pepper the pig
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I wouldn't put it past him to leave Heidelberg especially if they don't go to DVCA. The mail is that is where he wants to finish his career & has always wanted to play in the DVCA.
HDCA Cricket Chat 2010/11
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Keon park is my club, Trust me, if they had all their players available no one would get close to moneybank!
I played enough against them. they are not even close to having a full strength team, I get on with them off the ground
but not on, very hard cricketers, funny though in jika it was always there lesser lights that would get them over the line
in the big games. They are carrying a lot of guys, looks like they are trying to produce a future! not sure if any of the young guys are up to it. I wil say it again if cristafoli/capaldo/watts play no one in park cricket will get near them. Camrea have lost all their quailty players and rely on imports to survive where all of Moneybanks 4 teams make finals every year.
I played enough against them. they are not even close to having a full strength team, I get on with them off the ground
but not on, very hard cricketers, funny though in jika it was always there lesser lights that would get them over the line
in the big games. They are carrying a lot of guys, looks like they are trying to produce a future! not sure if any of the young guys are up to it. I wil say it again if cristafoli/capaldo/watts play no one in park cricket will get near them. Camrea have lost all their quailty players and rely on imports to survive where all of Moneybanks 4 teams make finals every year.
If Camrea had the same players as they had when they went to dvca, they would of won Barclay easy.
I played against both for 12 years you will never have the quality of players at any club that those two had at thier best.
Moneybank dominated HDCA first year and in my opinion the top 4 of all three comps are all the same.
Moneybank were going for five in a row at thier best. Moneybank, Plenty, Heidelberg best three clubs in the North at their individual height.imo
I played against both for 12 years you will never have the quality of players at any club that those two had at thier best.
Moneybank dominated HDCA first year and in my opinion the top 4 of all three comps are all the same.
Moneybank were going for five in a row at thier best. Moneybank, Plenty, Heidelberg best three clubs in the North at their individual height.imo
100% agree that Rosebank would have gone v close in Barclay back in 08/09 when at their peak, however now they are past it. Your suggestion that they're looking to the future is a joke as well, because when I saw them a few weeks ago only one player was under about 27 or 28, and he only gets a game because he's the scorer's son! Also, I think they only have three teams now (and no juniors)....would be surprised if they exist in five years.
Now, speaking to a few of the other things bought up in this thread...
- Edinburgh had a bad day in week one of the finals; I'm confident they'd beat Rosanna more often than not. Having the best batsman in the comp given out when his bat was almost past the popping crease was always going to put them on the back foot, and they just never got going. I missed the second day, but taking 62 overs to chase 105 is not the sign of a great team. Even though their bowling is excellent, their batting lacks firepower if Sheehan doesn't get going.
- That Edinburgh life member has apparently quit LPCC to head back to Brunswick St
- Sampimon to play Sub district cricket in the east (near where he lives)
- Triple Dunbar leaving Rosanna
- Mick Lewis doesn't have a year to run at Coburg, and Rosanna obviously want him back. Interesting the rumour on the previous page regarding Simon Dart - would make a stack of runs on synthetic, and probably take lots of wickets, too. Can't see RCC opening the cheque book though, not their style. As big a tool as sannasb2b is, a great majority of the RCC guys are good fellas, and they wouldn't want a mercenary at their club
- Aidan Young back to Banyule. With Boc and Rowdy playing full seasons, they'll be back amongst it
- Lasith coming back for a second year with HCC
Anyone else heard anything interesting???
I find Moneybank's post on Rosebank interesting re: not being around in 5 years bizarre. I know the guys at Cotchin can produce whatever they want as they have a bottomless money pit. Juniors are critical to every club but they will introduce ready made players as they see fit. I'm pretty sure they have a young gun sri lankan spinner that chucks play a number of games this year as well.
Unfotunately HDCA wont be around in 5 years & you will find the Poorly administered Jika comp probably wouldn't be around either in 2 years due to mismanagement, however clubs will migrate to jika now, which will prolong a slow death(to Jika) for a little longer.
Re: Comments made on Edinburgh, that have been pillaged in finals for many years. Just not up to it in big games. Poorly led club.
Have also heard that Sampimon will finish his cricket closer to home.
Rosanna doesnt pay players!!! Yeah right. Big cash has been offered to Mick Lewis & Tim Sheehan among others players for next season. Unfortunately no one is too keen on playing Money shield.
Aidan Young to Banyule wont make a difference. He doesnt have any courage as a player. Big head in a dud club which prefers partying to cricket. He has never made runs Vs a good team.
Unfotunately HDCA wont be around in 5 years & you will find the Poorly administered Jika comp probably wouldn't be around either in 2 years due to mismanagement, however clubs will migrate to jika now, which will prolong a slow death(to Jika) for a little longer.
Re: Comments made on Edinburgh, that have been pillaged in finals for many years. Just not up to it in big games. Poorly led club.
Have also heard that Sampimon will finish his cricket closer to home.
Rosanna doesnt pay players!!! Yeah right. Big cash has been offered to Mick Lewis & Tim Sheehan among others players for next season. Unfortunately no one is too keen on playing Money shield.
Aidan Young to Banyule wont make a difference. He doesnt have any courage as a player. Big head in a dud club which prefers partying to cricket. He has never made runs Vs a good team.
the_stalwart
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Mate not sure where your getting these Facts from but you do talk quite a bit of Garbage Samps would never leave Rosebank unless he retired which is still at least another 5-6 years away. How would you know Lasith would be coming Back. Last i Heard from Heidelberg even they don't know if he's coming back. So before you Post your Claims make sure you have some idea of what's going on. As for Mick Lewis would be very Surprised if he came back to play Money Shield. Simon Dart wouldn't even look twice in this area to play cricket the minimum ask for him is 25K and they ain't any clubs in this comp who could fork out that much. Heidelberg in the early 2000s Camrea and Rosebank in the mid 2000s would have been the 3 best teams in the Area. David Plumpton still the best player in the whole Northern Region by a Mile nearly 30 wkts and over 500 runs.
After playing for many years against MONEYBANK, it is clear that in their prime no club in any comp would have gotten close to them with the likes of L.Watts making runs for fun while N.Walker and T.Tenuta gave them the platform required for players such as D.Plumpton to tear the opposition to shreds at will. That is without mentioning the likes of D.Sampimon, S.Watts, G.Larson and M.Cristofoli. As far as i am concerned they really had no weakness, even their president was able to hold up his end at times.
After all our clubs have been through, and the rivalry that was built up, they were clearly a cut above the rest. If one failed another would rise, at times it was frustrating, but also to be admired. Knowing the pres personally, i can see why they were so successful, i dont think he accepts the word "lose", and doesn't understand phrase "didnt make finals" and if these words were whispered he would probably halve all of the players weekly wage. The checkbook has probably gone into overdrive as he would be furious with no teams making the grand final with the money that is being spent. Believe me moneybank will not accept no trophey next year, expect the likes of high class players to join them over the next few years and if that fails again, expect the pres to take over the comp like he once did in the jika days and hand his club the trophy!!!!!!
I wouldnt put it passed them to poach young district talents for cash, however, we saw how they treated the young boys they poached from us with their checkbook!!
Good luck to them though, if it worked in the past it should work in the future, but with nothing more than a handful of youngsters who have yet to prove themselves, whether there is a future or not remains to be uncovered, but who knows, they could probably buy their future!!
After all our clubs have been through, and the rivalry that was built up, they were clearly a cut above the rest. If one failed another would rise, at times it was frustrating, but also to be admired. Knowing the pres personally, i can see why they were so successful, i dont think he accepts the word "lose", and doesn't understand phrase "didnt make finals" and if these words were whispered he would probably halve all of the players weekly wage. The checkbook has probably gone into overdrive as he would be furious with no teams making the grand final with the money that is being spent. Believe me moneybank will not accept no trophey next year, expect the likes of high class players to join them over the next few years and if that fails again, expect the pres to take over the comp like he once did in the jika days and hand his club the trophy!!!!!!
I wouldnt put it passed them to poach young district talents for cash, however, we saw how they treated the young boys they poached from us with their checkbook!!
Good luck to them though, if it worked in the past it should work in the future, but with nothing more than a handful of youngsters who have yet to prove themselves, whether there is a future or not remains to be uncovered, but who knows, they could probably buy their future!!
bringbackdeano
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Yes I have heard this is on the cards. My mail also tells me another former HDCA player who was captain coach of a Money Shield side for the past two season, may be heading back to his original club.
Triple Dunbar??? Hadn't heard that, but have heard that Scott and Dan may be on the move. Who's the other one?
Agree on both counts, sannasb2b is a tool and I get along with heaps of the Rosanna blokes, sorry to see them go and have had many great games against them over the years
bringbackdeano
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Freedom of speach??? Learn to spell. You're a tool because you come on here gloating about the demise of a competition that's been going for almost 90 years and don't appear to have anything worthwhile to say. Have your opinion, fine, but if you choose to come here and talk shyte, then don't complain when you get criticised.
What's "the Street" anyway? And were you at the HDCA meeting last Wednesday?
northmetroboy
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After playing for many years against MONEYBANK, it is clear that in their prime no club in any comp would have gotten close to them with the likes of L.Watts making runs for fun while N.Walker and T.Tenuta gave them the platform required for players such as D.Plumpton to tear the opposition to shreds at will. That is without mentioning the likes of D.Sampimon, S.Watts, G.Larson and M.Cristofoli. As far as i am concerned they really had no weakness, even their president was able to hold up his end at times.
After all our clubs have been through, and the rivalry that was built up, they were clearly a cut above the rest. If one failed another would rise, at times it was frustrating, but also to be admired. Knowing the pres personally, i can see why they were so successful, i dont think he accepts the word "lose", and doesn't understand phrase "didnt make finals" and if these words were whispered he would probably halve all of the players weekly wage. The checkbook has probably gone into overdrive as he would be furious with no teams making the grand final with the money that is being spent. Believe me moneybank will not accept no trophey next year, expect the likes of high class players to join them over the next few years and if that fails again, expect the pres to take over the comp like he once did in the jika days and hand his club the trophy!!!!!!
I wouldnt put it passed them to poach young district talents for cash, however, we saw how they treated the young boys they poached from us with their checkbook!!
Good luck to them though, if it worked in the past it should work in the future, but with nothing more than a handful of youngsters who have yet to prove themselves, whether there is a future or not remains to be uncovered, but who knows, they could probably buy their future!!
all about money, that is why the JIKA was ruined, by these power clubs, since they have left the wheel is slowly turning for the good, no big cheque books but honest hard work, sure there is money going around but nowhere near the level that Rosebank and Camrea were dishing out....no surprise the HDCA went bust 3 years after rosebank joined.
whilst they have been a successful and powerful club, the downside is that it makes 'the real' clubs struggle to compete.
hence why the comp flounders. Camrea and Rosebank did this to the JIKA.
When they all realise its park cricket, we can all prosper...even the west heid, north heid, east ivanhoes....real clubs with real people who turn up to play with their mates not line their pockets.
If it isn't for these ex victorian or district cricketers the standard of park cricket would be unworthy to play in a serious manner. It would be called PUB cricket instead. Sometimes the only way to lift Standard of PARK cricket is to exert money. As for HDCA getting ruined by Rosebank you have to be joking there the ones that Rejuvinated this great comp and my Recollection was that NMCA were on their Knees at the Start of the year because your Comp was on the Brink of being diminished. HDCA have done JIKA a favour now by wanting to MERGE but if nothing gets done now NMCA will be cooked in 5 years time when KEON PARK by then would have joined DV as well.
pepper the pig
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unfortunately that is way the future is going (paying $$$$)
in order to stay competitive & compete with these types of clubs, $$$$$ needs to be spent on imports or good players. these types of players are very unlikely to come if $$$$ are not offered. that's just the way it is
real clubs?? the type of club that payed snooza 10k to leave us?? we won without any of those rabbits that left us.
you fool "real clubs" Like you wouldn't take any of those clubs or any other club. Ask the comp President what he thinks.
We haven't had any competition since those clubs left! Yeah we all dislike them but you need strong clubs to prosper.
We will win it again next year if all remains the same, so are we all about money too??
you fool "real clubs" Like you wouldn't take any of those clubs or any other club. Ask the comp President what he thinks.
We haven't had any competition since those clubs left! Yeah we all dislike them but you need strong clubs to prosper.
We will win it again next year if all remains the same, so are we all about money too??
northmetroboy
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rivergum no competition? and you didnt even finish on top...stupid statement.'
its my opinion, but the 'real clubs' are what park cricket is about....i think its extremely sad the HDCA with all its history is going down.....clubs spending truckloads of cash, make it too hard for the minnows to compete, thus reducing the numbers...
as for rosebank, in 3 years...wrecked the JIKA and the HDCA folded, you work it out
northmetroboy
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i dont think its all about moneybank, but from a perspective of a viewbank, east ivanhoe and the other strugglers....why bust your gut to never get anywhere??????? rosanna and heid and banyule want to leave as there is no competition??? yes??
powerclubs break the spirit of the weak, its what they set out to do....when the comp flounders as a direct result, the blame everyone else, mainly the execs.
Raywood's Chins
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well i'll tell you what, hasn't it been a big week for all the rosanna boys up in sunny gold coast celebrating the A-Grade flag, it was that crazy that even Nurse Maculay decided to have a beer with us. Crazy. Big news is that Simon Dart is coming to De Winton to play with yours truly and my 6 chins. Also I have heard that Rosanna have offered Gavin Watson incentives to come across and open the batting considering Dan Dunbar was leaving, any truth to this?
Mate you should just stop before you make even a bigger fool of yourself. Not all the big Clubs spent a Truckload of cash. You don't need big money to be a successful club. These minnows you talk about have turned into minnows under their own fault. West Heidleberg and Bellfield used to be Powerhouses of the HDCA in the 90s until their club culture completely took over from the 2000s. These days money only gets outlayed to cricketers who deserve it. Who have worked hard all their career and have proven themselves. If you talk about Rosebank throwing cash at anyone you must be living in Fantasy Land. Unfortunately the state of some clubs they are unable to get a well qualified cricketer and be able to pay for it. The other thing is i will add i don't know about NMCA or JIKA but the minnow clubs do try and spent a little a bit of cash to seek for a cricketer in the HDCA but 1 player doesn't win you a game. The main point is you go and buy a cricketer for 20-30K but as seen with East Ivanhoe with Dulip Liyanage and other clubs like them they don't get you far. As you say Rosebank have plenty of Cash how come they haven't bought anyone of late seeing they haven't won a flag for 2 seasons. Why don't the great players they have jump ship and try and get a bigger pay cheque like Plumpton or Samps beacuse i'm sure clubs with money would offer them big coin to play as they are the best duo in the area. Doesn't matter what you say Rosebank haven't spent a penny on anyone since they've come over from JIKA they've had the same bunch of cricketers play for them since coming over. Yeah they might have had a few young guys but i'm telling you now they were on no pay cheque. Last i Heard they'll either be merging or back in your Comp so i want to see how much balls you'll have to tell them on the field when plumpton and sampimom are coming full bolt at ya. Your talking big now. I'd like to see how much you'd be talking in 6 months time when they'll be tearing your comp into shreds again with the same team they've had for the last 10 years.
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