BARCLAY SHIELD 2022/23

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Areas said:
No thanks.

These blokes arent getting paid.

I would allow for at the most, two sundays a season, no more. You proposal would have at least 5 sundays. Cant see it being well recieved
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I'm sure most in Barclay are on some sort of incentive scheme and are in fact getting $$$$
 
1 Sunday game with the option of playing an additional 1 if an earlier round gets washed out etc. Can't have local cricketers playing both days of the weekend 5 times, that is insanity and would never work.

Overall the DV fixturing is not a fair reflection of the true end of season ladder until you have 8 team divisions with 14 rounds (7 x 2-dayers & 7 x 1-dayers). Play each other twice home and away. It's pretty simple and I'm sure most clubs would be happy with that arrangement given it's a reasonably level playing field for all involved.

Until the DV adopt that format, the ladder is always going to be questionable. Currently, the teams that finish 3rd/4th usually more often than not, are being blessed to play a bottom team twice or get an outright where other teams around them usually don't get those opportunities.

This format also provides an extra weekend for a 3 weeks finals system and gives the top 2 for each of the 3 shield grades the potential to have a double chance. Surely all the hard work to finish top 2 should come with that additional benefit.

This will also provide the rest of the comp from B grade down to keep the current 2 week finals system, so they get to watch the 3 Shield GFs at seasons end, creating huge crowds and a great atmosphere.
 
Beamer83 said:
1 Sunday game with the option of playing an additional 1 if an earlier round gets washed out etc. Can't have local cricketers playing both days of the weekend 5 times, that is insanity and would never work.

Overall the DV fixturing is not a fair reflection of the true end of season ladder until you have 8 team divisions with 14 rounds (7 x 2-dayers & 7 x 1-dayers). Play each other twice home and away. It's pretty simple and I'm sure most clubs would be happy with that arrangement given it's a reasonably level playing field for all involved.

Until the DV adopt that format, the ladder is always going to be questionable. Currently, the teams that finish 3rd/4th usually more often than not, are being blessed to play a bottom team twice or get an outright where other teams around them usually don't get those opportunities.

This format also provides an extra weekend for a 3 weeks finals system and gives the top 2 for each of the 3 shield grades the potential to have a double chance. Surely all the hard work to finish top 2 should come with that additional benefit.

This will also provide the rest of the comp from B grade down to keep the current 2 week finals system, so they get to watch the 3 Shield GFs at seasons end, creating huge crowds and a great atmosphere.
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Absolutely Correct...... Couldn't agree more with the above the sooner we get this model in place the better and a better comp we will be for it that is the NMCA format in a normal year and it seems to work for them ok
 
Beamer83 said:
1 Sunday game with the option of playing an additional 1 if an earlier round gets washed out etc. Can't have local cricketers playing both days of the weekend 5 times, that is insanity and would never work.

Overall the DV fixturing is not a fair reflection of the true end of season ladder until you have 8 team divisions with 14 rounds (7 x 2-dayers & 7 x 1-dayers). Play each other twice home and away. It's pretty simple and I'm sure most clubs would be happy with that arrangement given it's a reasonably level playing field for all involved.

Until the DV adopt that format, the ladder is always going to be questionable. Currently, the teams that finish 3rd/4th usually more often than not, are being blessed to play a bottom team twice or get an outright where other teams around them usually don't get those opportunities.

This format also provides an extra weekend for a 3 weeks finals system and gives the top 2 for each of the 3 shield grades the potential to have a double chance. Surely all the hard work to finish top 2 should come with that additional benefit.

This will also provide the rest of the comp from B grade down to keep the current 2 week finals system, so they get to watch the 3 Shield GFs at seasons end, creating huge crowds and a great atmosphere.
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Brilliant. As mentioned, I’m sure clubs wouldn’t mind giving up a Sunday to make sure the draw is fair and even.
 
Beamer83 said:
1 Sunday game with the option of playing an additional 1 if an earlier round gets washed out etc. Can't have local cricketers playing both days of the weekend 5 times, that is insanity and would never work.

Overall the DV fixturing is not a fair reflection of the true end of season ladder until you have 8 team divisions with 14 rounds (7 x 2-dayers & 7 x 1-dayers). Play each other twice home and away. It's pretty simple and I'm sure most clubs would be happy with that arrangement given it's a reasonably level playing field for all involved.

Until the DV adopt that format, the ladder is always going to be questionable. Currently, the teams that finish 3rd/4th usually more often than not, are being blessed to play a bottom team twice or get an outright where other teams around them usually don't get those opportunities.

This format also provides an extra weekend for a 3 weeks finals system and gives the top 2 for each of the 3 shield grades the potential to have a double chance. Surely all the hard work to finish top 2 should come with that additional benefit.

This will also provide the rest of the comp from B grade down to keep the current 2 week finals system, so they get to watch the 3 Shield GFs at seasons end, creating huge crowds and a great atmosphere.
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Great post but the overarching issue is the 8 team divisions. Currently 28 clubs which is literally the worst number as its too many for 3 divisions and not enough for 4.

How sustainable are all clubs? Is it worth some clubs entering their first 11 into B grade? Im not sure, but couldnt agree more on the 8 teams in the grades.

Would be worth taking stock in the winter with a look to implemeting this asap
 
Areas said:
Great post but the overarching issue is the 8 team divisions. Currently 28 clubs which is literally the worst number as its too many for 3 divisions and not enough for 4.

How sustainable are all clubs? Is it worth some clubs entering their first 11 into B grade? I'm not sure, but couldn't agree more on the 8 teams in the grades.

Would be worth taking stock in the winter with a look to implementing this asap
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Maybe if the DV exec weren't so picky and accepted all the big/competitive clubs that have tried to apply in the last 5 years, we would have the 30+ teams to work with and could of made it happen.

Big regrets I bet now, especially after the recent demise of Paradians and Whittlesea.

What type of organization would stop competition growth and not take on all big/competitive clubs that try to join. To do that in the business world is the definition of insanity.
 
Beamer83 said:
1 Sunday game with the option of playing an additional 1 if an earlier round gets washed out etc. Can't have local cricketers playing both days of the weekend 5 times, that is insanity and would never work.

Overall the DV fixturing is not a fair reflection of the true end of season ladder until you have 8 team divisions with 14 rounds (7 x 2-dayers & 7 x 1-dayers). Play each other twice home and away. It's pretty simple and I'm sure most clubs would be happy with that arrangement given it's a reasonably level playing field for all involved.

Until the DV adopt that format, the ladder is always going to be questionable. Currently, the teams that finish 3rd/4th usually more often than not, are being blessed to play a bottom team twice or get an outright where other teams around them usually don't get those opportunities.

This format also provides an extra weekend for a 3 weeks finals system and gives the top 2 for each of the 3 shield grades the potential to have a double chance. Surely all the hard work to finish top 2 should come with that additional benefit.

This will also provide the rest of the comp from B grade down to keep the current 2 week finals system, so they get to watch the 3 Shield GFs at seasons end, creating huge crowds and a great atmosphere.
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Whilst you're at it might as well rename it the NMCA
 
Beamer83 said:
Maybe if the DV exec weren't so picky and accepted all the big/competitive clubs that have tried to apply in the last 5 years, we would have the 30+ teams to work with and could of made it happen.

Big regrets I bet now, especially after the recent demise of Paradians and Whittlesea.

What type of organization would stop competition growth and not take on all big/competitive clubs that try to join. To do that in the business world is the definition of insanity.
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Great earlier post, nailed the ideal format IMO.

How many big/competitive clubs have been knocked back? Rivergum?... Can't actually think of many other NMCA clubs that fit that bill.
 
Artie Bucco said:
Great earlier post, nailed the ideal format IMO.

How many big/competitive clubs have been knocked back? Rivergum?... Can't actually think of many other NMCA clubs that fit that bill.
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I believe Holy Trinity & Rivergum were both knocked back the same season Rosebank came across.
We keep hearing about the shit standard of Nmca cricket yet the majority that make the move seem to hold there own amongst our Elite above average competition.
 
Yes No! Sorry said:
I believe Holy Trinity & Rivergum were both knocked back the same season Rosebank came across.
We keep hearing about the shit standard of Nmca cricket yet the majority that make the move seem to hold there own amongst our Elite above average competition.
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Did holy Trinity ever beat Rosebank or Rivergum, can't recall them winning a flag. Rosebank seem to be middling in Barclay, more of a one day team it looks like. BP in MS. Not exactly a great example for how well all the NMCA so called powerhouses would go. All these NMCA blokes spending time on DVCA threads, no one gives a shit about NMCA over here.
 
Artie Bucco said:
Did holy Trinity ever beat Rosebank or Rivergum, can't recall them winning a flag. Rosebank seem to be middling in Barclay, more of a one day team it looks like. BP in MS. Not exactly a great example for how well all the NMCA so called powerhouses would go. All these NMCA blokes spending time on DVCA threads, no one gives a shit about NMCA over here.
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Let's get serious Artie , we got a walking corpse (Tony tenuta) peeling off 80odd in our top flight elite competition so how good are we actually going.
 
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