Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)

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I think in terms of best player in GCA, you have to think about guys like Brad, Loftus, Talarico, and to think out of them all, who would go best at a higher level. In my opinion, the best technically is Loftus, though Talarico runs him close. At a GCA level, it is difficult to argue with Brad H's numbers, but would his technique stand up to 1st grade bowling/batting at VCA level? For me the best player is Loftus.
 
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right arm medium;228877 said:
Why did Brad bat at 6 in the biggest game of his career after batting 4 all year? Would never have seen Loftus or Talarico hide.
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Not sure if I agree with that. Didn't South bat in the evening of the first day with only about an hour of play on an overcast day. I reckon most teams would not want their best bat to go out in the middle while only chasing a smallish total. Not sure if the great Glen Talarico has actually played in a GCA grand final, and as for Lofty if his side was in that situation it would not be einstein to stop him from going in. If the other South bats that went in on the first night had of done their job then this discussion would have been over. :)
 
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Smokin Joe;228834 said:
I think in terms of best player in GCA, you have to think about guys like Brad, Loftus, Talarico, and to think out of them all, who would go best at a higher level. In my opinion, the best technically is Loftus, though Talarico runs him close. At a GCA level, it is difficult to argue with Brad H's numbers, but would his technique stand up to 1st grade bowling/batting at VCA level? For me the best player is Loftus.
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Yes, Loftus and Talarico do look good, but does that really matter??? By memory a bloke called Steve Waugh made over 10,000 of the ugliest runs you will ever see and he made them at the highest level. I am not saying Brad would make runs at that level or at the VCA level, but it proves being ugly and making runs or being pretty making runs doesn't mean jack shit!!!!
 
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TheManInTheTree;228790 said:
so, still fastest bowler in geelong??? or was??? is he past his best or still got what it takes
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he wont be playing going there as non playing coach im pretty sure.

and who was it in earlier post that said this was made up and ripped threads off the person that posted it? u look silly now
 
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fineleg2fineleg;228839 said:
Yes, Loftus and Talarico do look good, but does that really matter??? By memory a bloke called Steve Waugh made over 10,000 of the ugliest runs you will ever see and he made them at the highest level. I am not saying Brad would make runs at that level or at the VCA level, but it proves being ugly and making runs or being pretty making runs doesn't mean jack shit!!!!
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I wasn't talking about looking good, i was talking about having the tools/technique to be able to do it at a higher level.
 
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Bringbackwarney;228904 said:
he wont be playing going there as non playing coach im pretty sure.

and who was it in earlier post that said this was made up and ripped threads off the person that posted it? u look silly now
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Time will tell. I am sticking by my comments. Brendan Hall will not be at Newcomb.
 
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As with bowling. Harps was never the cleanest or best looking bowler going around, but he has been the best strike bowler in the last 10 years of GCA divi 1 cricket.

So being not technically correct just does not matter.
 
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Div 1 (ie best in Geelong)


Most Underated: Gareth Yelland: His day in the sun is approaching
Most Overated: Damian Koliba: Not sure why he still bothers
Best: Brad Hauenstein: Can't go past him for consistency and achievement

Div 2

Most Underated: Steve Illingworth: Makes runs, takes wickets consistently
Most Overated: Matt Barkley/ Lucas Cameron
Best: Lucas Benci. At present. Has had a good coule of seasons. Would be good to see him back up in Div 1 at some stage.
 
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Smokin Joe;228840 said:
I wasn't talking about looking good, i was talking about having the tools/technique to be able to do it at a higher level.
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so loftus and talarico averging 25 at vca 1st compares to brads hauensteins vic country stats and an ausralian country team?????
 
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gca_ipl;228881 said:
Not sure if I agree with that. Didn't South bat in the evening of the first day with only about an hour of play on an overcast day. I reckon most teams would not want their best bat to go out in the middle while only chasing a smallish total. Not sure if the great Glen Talarico has actually played in a GCA grand final, and as for Lofty if his side was in that situation it would not be einstein to stop him from going in. If the other South bats that went in on the first night had of done their job then this discussion would have been over. :)
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At least someone knows what he is talking about.
 
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Smokin Joe;228840 said:
I wasn't talking about looking good, i was talking about having the tools/technique to be able to do it at a higher level.
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Fair point! But I think Brads record counts for itself. I think he would have no problems stepping up to that level. I also think that it is shown by Geelong year in year out trying to chase him proves what talent they think he is and could be at Geelong. Lets hope for both the GCA and Sth Barwons sake he never heads down to the Cattery.
 
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right arm medium;228877 said:
Why did Brad bat at 6 in the biggest game of his career after batting 4 all year? Would never have seen Loftus or Talarico hide.
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Right Arm Medium I know for a fact that YOU have respect for him, so don't start with this dribble. Your not that sort of guy, your better than that!!
 
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fineleg2fineleg;228847 said:
Fair point! But I think Brads record counts for itself. I think he would have no problems stepping up to that level. I also think that it is shown by Geelong year in year out trying to chase him proves what talent they think he is and could be at Geelong. Lets hope for both the GCA and Sth Barwons sake he never heads down to the Cattery.
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does anyone know why he has never been down to geelong?or if in fact he has been?
 
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fineleg2fineleg;228847 said:
Fair point! But I think Brads record counts for itself. I think he would have no problems stepping up to that level. I also think that it is shown by Geelong year in year out trying to chase him proves what talent they think he is and could be at Geelong. Lets hope for both the GCA and Sth Barwons sake he never heads down to the Cattery.
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Lies, Damn lies, and Statistics. He would get found out against the quicker bowlers.
 
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clearing pickets;228850 said:
does anyone know why he has never been down to geelong?or if in fact he has been?
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I think the fact that he has green and gold of sth barwon running through his veins has something to do with it.
 
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tazzie28;228926 said:
i with u kid
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Are you taz from thomson?? i think all of the comments about u on this forum are true.. you just on here to defend yourself which is fine.
 
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Smokin Joe;228853 said:
Lies, Damn lies, and Statistics. He would get found out against the quicker bowlers.
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oh, ok bradman. the country championships have no quicks. his not the best. his not in the top 10. only the blokes who played at geelong are better than him.
 
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gca_ipl;228881 said:
Not sure if I agree with that. Didn't South bat in the evening of the first day with only about an hour of play on an overcast day. I reckon most teams would not want their best bat to go out in the middle while only chasing a smallish total. Not sure if the great Glen Talarico has actually played in a GCA grand final, and as for Lofty if his side was in that situation it would not be einstein to stop him from going in. If the other South bats that went in on the first night had of done their job then this discussion would have been over. :)
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Fair call.... except that he did not come in at 5 after about 5 or 6 overs on the second day.
I do believe that Grovedale however sent their best bat in to open the batting, after losing the toss. I think he had a good game?
 
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right arm medium;228946 said:
Fair call.... except that he did not come in at 5 after about 5 or 6 overs on the second day.
I do believe that Grovedale however sent their best bat in to open the batting, after losing the toss. I think he had a good game?
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Oh you mean the guy who has opened the batting pretty much his whole life?
Yeh excellent point, now u mention it.
 
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Babies Arm;228860 said:
oh, ok bradman. the country championships have no quicks. his not the best. his not in the top 10. only the blokes who played at geelong are better than him.
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and in English that would be????
 
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gca_ipl;228881 said:
Not sure if I agree with that. Didn't South bat in the evening of the first day with only about an hour of play on an overcast day. I reckon most teams would not want their best bat to go out in the middle while only chasing a smallish total. Not sure if the great Glen Talarico has actually played in a GCA grand final, and as for Lofty if his side was in that situation it would not be einstein to stop him from going in. If the other South bats that went in on the first night had of done their job then this discussion would have been over. :)
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I agree. Awful deck, difficult batting conditions, you wanna try and see off the new pill then move from there.
Glad u know ur stuff gca
 
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Smokin Joe;228862 said:
and in English that would be????
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why dont u put him in the overated status then.

they way you are talking, loftus and talarico who had poor vca averages are higher than brad!!! both great players but never question brad when you never played higher than him or been where his been
 
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i hear portarlington are looking for a coach still!!! getting desperate now, probably offer to a decent div 1 3rds player. also vassilou to geelong west....
 
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Babies Arm;228864 said:
why dont u put him in the overated status then.

they way you are talking, loftus and talarico who had poor vca averages are higher than brad!!! both great players but never question brad when you never played higher than him or been where his been
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Who says i haven't. Top player don't get me wrong! I just love seeing you blokes get all over protective of him! Brings a tear to the eye!
 
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div 1

most underated- adam pitts
most overated- brett anderton
best- scott lindsay

div 2

most underated- damian port
most overated- adrian salta
best- ricky o'toole
 
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Smokin Joe;228865 said:
Who says i haven't. Top player don't get me wrong! I just love seeing you blokes get all over protective of him! Brings a tear to the eye!
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haha it is quite funny :D
i do agree with south barwon followers that brad would stand up to VCA level, but i'm very interested why he never has tried his luck in the VCA wether it be Geelong or elsewhere.
 
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Second XI At Best;228948 said:
Oh you mean the guy who has opened the batting pretty much his whole life?
Yeh excellent point, now u mention it.
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you mean the guy in the team of best blokes
 
Re: Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)

Babies Arm;228864 said:
why dont u put him in the overated status then.

they way you are talking, loftus and talarico who had poor vca averages are higher than brad!!! both great players but never question brad when you never played higher than him or been where his been
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Why did Brad bat at 6 in the biggest game of his career after batting 4 all year? Would never have seen Loftus or Talarico hide.
 
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right arm medium;228877 said:
Why did Brad bat at 6 in the biggest game of his career after batting 4 all year? Would never have seen Loftus or Talarico hide.
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Ouch....
 
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shark bite;228960 said:
who would you prefer in your team in there hey day
harper or agg
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I'd prefer harper because of this shere pace and bounce. one of the quickest ever.
 
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right arm medium;228877 said:
Why did Brad bat at 6 in the biggest game of his career after batting 4 all year? Would never have seen Loftus or Talarico hide.
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Not sure if I agree with that. Didn't South bat in the evening of the first day with only about an hour of play on an overcast day. I reckon most teams would not want their best bat to go out in the middle while only chasing a smallish total. Not sure if the great Glen Talarico has actually played in a GCA grand final, and as for Lofty if his side was in that situation it would not be einstein to stop him from going in. If the other South bats that went in on the first night had of done their job then this discussion would have been over. :)
 
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right arm medium;228946 said:
Fair call.... except that he did not come in at 5 after about 5 or 6 overs on the second day.
I do believe that Grovedale however sent their best bat in to open the batting, after losing the toss. I think he had a good game?
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I am not sure how often any team on the 1st day would actually move their opener (who pretty much opens all his life) down the order in a grand final. It may be feasible to do this on the evening of the 1st day, but it would not even be dreamt of in the 1st innings of a match. In saying that Kelson was the major difference between the two sides and scoring 80 odd out of 120 had to be one of the highest percentage of a team total that has ever won a grand final. Maybe need to get Mr Stat's man of the GCA Kevin O'Dowd onto that one!!
 
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TheManInTheTree;228790 said:
so, still fastest bowler in geelong??? or was??? is he past his best or still got what it takes
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he wont be playing going there as non playing coach im pretty sure.

and who was it in earlier post that said this was made up and ripped threads off the person that posted it? u look silly now
 
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shark bite;228958 said:
div 1

most underated- adam pitts
most overated- brett anderton
best- scott lindsay

div 2

most underated- damian port
most overated- adrian salta
best- ricky o'toole
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bit of a City flavour here ! :)
not sure if you would class the guy that lead the GCA country week sides bowling honours last season as over-rated. Sure he could possibly be better than what he was if he was fully fit but over-rated, no.
Lindsay is interesting as he has not played much GCA cricket. Will be interesting to see how he goes after a full year back in the comp. At the end of the year might need to see how this post stacks up.
 
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