THE ICEMAN
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Re: DVCA: Barclay Shield
Why not im sure you have put worse yourself.get over it;345626 said:
DVCA: Barclay Shield
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The430king
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Re: DVCA: Barclay Shield
Simple fact of the matter is Mernda won because they had recruited 3 proven players in Barclay Shield in Bakes, Chesto and Snowy. Lalor Stars made the granny because of Keaysy, a barclay shield champion, and some very good batting during the year. Epping won the flag, but they came up from Money shield 7 years ago, it did tae them some time to get there. If you think Macleod had a great year last year, you've got your head under a rock. Simple fact is if Money Shield clubs want to stay in barclay for an extended period, they need to recruit players that have been in barclay shield and been succesful, as that's what Mernda and Stars have done. If you have a look at Mernda's team, if they lost there 3 stars, they would struggle as they don't have depth and a Lalor Stars player has told me the same thing.
get over it;345473 said:
Simple fact of the matter is Mernda won because they had recruited 3 proven players in Barclay Shield in Bakes, Chesto and Snowy. Lalor Stars made the granny because of Keaysy, a barclay shield champion, and some very good batting during the year. Epping won the flag, but they came up from Money shield 7 years ago, it did tae them some time to get there. If you think Macleod had a great year last year, you've got your head under a rock. Simple fact is if Money Shield clubs want to stay in barclay for an extended period, they need to recruit players that have been in barclay shield and been succesful, as that's what Mernda and Stars have done. If you have a look at Mernda's team, if they lost there 3 stars, they would struggle as they don't have depth and a Lalor Stars player has told me the same thing.
cold case
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What advantage is there in a 4 piece ball?Didnt help Mctaggert or Rosbrook much using a 2 piece.We dont play on turf.Only 4 or 5 bowler took 30+ wickets and nearly all are 39+.Other than Mick Hansen there are no young blokes who are even close to good bowlers.
The moral to this story is: the cream will always rise to the top!
five80;350696 said:
What advantage is there in a 4 piece ball?Didnt help Mctaggert or Rosbrook much using a 2 piece.We dont play on turf.Only 4 or 5 bowler took 30+ wickets and nearly all are 39+.Other than Mick Hansen there are no young blokes who are even close to good bowlers.
The moral to this story is: the cream will always rise to the top!
five80
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Mate - there are young bowlers playing who actually think they can bowl. They've never used a 4 piece ball. They try and play higher levels and can't handle it when they realise that they have to actually learn how to get wickets with a real ball. Not to mention how bad it looks when you compare the DVCA to the rest of the state/country. It's actually embarrassing.
Mate - there are young bowlers playing who actually think they can bowl. They've never used a 4 piece ball. They try and play higher levels and can't handle it when they realise that they have to actually learn how to get wickets with a real ball. Not to mention how bad it looks when you compare the DVCA to the rest of the state/country. It's actually embarrassing.
get over it
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Absolutely correct, and anyway Lalor Stars 2's have played finals for a few years too.
one shot;346066 said:
Absolutely correct, and anyway Lalor Stars 2's have played finals for a few years too.
cold case
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They are obviously not good enough in the first place.As a junior you have the choice if selected to play Hatch & Dowling Shield plus all the other avenues.I stipulate once again like in many other posts over the years.If anyone is entertaining playing at a higher level.Batsman or bowler.They must spend a couple of years in their local comp in the top grade and show enough talent to warrant a decent career at district level or higher.Play grass roots cricket with the big boys before venturing of to learn all the bad habits from the district scene.There are always exceptions to this but those kids were obviously good enough in the first place.
I would think a piece ball would be easier and better to bowl with.The seam is
higher and holds up better and it doesnt swing as much.Although I played 2 seasons with a 4 piece and it still bent a fair bit.
five80;350802 said:
They are obviously not good enough in the first place.As a junior you have the choice if selected to play Hatch & Dowling Shield plus all the other avenues.I stipulate once again like in many other posts over the years.If anyone is entertaining playing at a higher level.Batsman or bowler.They must spend a couple of years in their local comp in the top grade and show enough talent to warrant a decent career at district level or higher.Play grass roots cricket with the big boys before venturing of to learn all the bad habits from the district scene.There are always exceptions to this but those kids were obviously good enough in the first place.
I would think a piece ball would be easier and better to bowl with.The seam is
higher and holds up better and it doesnt swing as much.Although I played 2 seasons with a 4 piece and it still bent a fair bit.
Wattle Glenn 2010
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Re: DVCA: Barclay Shield
What do we think, how Lalor and Mernda will fair.
Lets be honest they were not the best teams in the comp but they played with the best cricket.
Sides like, Lower Eltham, Plenty and definetely Riverside let them selves down.
What do we think wil happen this season guys.
What do we think, how Lalor and Mernda will fair.
Lets be honest they were not the best teams in the comp but they played with the best cricket.
Sides like, Lower Eltham, Plenty and definetely Riverside let them selves down.
What do we think wil happen this season guys.
cold case
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Re: DVCA: Barclay Shield
What advantage is there in a 4 piece ball?Didnt help Mctaggert or Rosbrook much using a 2 piece.We dont play on turf.Only 4 or 5 bowler took 30+ wickets and nearly all are 39+.Other than Mick Hansen there are no young blokes who are even close to good bowlers.
The moral to this story is: the cream will always rise to the top!
five80;350696 said:
What advantage is there in a 4 piece ball?Didnt help Mctaggert or Rosbrook much using a 2 piece.We dont play on turf.Only 4 or 5 bowler took 30+ wickets and nearly all are 39+.Other than Mick Hansen there are no young blokes who are even close to good bowlers.
The moral to this story is: the cream will always rise to the top!
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Ask any bowler who comes back from district cricket and they will tell you that the 2 piece ball swings too much. How many slow medium pacers get away with good figures because the 2 piece ball gives them the advantage of throwing the ball up on a line and waiting on the batsman to make a mistake. Bit different at the higher standards where you have to work the ball and bowl more attacking lines with a 4 piecer.
cold case;350826 said:
Ask any bowler who comes back from district cricket and they will tell you that the 2 piece ball swings too much. How many slow medium pacers get away with good figures because the 2 piece ball gives them the advantage of throwing the ball up on a line and waiting on the batsman to make a mistake. Bit different at the higher standards where you have to work the ball and bowl more attacking lines with a 4 piecer.
five80
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Re: DVCA: Barclay Shield
Mate - there are young bowlers playing who actually think they can bowl. They've never used a 4 piece ball. They try and play higher levels and can't handle it when they realise that they have to actually learn how to get wickets with a real ball. Not to mention how bad it looks when you compare the DVCA to the rest of the state/country. It's actually embarrassing.
Mate - there are young bowlers playing who actually think they can bowl. They've never used a 4 piece ball. They try and play higher levels and can't handle it when they realise that they have to actually learn how to get wickets with a real ball. Not to mention how bad it looks when you compare the DVCA to the rest of the state/country. It's actually embarrassing.
cold case
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Re: DVCA: Barclay Shield
They are obviously not good enough in the first place.As a junior you have the choice if selected to play Hatch & Dowling Shield plus all the other avenues.I stipulate once again like in many other posts over the years.If anyone is entertaining playing at a higher level.Batsman or bowler.They must spend a couple of years in their local comp in the top grade and show enough talent to warrant a decent career at district level or higher.Play grass roots cricket with the big boys before venturing of to learn all the bad habits from the district scene.There are always exceptions to this but those kids were obviously good enough in the first place.
I would think a piece ball would be easier and better to bowl with.The seam is
higher and holds up better and it doesnt swing as much.Although I played 2 seasons with a 4 piece and it still bent a fair bit.
five80;350802 said:
They are obviously not good enough in the first place.As a junior you have the choice if selected to play Hatch & Dowling Shield plus all the other avenues.I stipulate once again like in many other posts over the years.If anyone is entertaining playing at a higher level.Batsman or bowler.They must spend a couple of years in their local comp in the top grade and show enough talent to warrant a decent career at district level or higher.Play grass roots cricket with the big boys before venturing of to learn all the bad habits from the district scene.There are always exceptions to this but those kids were obviously good enough in the first place.
I would think a piece ball would be easier and better to bowl with.The seam is
higher and holds up better and it doesnt swing as much.Although I played 2 seasons with a 4 piece and it still bent a fair bit.
bradfromeltham
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Re: DVCA: Barclay Shield
i heard that the norf elfam wonderers are gunna be real good dis year
i heard that the norf elfam wonderers are gunna be real good dis year
Wattle Glenn 2010
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Re: DVCA: Barclay Shield
What do we think, how Lalor and Mernda will fair.
Lets be honest they were not the best teams in the comp but they played with the best cricket.
Sides like, Lower Eltham, Plenty and definetely Riverside let them selves down.
What do we think wil happen this season guys.
What do we think, how Lalor and Mernda will fair.
Lets be honest they were not the best teams in the comp but they played with the best cricket.
Sides like, Lower Eltham, Plenty and definetely Riverside let them selves down.
What do we think wil happen this season guys.
cold case
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Re: DVCA: Barclay Shield
Who are the slow medium pacers that get away with good figures?And who are the district players that swing it too much?Havent seen them or met them.Gibbsy maybe 1 but doesnt swing it that much.I think this is more of a batsmans problem.They want it a bit easier.
brutal;351095 said:
Who are the slow medium pacers that get away with good figures?And who are the district players that swing it too much?Havent seen them or met them.Gibbsy maybe 1 but doesnt swing it that much.I think this is more of a batsmans problem.They want it a bit easier.
Re: DVCA: Barclay Shield
Ask any bowler who comes back from district cricket and they will tell you that the 2 piece ball swings too much. How many slow medium pacers get away with good figures because the 2 piece ball gives them the advantage of throwing the ball up on a line and waiting on the batsman to make a mistake. Bit different at the higher standards where you have to work the ball and bowl more attacking lines with a 4 piecer.
cold case;350826 said:
Ask any bowler who comes back from district cricket and they will tell you that the 2 piece ball swings too much. How many slow medium pacers get away with good figures because the 2 piece ball gives them the advantage of throwing the ball up on a line and waiting on the batsman to make a mistake. Bit different at the higher standards where you have to work the ball and bowl more attacking lines with a 4 piecer.
bradfromeltham
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Re: DVCA: Barclay Shield
i heard that the norf elfam wonderers are gunna be real good dis year
i heard that the norf elfam wonderers are gunna be real good dis year
cold case
Active Member
Re: DVCA: Barclay Shield
Who are the slow medium pacers that get away with good figures?And who are the district players that swing it too much?Havent seen them or met them.Gibbsy maybe 1 but doesnt swing it that much.I think this is more of a batsmans problem.They want it a bit easier.
brutal;351095 said:
Who are the slow medium pacers that get away with good figures?And who are the district players that swing it too much?Havent seen them or met them.Gibbsy maybe 1 but doesnt swing it that much.I think this is more of a batsmans problem.They want it a bit easier.
legend of a bear
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Re: DVCA: Barclay Shield
Congrats on your re-appointment Deano. Will you be getting paid as much now that Joycey & Powell have signed on?
THE PREZ;352421 said:
Congrats on your re-appointment Deano. Will you be getting paid as much now that Joycey & Powell have signed on?
Master Blaster
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Chris Gayle is unavailable
THE PREZ;352421 said:
Chris Gayle is unavailable
Bundoora
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Re: DVCA: Barclay Shield
Thanks mate.
Joyce wont cost a cent if he decides to have a run, he has coached our kids for thepast 4/5 years and we are trying to get him to have a hit, might play 1 or 2 games or 9/10? Has already stated does not want to be paid to play.
Not sure wether Robots wants to play "a" grade or have a hit with jack, now i've got the nod i'll find out in the next few weeks. Huge boost for us if we can get both, as everyone knows, our batting has been dissapointing so would be great start to have these two blokes in the top 6.
legend of a bear;352489 said:
Thanks mate.
Joyce wont cost a cent if he decides to have a run, he has coached our kids for thepast 4/5 years and we are trying to get him to have a hit, might play 1 or 2 games or 9/10? Has already stated does not want to be paid to play.
Not sure wether Robots wants to play "a" grade or have a hit with jack, now i've got the nod i'll find out in the next few weeks. Huge boost for us if we can get both, as everyone knows, our batting has been dissapointing so would be great start to have these two blokes in the top 6.
geezatheking
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Re: DVCA: Barclay Shield
Hey boys I was speaking to Gary Davies from TAB SPORTSBET this week and he gave me an updated market for next years medal. Interested in your thoughts.
$3.00 Mark Minney(reliable and proven vote getter)
$4.50 Justin Witcher( ditto)
$5.50 Scott Gibson( Run machine and wicket taker)
$7.00 Paul Baker( Smoking Gun!)
$10.00 Robert Fletcher( Dont know anything about him)
$15.00 Brent Bailey( Apparently come of age in granny. Robert Nahas twin??)
$17.00 Anthony Volpe( Proven match winner)
$21.00( any other player. )
$25.00 Luke Rossbrook( Again big match performer)
$31.00 Shane Wallingham( Hits the ball miles but needs more consistency)
$35.00 Either Hurst( Both quite capable)
$41.00 M. Ravindra( just needs to back up the form of last year)
$51.00 T Keays( Can the old warrior back up again)
$51.00 G Chesterton( will he go around?? worth the punt at odds)
$51.00 Either Glynn( proven vote getters)
$51.00 C. Salvatore( could be one at odds??)
$61.00 J Davis (worth his WEIGHT in gold!!)
$101.00 Any player from North Eltham getting a single vote( need bigger odds!)
Your thoughts guys who we backing!!
Hey boys I was speaking to Gary Davies from TAB SPORTSBET this week and he gave me an updated market for next years medal. Interested in your thoughts.
$3.00 Mark Minney(reliable and proven vote getter)
$4.50 Justin Witcher( ditto)
$5.50 Scott Gibson( Run machine and wicket taker)
$7.00 Paul Baker( Smoking Gun!)
$10.00 Robert Fletcher( Dont know anything about him)
$15.00 Brent Bailey( Apparently come of age in granny. Robert Nahas twin??)
$17.00 Anthony Volpe( Proven match winner)
$21.00( any other player. )
$25.00 Luke Rossbrook( Again big match performer)
$31.00 Shane Wallingham( Hits the ball miles but needs more consistency)
$35.00 Either Hurst( Both quite capable)
$41.00 M. Ravindra( just needs to back up the form of last year)
$51.00 T Keays( Can the old warrior back up again)
$51.00 G Chesterton( will he go around?? worth the punt at odds)
$51.00 Either Glynn( proven vote getters)
$51.00 C. Salvatore( could be one at odds??)
$61.00 J Davis (worth his WEIGHT in gold!!)
$101.00 Any player from North Eltham getting a single vote( need bigger odds!)
Your thoughts guys who we backing!!
legend of a bear
Member
Re: DVCA: Barclay Shield
Congrats on your re-appointment Deano. Will you be getting paid as much now that Joycey & Powell have signed on?
THE PREZ;352421 said:
Congrats on your re-appointment Deano. Will you be getting paid as much now that Joycey & Powell have signed on?
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