DVCA Barclay Shield 09/10

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Re: DVCA Barclay Shield 09/10

The430king;391063 said:
Who are you trying to kid mate. Yes there are always bad decisions in cricket and sport in general. Bad decisions happen everywhere, every club i'm sure have copped their shockers this year.

Blaming the umpires for your teams demotion back to Money Shield is laughable and an absolute disgrace. Bad decisions happen everywhere, every club i'm sure have copped their shockers this year. My suggestion is to review the year, work hard, bust your guts out to get back into Barclay next year and stop sulking about things that aren't in control.

Yes the umpires have there favourites, it's been happening for a zillion years, but get over it. I will give you one thing though, if this umpire has supposedly said what you've claimed, that is a disgrace.

Favouritism happens everywhere in every sport, all players love to be loved so why would it be any different for the umpires. Playing in a team that has won more games lately you do seem to have a better success rate with your appeals. By being more successful every appeal isn’t life or death as you know you will generally create another opportunity again. When you are struggling as a side, I think that sometimes lookslike the umpires seem to show favouritism, but if you can’t beat them join them. So win some games and develop a repour with the umps and gain the favourable decision.
Rather have a shabby neutral ump then a cheater from the other team, which in turn generally leads to your own team cheating.
 
Re: DVCA Barclay Shield 09/10

Plenty were pretty awesome today! I rocked up with Bundoora 0/24 then proceeded to watch 6 wickets fall for 5 runs. Game over on the back of some potent and probeing bowling which had the Bundoora boys pinned against the ropes copping a hideing.
 
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brutal;391295 said:
Plenty were pretty awesome today! I rocked up with Bundoora 0/24 then proceeded to watch 6 wickets fall for 5 runs. Game over on the back of some potent and probeing bowling which had the Bundoora boys pinned against the ropes copping a hideing.

riverside made 78 and mernda were 7 for 80 in 30 overs then why did riverside did not play the game out?? a low scoring affair, there were 80 overs left to play!!!! and this guy is captain of the rep team.
logic says mernda would have struggled to defend for 40 overs in the 2nd dig. gibbs mustnt have backed themselves to make 90-100 off 30 odd overs to have a chance at playing in a GF, or was he busy on monday?????
i cant think of better reverse outright oppurtunity, and we were the kings of reverses this season, mainly bad ones!!
 
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harry2bob;391673 said:
riverside made 78 and mernda were 7 for 80 in 30 overs then why did riverside did not play the game out?? a low scoring affair, there were 80 overs left to play!!!! and this guy is captain of the rep team.
logic says mernda would have struggled to defend for 40 overs in the 2nd dig. gibbs mustnt have backed themselves to make 90-100 off 30 odd overs to have a chance at playing in a GF, or was he busy on monday?????
i cant think of better reverse outright oppurtunity, and we were the kings of reverses this season, mainly bad ones!!

Not to sure on playing the game out. I think once a first innings result is gained, then it may be time with the reserve day only there togain a first innings result. Also must keep in mind time lost due to rain. I stand to be corrected on that explanation though!
 
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harry2bob;391673 said:
riverside made 78 and mernda were 7 for 80 in 30 overs then why did riverside did not play the game out?? a low scoring affair, there were 80 overs left to play!!!! and this guy is captain of the rep team.
logic says mernda would have struggled to defend for 40 overs in the 2nd dig. gibbs mustnt have backed themselves to make 90-100 off 30 odd overs to have a chance at playing in a GF, or was he busy on monday?????
i cant think of better reverse outright oppurtunity, and we were the kings of reverses this season, mainly bad ones!!

Riverside couldn't go into the 3rd day because Mernda had beaten them with their 1st innings score. Day 3 is only used so that a 1st innings result can be achieved. Reverse outright can only happen by the end of day 2.
Different rules for semi's harry2bob! You will make a good Captain yet!
 
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cold case;391713 said:
Riverside couldn't go into the 3rd day because Mernda had beaten them with their 1st innings score. Day 3 is only used so that a 1st innings result can be achieved. Reverse outright can only happen by the end of day 2.
Different rules for semi's harry2bob! You will make a good Captain yet!

i would have thought Day3 is to complete the overs? i am sure sides have attempted reversies in previous years despite a day 1 or 2 result?

isnt every game a 2 inns game unless specified as a one dayer?

mind you, the spare day is stupid, why they change rules for finals i'll never know!!!

hard to be a good captain (who wants to be!) when the goalposts keep changing, sorry gibbsy!!!
 
Re: DVCA Barclay Shield 09/10

DVCA Rule S59 para 6C.

.....the match sometimes continues on day 3. Note. You play day 3 if needed to get a 1st innings result, but only to get a first innings result.
 
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harry2bob;391717 said:
i would have thought Day3 is to complete the overs? i am sure sides have attempted reversies in previous years despite a day 1 or 2 result?

isnt every game a 2 inns game unless specified as a one dayer?

mind you, the spare day is stupid, why they change rules for finals i'll never know!!!

hard to be a good captain (who wants to be!) when the goalposts keep changing, sorry gibbsy!!!

You are correct when you say that sides have attempted a reverse outright. Epping last year for example. They had to do it by the end of day 2 though. Only a first innings result for semis unless outright is achieved by the end of day 2. So it doesn't really change at all.
 
Re: DVCA Barclay Shield 09/10

So both the new boys in the DVCA (Camrea and Greensborough) have made the Money Shield Grand Final and one is guaranteed to get up to Barclay on their first try. That doesn't say too much for the standard of Money Shield. Anyone think either team could make an impact in Barclay next year? Are HDCA and JIKA clubs better than expected?
 
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five80;391723 said:
So both the new boys in the DVCA (Camrea and Greensborough) have made the Money Shield Grand Final and one is guaranteed to get up to Barclay on their first try. That doesn't say too much for the standard of Money Shield. Anyone think either team could make an impact in Barclay next year? Are HDCA and JIKA clubs better than expected?

i will tell u something budd camrea and rosebank would finish in the top 4 for sure even maybe top 2
 
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five80;391723 said:
So both the new boys in the DVCA (Camrea and Greensborough) have made the Money Shield Grand Final and one is guaranteed to get up to Barclay on their first try. That doesn't say too much for the standard of Money Shield. Anyone think either team could make an impact in Barclay next year? Are HDCA and JIKA clubs better than expected?

and mcgann would be premier player in the competition
 
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five80;391723 said:
So both the new boys in the DVCA (Camrea and Greensborough) have made the Money Shield Grand Final and one is guaranteed to get up to Barclay on their first try. That doesn't say too much for the standard of Money Shield. Anyone think either team could make an impact in Barclay next year? Are HDCA and JIKA clubs better than expected?

Camrea have the experience with Bubis and co, and also the class with McGann, Boro have the runs with Kelsey and Butters, there bowling could let them down, being able to bowl sides out within 80 overs is a whole new challenge in Barclay ( they will prob roll Camrea in 50 now that I have said that).

Carmea the more allround side, Boro with more young kids coming through in the next few years, both sides will do well in Barclay.
 
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WanderingUnity;391793 said:
Camrea have the experience with Bubis and co, and also the class with McGann, Boro have the runs with Kelsey and Butters, there bowling could let them down, being able to bowl sides out within 80 overs is a whole new challenge in Barclay ( they will prob roll Camrea in 50 now that I have said that).

Carmea the more allround side, Boro with more young kids coming through in the next few years, both sides will do well in Barclay.

Your on fire WanderingUnity.

I don't think you can compare competitions as in previous thread. I think it is on a club to club basis. Obviously both Camrea and Boro have come this season and shown they have some club depth, and that is the challenge in the DVCA. We all know Barclay is a step up again so the side that goes up will need to shown further growth.

I think you are right both would be competitive.
Good luck to all this weekend representing their clubs!
 
Re: DVCA Barclay Shield 09/10

Grand Final day is opon us again for another year. Having a look at the Barclay Shield match it will all depend on one thing, how well Plenty bat. They havent set tghe world on fire with any massive scores this year however have had someone stand up every week. The key will be if soemone from outside of Love, Zull and Pavey can contribute a decent score. Mernda have the second best bowling lineup in the comp not far behind Plenty, so I think this is the key in the whole match.

I think everyone will agree that Plenty's bowling has been brilliant all year with the likes of Rosbrook, Salvatore, Hubber and Daniel Cocking. I may be wrong but I dont think they have had more than 160 runs hit against them all year bar one game. Somehow I dont see Mernda's frail batting lineup become the second team to do it. Hopefully for the contest they can put up some sort of a fight.
 
Re: DVCA Barclay Shield 09/10

PremiersAgain;392569 said:
Grand Final day is opon us again for another year. Having a look at the Barclay Shield match it will all depend on one thing, how well Plenty bat. They havent set tghe world on fire with any massive scores this year however have had someone stand up every week. The key will be if soemone from outside of Love, Zull and Pavey can contribute a decent score. Mernda have the second best bowling lineup in the comp not far behind Plenty, so I think this is the key in the whole match.

I think everyone will agree that Plenty's bowling has been brilliant all year with the likes of Rosbrook, Salvatore, Hubber and Daniel Cocking. I may be wrong but I dont think they have had more than 160 runs hit against them all year bar one game. Somehow I dont see Mernda's frail batting lineup become the second team to do it. Hopefully for the contest they can put up some sort of a fight.

Some sort of fight?? Shouldn't you be saying that about your mob?? I would have loved to be there today to see the action!!
 
Re: DVCA Barclay Shield 09/10

Anyone think the 4 piece ball is a chance to come in next year? I heard that for the entire competition this year the bowlers took a wicket every 19 runs. And each of the grand final teams take their wickets every 13 runs! I reckon it's time to make the bowlers earn their wickets, they've got it too easy.
 
Re: DVCA Barclay Shield 09/10

five80;392804 said:
Anyone think the 4 piece ball is a chance to come in next year? I heard that for the entire competition this year the bowlers took a wicket every 19 runs. And each of the grand final teams take their wickets every 13 runs! I reckon it's time to make the bowlers earn their wickets, they've got it too easy.

I agree somewhat. I do believe the 4 piece should and will come in but I assure you it is a result from the bouncy wickets rather than the 2 piece ball.
The batting hasn't improved a great deal either. Maybe an era where the bowlers are superior to the batsman.
 
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cold case;392846 said:
I agree somewhat. I do believe the 4 piece should and will come in but I assure you it is a result from the bouncy wickets rather than the 2 piece ball.
The batting hasn't improved a great deal either. Maybe an era where the bowlers are superior to the batsman.

I think history shows that Ball generally dominates Bat in finals.
 
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