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I had a strange umpiring decision in our cup game on Friday evening. The ball was hit and the non-striker ran to the strikers end. The striker did not leave his crease and it ended up that both batsmen were in the strikers end. The ball was thrown in and the bails were taken off at the strikers end. Who is therefore run out??

I will let you know what the outcome was after I hear what others think first.
 
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Batsmen were both in the crease and the bails were taken off at that end, neither of them are out.
 
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Do you mean that the bails were taken off at the non strikers end ? If so, then the non striker is out, as the batsman on strike got back into his crease. If you do in fact mean the strikers end, then neither batsmen are out, as the bails would have to be taken off the non-strikers end for one of the batsmen to be run out.
 
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I assume you mean that the bails were taken off at the non-strikers end - since that is the ground that was empty? In this instance, the non-striker should be out, if, as you say, the striker was in his ground when the non-striker reached it and didn't subsequently leave.

See law 29.2 -
2. Which is a batsman's ground
(a) If only one batsman is within a ground
(i) it is his ground.
(ii) it remains his ground even if he is later joined there by the other batsman.

(If the bails were off at the strikers end then no-one is out.)
 
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Indeed, if the bails were taken off at the non strikers end, then the non striker is certainly out - no question.
 
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Slass;26911 said:
No the bails were taken off at the strikers end. NOT the non-strikers end.
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Then neither of them are out. Since when have batsmen who are in the crease been given run out.
 
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What happened in your game Slass?

Video of Chanderpaul/Morton run-out. Not what happened in your game, but funny nonetheless!
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36SLpqAymTE"]YouTube - Bizarre Runout[/ame]
 
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After a lengthy discussion between the two (neutral) umpires it was decided that the non-striker was out. This was a bit of a suprise to me! It would hve been easier if we had done what the New Zealanders did on edladd's video.

It also worked in our favour as the guy run out was a Kiwi who had in previous weeks hit 150 and 200, remember this is only a 20 over match! Anyway we won and are now in the final to defend our trophy.
 
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lol i dont know why they wouldnt have thrown the ball to the other
end anyway...

oh and congratulations on making the final
 
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That's a strange decision alright, pretty poor umpiring! Still, you get bad decisions in cricket all the time, I suppose you have to take your luck when one goes your way and accept it sometimes when it doesn't. Congrats on the win, and good luck in the final.
 
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Cheers for the luck edladd and Jack.

Even though it was a suprise decision I wouldn't like to say it was a bad decision until I know that it wasn't the right decision. So far everyone are saying what they think is right. I would like to know exactly the theory behind it all. The thing that makes it more dificult is that the batsman given out had made it to the crease so wasn't short of his ground apart from the fact the other batsman hadn't left his crease. All this thinking is making my head hurt!
 
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The thoery behind it all is that how the hell can it be given out, when not one but two batsmen were in the crease at the end where the bails were taken off?
 
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True, the only way ANYONE can be run out is if the bails are taken off at an empty ground. Taking the bails off at an occupied ground is just pointless.
 
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No one should have been given out. One batsman was in the opposite crease but he was still technically out of his crease, so to run him out the bails should have been taken off at the non-strikers end. The strikers end was already occupied by the striker so its impossible to run any one out at that end.
Why did they not try to run him out at the other end? He couldn't have reached there by time.
 
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I'm still looking for a reasonable explanation to this. From other posts in the forum you don't seem like an idiot :)p) but I see no logic to this at all.
 
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This was my reason for posting! I also wan to see the logic behind the decision. I was hoping that someone on here would shed some light on it. It seems that everyone is agreeing that it should be given not out unless the other stumps were broken.

Oh and thanks for saying that I don't 'seem' like an idoit!:thumbup1:
 
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It can happen if the umpires are put under pressure and/or are not too experienced. I'm sure when they think of it again they'll realise their mistake because there was no logic behind the decision.
 
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