aussies in India has grown considerably. Australia has one more enemy now in Asia.
Re: Ponting makes peace with Pawar
This has descended into nothing more than a flame war against certain countries and their people. I shouldn't have to delete numerous posts from this thread and I will re-iterate that racist remarks against countries are not allowed on this forum and will not be tolerated.
If you're going to debate a topic, please do so without resorting to racial abuse against countries and their people otherwise you will recieve a little holiday from the site.
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This has descended into nothing more than a flame war against certain countries and their people. I shouldn't have to delete numerous posts from this thread and I will re-iterate that racist remarks against countries are not allowed on this forum and will not be tolerated.
If you're going to debate a topic, please do so without resorting to racial abuse against countries and their people otherwise you will recieve a little holiday from the site.
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