Be The Umpire
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edladd
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I've another umpire-y question, I'll put it here to save creating another topic:
If a keeper throws off his glove to field a ball near the wicket ... and then the ball hits the glove on the ground - is that 5 penalty runs? As I understand the law, it should be, but has anyone ever seen it happen?
I've another umpire-y question, I'll put it here to save creating another topic:
If a keeper throws off his glove to field a ball near the wicket ... and then the ball hits the glove on the ground - is that 5 penalty runs? As I understand the law, it should be, but has anyone ever seen it happen?
Jelly Beanz
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Hmm, I've never seen it happen but surely it would be the same as if someone's cap fell off chasing a ball and the ball then hit it?? It would be pretty harsh to give 5 penalty runs for that...
Hmm, I've never seen it happen but surely it would be the same as if someone's cap fell off chasing a ball and the ball then hit it?? It would be pretty harsh to give 5 penalty runs for that...
edladd
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If a players hat falls off and the ball hits it, then there are no penalty runs. However, if he takes it off, and the ball hits it, even if he didn't intend it to, then there are 5 penalty runs.
It strikes me as a bit dangerous when you see keepers doing it, as it invariably lands somewhere near the stumps, and there's a chance he'll be having a shy at it. As far as I'm aware, the same rules would apply, but I've never heard of it happening.
If a players hat falls off and the ball hits it, then there are no penalty runs. However, if he takes it off, and the ball hits it, even if he didn't intend it to, then there are 5 penalty runs.
It strikes me as a bit dangerous when you see keepers doing it, as it invariably lands somewhere near the stumps, and there's a chance he'll be having a shy at it. As far as I'm aware, the same rules would apply, but I've never heard of it happening.
Stumped
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edd lad, i see what your saying but not sure how it would happen? as a keeper i only throw my glove off when chasing a ball ! never thrown a glove at a ball lol
one of my slips misfielded a ball on saturday hit his shin and shot back onto my helmet! never mind. 5 runs gone!
edd lad, i see what your saying but not sure how it would happen? as a keeper i only throw my glove off when chasing a ball ! never thrown a glove at a ball lol
one of my slips misfielded a ball on saturday hit his shin and shot back onto my helmet! never mind. 5 runs gone!
Jelly Beanz
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That would be gutting, especially if it was catchable. Do penalty runs count against the bowler or are they fielding extras??
That would be gutting, especially if it was catchable. Do penalty runs count against the bowler or are they fielding extras??
edladd
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The square leg umpire can advise the other guy that it's above waist height, but the bowlers end umpire has to call it.
With regard to the height thing, in the laws of cricket, a full toss above waist height is only called when it is fast, and above shoulder height regardless of speed. But in most club competitions they will change that to be a no-ball above the waist regardless of speed.
I'm surprised at it being called to a batsman walking down the crease though, unless the umpire thought it would have still passed above waist height if it went on to reach the crease?
The square leg umpire can advise the other guy that it's above waist height, but the bowlers end umpire has to call it.
With regard to the height thing, in the laws of cricket, a full toss above waist height is only called when it is fast, and above shoulder height regardless of speed. But in most club competitions they will change that to be a no-ball above the waist regardless of speed.
I'm surprised at it being called to a batsman walking down the crease though, unless the umpire thought it would have still passed above waist height if it went on to reach the crease?
Jelly Beanz
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Yeah I'm surprised by that as well Ed. I always thought the square leg ump had to call it but I guess I've been wrong.
Thanks for clearing that up, wolf.
Yeah I'm surprised by that as well Ed. I always thought the square leg ump had to call it but I guess I've been wrong.
Thanks for clearing that up, wolf.
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had to reply to the last questions on this topic - i know it was written a few months back - but i'll add to it.
The no-ball call for waist high full toss (or beamers) is only called if the batsman is in a normal standing position (ie. if he was batting roughly on or around the crease). If he is half way down the deck it won't (shouldn't be) called a no-ball.
For a spinner it is ABOVE the shoulder and for the faster bowlers it is ABOVE the waist. Regardless of whether it is dangerous or not. And it is only the bowlers end umpire who can call it.
had to reply to the last questions on this topic - i know it was written a few months back - but i'll add to it.
The no-ball call for waist high full toss (or beamers) is only called if the batsman is in a normal standing position (ie. if he was batting roughly on or around the crease). If he is half way down the deck it won't (shouldn't be) called a no-ball.
For a spinner it is ABOVE the shoulder and for the faster bowlers it is ABOVE the waist. Regardless of whether it is dangerous or not. And it is only the bowlers end umpire who can call it.