Castlemaine and District Cricket Association

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thehoff;306536 said:
country week is a great thing. it gives local players (especially the kids) a chance to play at a higher level and improve their cricket. .

The kids??????? You have to be kidding. Judging from the results I see posted each year for the last few the majority of the players have been 30+.
 
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Outswinger;306543 said:
This is the ultimate week of cricket for cricketers in country cricket. To test themselves against the best cricketers in other leagues.

Your kind of backward thinking is what is holding back the CDCA from becoming a professional and well respected league. Need to think further ahead and not about how things were done in the past.

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The ultimate week for country cricketers is grand final week for their own club and to say that country week is about the best players is a joke. In years gone by Castlemaine's team would be lucky to contain 3 of the best players and I bet that hasn't changed. I can remember blokes being grabbed who had just gone along to watch. I have nothing against people playing country week cricket, good luck to them, I just think if you want to play you should pay your own way.

And I guarantee you that the thing holding the CDCA back is the same thing now as it has been for years. The only blokes who put their hands up for office do so out of an interest in promoting their club and making sure they get the best deal from the executive.

Just reading back through this thread the same issues are there:

Teams getting 12 points for doing nothing because the draw is uneven.

Playing games on Sundays.

The relegation/promotion system being manipulated.

Teams hiding behind washouts.

A grade cricket not being on turf.

I also notice the CDCA is about the only cricket comp in Aus not playing 20/20 games. I hear they tried to get it going, but were shot down by the usual suspects.

It is a pity that everyone in the CDCA couldn't switch comps for a season, because when you do you find out what happens in a comp with good operators in charge and a progressive administration supported by the clubs.

Although a mate of mine involved in the comp tells me that very thing may happen to the best club in the comp next year and maybe one other one?
 
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keepinemhonest;307205 said:
The ultimate week for country cricketers is grand final week for their own club and to say that country week is about the best players is a joke. In years gone by Castlemaine's team would be lucky to contain 3 of the best players and I bet that hasn't changed. I can remember blokes being grabbed who had just gone along to watch. I have nothing against people playing country week cricket, good luck to them, I just think if you want to play you should pay your own way.

And I guarantee you that the thing holding the CDCA back is the same thing now as it has been for years. The only blokes who put their hands up for office do so out of an interest in promoting their club and making sure they get the best deal from the executive.

Just reading back through this thread the same issues are there:

Teams getting 12 points for doing nothing because the draw is uneven.

Playing games on Sundays.

The relegation/promotion system being manipulated.

Teams hiding behind washouts.

A grade cricket not being on turf.

I also notice the CDCA is about the only cricket comp in Aus not playing 20/20 games. I hear they tried to get it going, but were shot down by the usual suspects.

It is a pity that everyone in the CDCA couldn't switch comps for a season, because when you do you find out what happens in a comp with good operators in charge and a progressive administration supported by the clubs.

Although a mate of mine involved in the comp tells me that very thing may happen to the best club in the comp next year and maybe one other one?

If players had to pay their own way in Country Week no one would play. I do not think you are getting the message at all. Players have to give up their weeks wages or give up holidays to play. They should not pay at all.
Other leagues playing in Comps get Shirts, Hats, Warm Up Gear, Accommodation and Bus Travel for nothing. Castlemaine League geiving players who have earned their representative position deserve lunch each day, a shirt and hat. There is no accommodation or bus fees.

Representing the league is the highest honour an individual can achieve and ALL players should be trying to play at the best level. The standard of Country Week is higher than the club level is.

Players in last years Grand Final side: Brenton Jones, Jamie Allan, Leon Reidy, Steve Becker, Clint Alridge, Lachlan Ford, Darren Hinck and Jarrod Milsom are all players who would be in the top 10-15 in the league so your information is wrong there.

I would agree one of the main things holding back the league is one club in the league having too many people involved in League's committee. Their approach of "participation" is more important than the bettering of the league by playing 2020 and one day cricket is why the league will not reach the standards of a Ballarat or Bendigo league. Bendigo's version of 2020 being played on Tuesday nights is the best solution to introducing 2020 to the competition.

So who is the best club leaving???

Also saying that players only play Country Week to stroke their own egos is a ridiculous comment. Guys that are listed above are genuinely very good cricketers who could all play Bendigo A grade. If you are so against why dont you have a go yourself and play in the rep team or put your hand up to be on the league committee and try and improve the comp instead of bagging those that want to make it better.
 
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flat backer;306962 said:
where are you JANDO your players continue to leave ????

tim hobbs has quit and moved to BRIDGEWATER

I hear on the grapevine Andrew Hewitt and Cam Parker cleared and now playing with the red hats

As for you keepemhonest or is it howstupidareyou Country week is an honour and anyone has played would agree. $ 5 for lunch, a hat and a shirt is the least the cdca can offer.
One premiership and 5 runners up, not to mention a divsion 2 and division 3 flag to get the association back with the big boys.
It is the best experience and the best cricket to play in.
if we are concerned by small incentives then our league would have serious problems.

thats right jando where have u gone? u have really gone quite since the wheels have fallen off the sooky colts! is it any coincidence that since u have taken over as coach this year, at least half a dozen players have left the club???
 
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thehoff;307556 said:
thats right jando where have u gone? u have really gone quite since the wheels have fallen off the sooky colts! is it any coincidence that since u have taken over as coach this year, at least half a dozen players have left the club???

Yes players are leaving and more to come at seasons end.

Great to see the cricket back on. Muckleford have put themselves in a great position agt the Goats.

Creek should be able to run through Castlemaine and start their downhill slide.

Newstead should win easily agt Kyneton.

And Nth have the weekend off after an amazing result in one day.
 
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Outswinger;307953 said:
Yes players are leaving and more to come at seasons end.

Great to see the cricket back on. Muckleford have put themselves in a great position agt the Goats.

Creek should be able to run through Castlemaine and start their downhill slide.

Newstead should win easily agt Kyneton.

And Nth have the weekend off after an amazing result in one day.

i here there was a dec. by the captain even tho he was in the 80s. good to see a captain put himself before the team, unlike what aldridge did when he had the same choice against the berries. i hope that doesn't come back to bite him!!! i think i wrote the dirty redhats off to early. who has been performing well for them?? coz at the start of the year, i didn't think they would be much.
 
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Yeah he declared on 88*. And yep, you are right. Exactly the opposite to the game before where Aldridge stuffed it up going for his 100.
 
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thehoff;308031 said:
i here there was a dec. by the captain even tho he was in the 80s. good to see a captain put himself before the team, unlike what aldridge did when he had the same choice against the berries. i hope that doesn't come back to bite him!!! i think i wrote the dirty redhats off to early. who has been performing well for them?? coz at the start of the year, i didn't think they would be much.

I think you meant that he put his team before himself...

Looking through the stats Matt Giri has been a very good contributor with bat and ball. He has been supported by different players in different games.

Jamie Allan looks like he is coming into form at the right time of the year and there are some players to come back from injuries.

Also Andrew Hewitt's presence at the weekend gave the club a massive boost by taking 11 wickets.

It also appears the club has taken on a youth policy and is playing a lot of young players. Jenkins, Filo, Cross, McLean are all teenagers.
 
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Outswinger;308403 said:
I think you meant that he put his team before himself...

Looking through the stats Matt Giri has been a very good contributor with bat and ball. He has been supported by different players in different games.

Jamie Allan looks like he is coming into form at the right time of the year and there are some players to come back from injuries.

Also Andrew Hewitt's presence at the weekend gave the club a massive boost by taking 11 wickets.

It also appears the club has taken on a youth policy and is playing a lot of young players. Jenkins, Filo, Cross, McLean are all teenagers.

i did mean he put the team b4 himself. do u think castlemaine have the minerals to win it, or will they fall away? will the kids stand up in the finals for the redhats? and if they don't who is waiting in the wings to step up?
 
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thehoff;308451 said:
i did mean he put the team b4 himself. do u think castlemaine have the minerals to win it, or will they fall away? will the kids stand up in the finals for the redhats? and if they don't who is waiting in the wings to step up?

You would have to say that Castlemaine are in a brilliant position to get a home semi and thats got to be a major advantage.

I am sure the Redhats will be happy to just play finals cricket from where they were last year.

Barkers Creek are a team that will be tough to beat. It is open for a few teams but Castlemaine are certainly the favourites with the position they sit in at the moment.
 
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gday fellas pleasure to join in,
looking over the general chit chat that has occurred in here i noticed that country week has stirred up a few emotions. having a look at a few teams that have been posted, i was appauled at the sight of a few names that came up to represent the league. names like mckimmie, watson, sobey, milsom etc horrified me to think people see these guys as the leading cricketers in the league. lets be serious here, has the cdca been religated to div 4 for these guys to be picked?
i find it a little humourous that every year it seems to be the same old faces popping up in the squad regardless of the performances during the year. Shall we rename our country week team to the 'redhats'? they havent looked anything like the team they were when flip oliver was leading them but the majority of there team gets a go in our 'rep' team. what a joke.
Any thoughts?
 
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GladstoneSmall;309834 said:
gday fellas pleasure to join in,
looking over the general chit chat that has occurred in here i noticed that country week has stirred up a few emotions. having a look at a few teams that have been posted, i was appauled at the sight of a few names that came up to represent the league. names like mckimmie, watson, sobey, milsom etc horrified me to think people see these guys as the leading cricketers in the league. lets be serious here, has the cdca been religated to div 4 for these guys to be picked?
i find it a little humourous that every year it seems to be the same old faces popping up in the squad regardless of the performances during the year. Shall we rename our country week team to the 'redhats'? they havent looked anything like the team they were when flip oliver was leading them but the majority of there team gets a go in our 'rep' team. what a joke.
Any thoughts?

welcome to the party gladstone! yes i agree a few names being 'thrown' around are laughable! sobey is nothing but a slapper, and milsom has taken a 'massive' 4 wickets this year. i think he would be about the 7th bowler in line from the redhats to get a run in country week.
 
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GladstoneSmall;309834 said:
gday fellas pleasure to join in,
looking over the general chit chat that has occurred in here i noticed that country week has stirred up a few emotions. having a look at a few teams that have been posted, i was appauled at the sight of a few names that came up to represent the league. names like mckimmie, watson, sobey, milsom etc horrified me to think people see these guys as the leading cricketers in the league. lets be serious here, has the cdca been religated to div 4 for these guys to be picked?
i find it a little humourous that every year it seems to be the same old faces popping up in the squad regardless of the performances during the year. Shall we rename our country week team to the 'redhats'? they havent looked anything like the team they were when flip oliver was leading them but the majority of there team gets a go in our 'rep' team. what a joke.
Any thoughts?

Redhats are currently sitting second on the ladder Gladstone and playing very well so I am not sure how you could say that they are not as good as side as when Flip was leading them.
Lenny Watson is second on the leading wicket taking list so has earned his spot. Milsom fractured his arm in Round 4 and was the leading wicket taker in last years Country Week competition. Sobey is built for one day which Country Week is.
Some players muct be picked due to their great experience and ability to step up at the next level and the three above have done that and will continue to do it.

Why dont you stick your neck out if you have one Gladstone and select your best squad.
 
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Outswinger;310147 said:
Redhats are currently sitting second on the ladder Gladstone and playing very well so I am not sure how you could say that they are not as good as side as when Flip was leading them.
Lenny Watson is second on the leading wicket taking list so has earned his spot. Milsom fractured his arm in Round 4 and was the leading wicket taker in last years Country Week competition. Sobey is built for one day which Country Week is.
Some players muct be picked due to their great experience and ability to step up at the next level and the three above have done that and will continue to do it.

Why dont you stick your neck out if you have one Gladstone and select your best squad.

firstly a quick thanks to the hoff for his welcome. secondly outswinger, you have challenged me to select a squad for country week. glancing over your rabble, there would be 7 blokes who wouldnt even be considered in my team. let me run through them, sobey, built for one day cricket? get your hand off it! lach ford has been pre occupied to worry about cricket, allan hasnt looked like making a run this year, brindley is struggling in the worst team to take the field in any form of cricket, "chalky bones" milsom must still be livin off last years country week cause he hasnt troubled the worst of batsmen in the league with a pathetic 4 wkts, rhys ford cant catch the ball, and christmas wouldnt know which end of the bat hes holding.
unlike you outswinger i think rep teams should be picked on form and not reputation, like any sport should be. but maybe you think otherwise coz your getting a free ride in your team? correct?
Any thoughts ladies and gents?
 
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by the way my team would be,
giri, stubbings, aldridge, oliver, cole, mercuri, fraser, cuinik, chambers, pedretti and mack.
 
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GladstoneSmall;310759 said:
by the way my team would be,
giri, stubbings, aldridge, oliver, cole, mercuri, fraser, cuinik, chambers, pedretti and mack.

fair team 'g-train'. not bad, but i think i can go 1 better. giri, stubbings, oliver, mercuri, fraser, cuinik, t.c chambers, mack, beith, envall, and even tho he has a stick up his arse dan xmas. beat that side!
 
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thehoff;310798 said:
fair team 'g-train'. not bad, but i think i can go 1 better. giri, stubbings, oliver, mercuri, fraser, cuinik, t.c chambers, mack, beith, envall, and even tho he has a stick up his arse dan xmas. beat that side!

Well Hoff and Gladstone you have both proven you have not got a clue what you are talking about.

Envall would be one of the worst cricketers in A grade for a start. I have heard a nasty rumour he is playing though. But he is ordinary to say the least.

Brett Cole has very limited skills he is not good enough either, that makes me laugh a lot.

Mack another unbelievable selection. What are you thinking???

Chambers can bowl fast but his length is questionable and gets carried away. He also has a very suspect action and would more than likely get reported for his bent arm with two officials umpiring the match.
 
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Just going by the stats from my cricket:

Brett Cole
BATTING
INNINGS 8
RUNS 184
HIGHEST SCORE 72
AVERAGE 23.0
BOWLING
OVERS 39.2
MAIDENS 12
WICKETS 11
RUNS 125
BEST BOWLING 4-36
AVERAGE 11.4
STRIKE RATE 21.5
ECONOMY RATE 3.2

Troy Chambers:
MATCHES 7
BATTING
INNINGS 9
NOT OUT* 1
RUNS 150
HIGHEST SCORE 48
AVERAGE 18.8
BOWLING
OVERS 100.2
MAIDENS 17
WICKETS 18
RUNS 307
BEST BOWLING 5-17
AVERAGE 17.1
STRIKE RATE 33.4
ECONOMY RATE 3.1

David Envall
MATCHES 7
BATTING
INNINGS 8
NOT OUT* 0
RUNS 126
HIGHEST SCORE 49
AVERAGE 15.8
BOWLING
OVERS 35
MAIDENS 8
WICKETS 4
RUNS 121
BEST BOWLING 2-27
AVERAGE 30.3
STRIKE RATE 52.5
ECONOMY RATE 3.5
Jarrod Milsom
BATTING
INNINGS 4
NOT OUT* 0
RUNS 40
HIGHEST SCORE 21
AVERAGE 10.0
BOWLING
OVERS 41.3
MAIDENS 6
WICKETS 4
RUNS 112
BEST BOWLING 2-18
AVERAGE 28.0
STRIKE RATE 62.3
ECONOMY RATE 2.7



The facts seem to suggest the other 3 would be picked well and truely before Milsom, Outswinger, and if Chambers has a dodgy action it seems strange that no-one has picked it up in 100 overs?

It seems like you are a little blinded by club loyalty on this one.
 
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keepinemhonest;311218 said:
Just going by the stats from my cricket:

Brett Cole
BATTING
INNINGS 8
RUNS 184
HIGHEST SCORE 72
AVERAGE 23.0
BOWLING
OVERS 39.2
MAIDENS 12
WICKETS 11
RUNS 125
BEST BOWLING 4-36
AVERAGE 11.4
STRIKE RATE 21.5
ECONOMY RATE 3.2

Troy Chambers:
MATCHES 7
BATTING
INNINGS 9
NOT OUT* 1
RUNS 150
HIGHEST SCORE 48
AVERAGE 18.8
BOWLING
OVERS 100.2
MAIDENS 17
WICKETS 18
RUNS 307
BEST BOWLING 5-17
AVERAGE 17.1
STRIKE RATE 33.4
ECONOMY RATE 3.1

David Envall
MATCHES 7
BATTING
INNINGS 8
NOT OUT* 0
RUNS 126
HIGHEST SCORE 49
AVERAGE 15.8
BOWLING
OVERS 35
MAIDENS 8
WICKETS 4
RUNS 121
BEST BOWLING 2-27
AVERAGE 30.3
STRIKE RATE 52.5
ECONOMY RATE 3.5
Jarrod Milsom
BATTING
INNINGS 4
NOT OUT* 0
RUNS 40
HIGHEST SCORE 21
AVERAGE 10.0
BOWLING
OVERS 41.3
MAIDENS 6
WICKETS 4
RUNS 112
BEST BOWLING 2-18
AVERAGE 28.0
STRIKE RATE 62.3
ECONOMY RATE 2.7



The facts seem to suggest the other 3 would be picked well and truely before Milsom, Outswinger, and if Chambers has a dodgy action it seems strange that no-one has picked it up in 100 overs?

It seems like you are a little blinded by club loyalty on this one.

Stats only mean something at the end of the season for trophies and at the end of a career.

I would love for Cole to put his hand and play and Chambers. They would be find they would be on struggle street in Bendigo Country Week as would a lot of cricketers in the league who have never played anywhere else but in their little cove.

Players who ability are selected even if they have not played their best. The Aussie test Team is an example eg. Hayden, M Hussey and Lee. You have to be able to play at that level and I know guys like Lenny Watson, Jarrod Milsom and more have that ability to play at the next level which Bendigo Country Week is. Cole, Chambers and Enval would struggle big time.

And I think you will find that Chambers' action has been noted by umpires and he is not far away from being reported.
 
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