Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)

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South Barwon have scooted along to be 4-234 off 51 overs. Hester made a quick fire 65 and the Hornet is well over 50. If the Swans keep batting the overs it could be a big total with the early swing and movement off the wicket slowing up a bit. And over from Marshall it appears Benny the Jet is not having things his own way with Marshall at one stage about 5-130 odd.
 
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thommy_rissole;277686 said:
Yes One-day cricket is the way forward. Good example with South posting 392, rains all day next saturday and both teams get a draw, not good enough.

Also need to eliminate outright points, not fair on the whole competition. Say Thomson are really struggling this season and St Peters play us in a one-dayer, bowl us out for 35 and pass us in the 8th over. Next week we play a 2dayer, Manifold bowl us out for 60, pass us 1 down inside 15 overs and put us back in an beat us outright, that's not fair on St Peters who would've also beaten us outright if they had of played us in a 2 day game.

Another example is saturday we fielded for 85 overs, i didn't take a catch and didn't get a bowl, why would i want to do that every second saturday? Not the greatest encouragement to keep everyone interested in playing locally. At least with a one-day game, first 15 overs are exciting, fields up batsmen are having a go, last 10 overs is the same, so only got 25 overs to keep yourself entertained and really "get through". Also you get a bat everyweek and it eliminates outrights.

Play every team home and away (fair draw) only need 22 saturdays regular season - no finals, winner is on top after round 22, shorter season - longer christmas break and player unavailability will 1/2 as alot of players miss a full match (2 days) because they are only unable to play 1 day.
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What memories, the 5 years I spent over there playing one day cricket with winning & losing draws, wins & losses was absolutely crap.

On a number of occasions, we had sides 9/70 after posting 250+ batting first. side batting second just shut up shop, played for the losing draw, got the points because we didn't get the last wicket.
Then get this, we actually won more games than 1/2 the sides we played against and we finished in the bottom 3, just missed relegation. the other sides fiished mid table with 2 wins for the year. WORK THAT OUT. :eek:

AS for one day cricket all year round, bring it on, a lot easier to get sides together with people working shift work etc; :D

And for us older guys a bit easier on the body and recovery. :rolleyes:

Before you young lads have a crack, you'll be there sooner than later and will know what I'm talking about if you don't know already :D
 
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Dipsy me thommy rissole, no wonder ya came to play hear. now stop all the numbers man, ya gonna turn us off the game as well.
 
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thommy_rissole;277698 said:
He wouldn't understand it at 2pm on a wednesday either, struggles with life.

I thought he quit St Albans CC?

Last season he was over watching us play Corio in the Quarter-Final whilst you guys were playing down the road, he told everyone at Thomson he quit, obviously been welcomed back with open arms?
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He stopped playing last year but he is back this year, face redder than ever!!!!:D
 
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South Barwon 4-300 off 63 overs. Hornet could possibly take the South Barwon club record score in the 1st XI of 157. If he bats for another 10 overs he will take that.
 
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Babies Arm;277516 said:
i look forward to the challenge. lees should worry bout where he bowls to our bats, not where we bowl to them
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im alright mate im not to worried about ur bats
 
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crktluva;277700 said:
Dipsy me thommy rissole, no wonder ya came to play hear. now stop all the numbers man, ya gonna turn us off the game as well.
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So do you play Bellarine or GCA????? cmon easy question no need to hide just name the club!
 
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what's with st peters? twice in in 2 weeks, they bowl a team out for a measly total ( this week, corio for 82 ) and then slump to be all out for ************ all, or in this case 4/38, now on the back foot?
 
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thommy_rissole;277677 said:
Top levels aren't that similar, VCA 1st XI is a huge step ahead of any top leagues i saw around counties. Also our State XI's are also higher in standard than your county league. This is mainly due to the English County system having 18 teams and 2 overseas players per 1st XI then on top of that Kolpak players. I think it was in last season's 20/20 finals day, one team had only 2 english-born players in the 11.

As for a "funny system" the league i played in England had a pretty weird points system and this is how it worked.

One-day 100 over match.
Team batting first has option of batting 55 overs.
Bonus points for batting at the 45 over mark: -
100 runs - 1 points
120 runs - 2 points
140 runs - 3 points
160 runs - 4 points
180 runs - 5 points
But if you batted past 50 overs your bonus batting points were lost (eg: 167/2 after 45 overs, bat to 50 overs - 4 points, bat to 55 overs - 0 points).
The team batting first had their batting points doubled (eg: 167/2 after 45 overs - 4 points (x2) = 8 points)
For every odd-wicket you get a point.
1 wicket - 1 point
3 wickets - 2 points
5 wickets - 3 points
7 wickets - 4 points
9 wickets - 5 points
But this is where it gets complicated, the team batting second must be bowled out completely (eg:10 wickets) for the team batting first to get win points. If the team batting 2nd doesn't get bowled out it's declared a drawn match (eg: both teams get a further 2 points, on top of their batting/bowling points)

For example: St Josephs vs Lara Round 2 http://mycricket.cricket.com.au/com...loc=/cricket/reports/match.asp&matchID=494001

Geelong West batted first were over 180 at the 45 over mark (10 points)
Lara got 9 wickets (5 points)

Lara batted second and were over 180 at the 45 over mark (5 points)
Geelong West got 6 wickets (3 points)

Lara chased down Geelong West's score therefore get 20 points for the win, plus they get their batting points (5). Total points: Lara 25, West 13

A hypothetical if Lara finished at 6-220 off their 50 overs.

The batting and bowling points would be the same but because Lara couldn't chase down West's total and West couldn't bowl Lara out the match is declared a draw, 2 points each.
Therefore the points would read: Lara (12), West (13)

When you played against a weaker team often they would just shut-up shop from over 1 and bat for the draw, making for the boringest 50 overs and 3 hours of your life.

I think the best format would be if we played English style (100 one-day match) with Australian points (6 win, 3 tie, loss).
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Levels are hard to compare, although I agree that overall the Australian system produces better cricketers, in larger numbers.

They have tried to address this with the introduction of the ECB premier leagues, which are about the same as county 2nd standards (or should be as a lot of counties use them instead of a 2nd XI), however this standard is largely down to 4/5 players rather than the team as a whole.

My home town club have always tended to have a 1st grade level player as an overseas, mainly from the Brisbane or the Queensland area. Last year they had a keeper from Western Suburbs (Giarola?) who seemed a reasonable player. Didn't set the leagues on fire but the summer was rubbish and he took time to get used to the wickets, which were often damp, low and slow.

Generally though, the overseas will normally be towards the top of the averages (which they're paid for I guess).

As for the scoring system, yeah, it can be a bit confusing/weird and not helped by the fact that every league has it's own variations or point thresholds. The main idea behind them is to encourage positive cricket, getting teams to go for the runs or wickets to score a point extra here or there. The winning or losing draws should be phased out though as they don't really help anything and some ways contradict the idea of positive cricket because, as you said, the weaker teams will just shut up shop.
 
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thommy_rissole;276869 said:
Quite an extensive list with a team of 12 to be picked from that early next week.

Anthony Armisted (North Geelong)
Daniel Bolton (Modewarre)
Shaun Cambell (Teesdale)
Luke Consedine (Colac)
Levi Dare (Stoneyford)
Luke Davidson (Alexander Thomson)
Jaryd Debeer (St Peters)
Michael Fallon (Barwon Heads)
Sam Farnsworth (St Josephs)
James Fitzgerald (St Josephs)
Shannon Gove (Newtown)
Sam Green (East Belmont)
Jason Grozdanovski (Murgheboluc)
Mitchell Herbison (Barwon Heads)
Andrew Hodgson (St Josephs)
Tony Kilfoyle (Leopold)
Jacob McGuane (Alvie)
Patrick McMahon (St Albans)
Shane McNamara (Stoneyford)
Chris Moreland (Bell Post Hill)
Becker Nguyen (East Belmont)
Troy Nolan (St Josephs)
Jack O'Donaghue (St Josephs)
Sean O'Neill (Thomson)
Xavier Prime (Warrion)
Ravi Ravee (St Josephs)
Yves Rousetty (Newtown)
Matthew Slater (Torquay)
Alex Stanley (Newtown)
Chris Strods (Thomson)
Mitchell Troy (North Shore)
Albert Weddell (Barrabool)
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who is on the selection panel
 
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thevetran;277708 said:
So do you play Bellarine or GCA????? cmon easy question no need to hide just name the club!
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sorry vetran didnt see your earlier post, i play BPCA
 
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Badger;277306 said:
what's with st peters? twice in in 2 weeks, they bowl a team out for a measly total ( this week, corio for 82 ) and then slump to be all out for ************ all, or in this case 4/38, now on the back foot?
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Without making any excuses, there are currently 6 players out from last season's side and they seem to be going along ok; albeit being bowled out for small totals. Don't think they have made 200 yet? The batsman out today are G Nelson, C Nelson, Shields and Illingworth. Still a bit of batting to come. Illingworth 4/16, Holbrook 4 /10 up from the 2nds.
 
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ok Saint Albans V Newcomb game report. the vetran rocked up early!!! so if anyone knows Muz ask him about this....
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If anyone knows Jay Addy ask him about this

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and if anyone knows Stuart Calder ask him about this
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and finally if anyone knows the vetran ask him about this
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Early prediction:

'Waurn Ponds forever' to be referred to/be included in the same group as sharkbite, bringbackwarney and GCC101 within 20 posts.
 
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Early prediction:

'Waurn Ponds forever' to be referred to/be included in the same group as sharkbite, bringbackwarney, cheetahs08 and GCC101 within 3 posts.
 
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Renny24;277331 said:
Well bowled Ants. Magpies not without a chance here.
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thanks mate, yeh i reckon were in a good position. we just couldnt get lofty out, he batted real well. i bowled 17 on the trot in my first spell, im so screwed right now.
 
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wat did u do daz, take ur laptop to the game and just post updates all day? cool or uncool? either way its dedication. good job.
 
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I don't know how it happened but someone had a camera today at the St Albans game and managed to capture Jay getting off the ground!!!!!!! Yes thats right off THE ground.


S Calder seen leaving here
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Anyway game report.................Um we batted first, batted like spastics made 160, they went in and batted like bigger spastics all out 138.

Our batting
Calder-failed
Fitzgerald-quack quack quack(1st ball)
MacMahon-failed
Irvine-failed
Murray 80 odd
Addy-failed
Hodgson-20 odd
Mckay-20 odd
Jones-failed again really should be at 11 for the rest of his cricket days:D
Wegener-not out
Ernie-what do you expect

Our bowling
Muzz -bowled well 1 for
mckay-bowled into a gale:D 2 for
jones-bowled well 1 for
Addy-bowled well 3 for (in 4 balls)
Ernie-First spell bowled pies, came back to get 3 wickets when the game was in the balance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then nearly WWF in the clubrooms with Jay, Johnny and big Supercat from newcomb................................
 
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If it is right there will surely be a write up in the "Gabbletiser" on Wednesday. Good chance it won't be a good write up but there just may be one.
 
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Renny24;277328 said:
Without making any excuses, there are currently 6 players out from last season's side and they seem to be going along ok; albeit being bowled out for small totals. Don't think they have made 200 yet? The batsman out today are G Nelson, C Nelson, Shields and Illingworth. Still a bit of batting to come. Illingworth 4/16, Holbrook 4 /10 up from the 2nds.
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No offence Renny, but if that is S Illingworth out, then T Hester is your only chance of winning that game from what I saw last week
 
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Those kind of things used to go in "Around the Wicket" on Wednesdays, but they seem to have scrapped it in favour of a token piece of Cats propaganda
 
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wiseoldman;277323 said:
who is on the selection panel
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Would be a very difficult job trying to find the best U/21's in the region. There's a lot of good kids out there that don't get a look in cause they're from a club that either don't have senior country week selectors at their club or past players at their clubs or U/21 selectors at their clubs. It's up to the clubs to nominate their good kids for consideration.

Score Update:

Alexander Thomson all out 144
Bell Park 0-0
 
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There could possibly be a bit to write about this round.

8/43 David Warnock Teesdale Division 3 2nds
7/17 Peter Litjens South Barwon Division 1 4ths
6/4 Thomas Baldock St Josephs Division 1 4ths
6/13 Steven McDonald Thomson Division 2 4ths
6/31 Jai Schmidt South Barwon Division 1 2nds
6/107 Mark Grant Geelong City Division 1 3rds

and 10 Century Makers so far...
 
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Dragon's Lair;277369 said:
No offence Renny, but if that is S Illingworth out, then T Hester is your only chance of winning that game from what I saw last week
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James Whitehand & Jaryd DeBeer currently in. Hester, McArthur & Guthridge to come. All have had decent starts this season. Sounds a bit silly but i am actually tipping an outright from here. Feel free to get stuck into me if we don't.
 
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Dinosaur_Maroon&Blue;277835 said:
6/31 Jai Schmidt South Barwon Division 1 2nds
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Could he possibly get a promotion or is he destined to be as his name suggests "2nd XI at Best"?

Would assume he'd be a starter in most other 1st XI's around Geelong?

Pretty hard to get in front of D & B Haunstein, B Anderton and Filthy Phil Hunt i would imagine.
 
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ants14;277358 said:
wat did u do daz, take ur laptop to the game and just post updates all day? cool or uncool? either way its dedication. good job.
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hehe, we have our broadband connection down at the club, so the club's laptop was there. I thought to keep myself interested let's post a few scores up, you never know who out there in cyberspace is keen on the scores. Anyway we ended up with 392 off the 85 overs. Again myself contributed 0 to a score of over 300, it seems a common occurence after last week. So far with the bat I have scored 0 for the season. Is there anyone else in the whole of Geelong that can match up against that ??

BTW Big Babies Arms smashed a few powerfull sixes late in the day with one of them sailing right over the top of the South Barwon club rooms and landing on a car parked out the back.

Hornet was smashing them and would have had time to bring up almost a double century but went out to not the best ball and being caught at point. This was after drinks not being ready for the over before so they had to go one more over. When he was walking off he was heard to let spray the drinks being late thus causing him to loose his wicket !!

For The Two Blues veteran Dev Royce bowled well with a long spell but due to the rush of runs his figures also made a century.

It was good to see David Boyd back into the 1st XI with his customary inside out shots back, with one of them going straight over the fence at cover point for a six. All in all a good day for the Swans and it would be interesting to know what the all time highest score in Div 1st XI cricket is.
 
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thommy_rissole;277838 said:
Could he possibly get a promotion or is he destined to be as his name suggests "2nd XI at Best"?

Would assume he'd be a starter in most other 1st XI's around Geelong?

Pretty hard to get in front of D & B Haunstein, B Anderton and Filthy Phil Hunt i would imagine.
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hunt out next game, so is a massive chance:eek:
 
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gca_ipl;277395 said:
hehe, we have our broadband connection down at the club, so the club's laptop was there. I thought to keep myself interested let's post a few scores up, you never know who out there in cyberspace is keen on the scores. Anyway we ended up with 392 off the 85 overs. Again myself contributed 0 to a score of over 300, it seems a common occurence after last week. So far with the bat I have scored 0 for the season. Is there anyone else in the whole of Geelong that can match up against that ??

BTW Big Babies Arms smashed a few powerfull sixes late in the day with one of them sailing right over the top of the South Barwon club rooms and landing on a car parked out the back.

Hornet was smashing them and would have had time to bring up almost a double century but went out to not the best ball and being caught at point. This was after drinks not being ready for the over before so they had to go one more over. When he was walking off he was heard to let spray the drinks being late thus causing him to loose his wicket !!

For The Two Blues veteran Dev Royce bowled well with a long spell but due to the rush of runs his figures also made a century.

It was good to see David Boyd back into the 1st XI with his customary inside out shots back, with one of them going straight over the fence at cover point for a six. All in all a good day for the Swans and it would be interesting to know what the all time highest score in Div 1st XI cricket is.
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Newtown's Stephen Wells holds the Div 1 1st XI record highest score of 237 in 86/87 V East Belmont.
 
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anyone bother to read the crappertiser today, i thought id give it one more chance and guess what. Still crap, one game reviews and some dribble on the side. PLEASE, everyone just stop buying it on mmondays and see if they change it. tell all cricketers dont buy it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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