If Our Indian team can follow this order, will win SURE

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That was a surprise loss by India overnight. I would have thought that India would have won the match.
 
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Garbage. Sri Lanka played better, more disciplined cricket, and deserved their victory. India's batting has been a house of cards, the bermuda hammering notwithstanding
 
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Chandu;147147 said:


Except for the little fact that South Africa is the currently number 1 ranked team in the world.

Except for the little fact that Australia lost VB series to England on their home soil.

Except for the little fact that Australia lost Chappell-Hadlee trophy to New Zealand. (OK, it might have been a second string Australia side, but they were all wearing an Australia shirt.)



The same Australia who lost to South Africa at the Wanderers in the greatest ever ODI ever played in the history of mankind?
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Australia is the best and you can't deny that. for sure we've lost in the past but I'm not going back in time I'm talking about now... I know that we are ranked number two in the world but it won't take long for us to reach the number one position. I was comparing India to Australia when they were about to play Sri Lanka... India lost HA HA HA. How do you feel, India is so pathetically emotionally attached for their team to win the world cup and so the whole country mourns when they lose and lose big time. ganguly, dravid, kumble and tendulkar are all aging and may never have the chance to play again in world cup. Australia too good too strong in bowling and batting big six's and fours a real force and dominant powerhouse.
 
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I think India's poor showing has a lot to do with their work ethic towards the game as well as their salaries. I went to watch my grade's Grand Final today (we were eliminated in the semis) and there was a conversation about how India have been travelling of late.

A valid reason given for their poor form was their work ethic. It was expressed that the Indian players are quite slack and don't have a big interest in training, which would explain why they are playing well below what they could achieve. This along with the vast amounts of money they earn was also raised.

The Indian players are idolized over in their home country, almost God-like and are paid accordingly. Contracts with the Madras Rubber Factory (MRF) as well as other endorsements and a share from the BCCI's TV telecast rights all add to the players big salaries. They are being paid big money to play cricket regardless of whether they play well or not. Perhaps it has gotten to the point where the players don't care what happens, they're going to be paid lots anyway.

This could be part of the problem with Indian cricket. Maybe the players are being overpaid? Maybe they don't command such large paypackets? They certainly aren't earning their money at the moment and they face an early exit from the World Cup.
 
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And who's India's coach? Is it still Chappell? In Yank pro sports the
coach is solely responsible for setting high work standards. If he can't do that
he takes the blame and is the first one sacked.
 
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timmyj51;147765 said:
And who's India's coach? Is it still Chappell? In Yank pro sports the
coach is solely responsible for setting high work standards. If he can't do that
he takes the blame and is the first one sacked.
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Tell that to Isiah Thomas and Joe Torre.
 
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"Tell that to Isiah Thomas and Joe Torre."


Torre offered to resign; Thomas will be out at the end of the season.
What excuse is there to keep Chappell?
 
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Ljp86;147733 said:
I think India's poor showing has a lot to do with their work ethic towards the game as well as their salaries. I went to watch my grade's Grand Final today (we were eliminated in the semis) and there was a conversation about how India have been travelling of late.

A valid reason given for their poor form was their work ethic. It was expressed that the Indian players are quite slack and don't have a big interest in training, which would explain why they are playing well below what they could achieve. This along with the vast amounts of money they earn was also raised.

The Indian players are idolized over in their home country, almost God-like and are paid accordingly. Contracts with the Madras Rubber Factory (MRF) as well as other endorsements and a share from the BCCI's TV telecast rights all add to the players big salaries. They are being paid big money to play cricket regardless of whether they play well or not. Perhaps it has gotten to the point where the players don't care what happens, they're going to be paid lots anyway.

This could be part of the problem with Indian cricket. Maybe the players are being overpaid? Maybe they don't command such large paypackets? They certainly aren't earning their money at the moment and they face an early exit from the World Cup.
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This is interesting, when you say big money, is it according to their standards? what i mean is in terms of rupees how much? or in terms of dollars how much? 6000 rupees is a lot for them but only equates to $150 which isn't much. So when you say they are being paid big money we have to look at in terms of currencies and their standard of living.
 
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marlyminks;147818 said:
This is interesting, when you say big money, is it according to their standards? what i mean is in terms of rupees how much? or in terms of dollars how much? 6000 rupees is a lot for them but only equates to $150 which isn't much. So when you say they are being paid big money we have to look at in terms of currencies and their standard of living.
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They are getting paid millions to play. Tendulkar would be highest paid player by far and I've heard he has quite a nice house somewhere in India. The Indian payment system works in a tier-type way. Each of the contracted players is sepearated into a "A", "B" and "C" level according to their value towards the side. So the best players are obviously going to be in the "A" bracket and will earn the most money.

Tendulkar is on quite a lot of money and I would think it would be in the millions.

In comparison to Australia, Adam Gilchrist is the highest paid Australian player. He earns about 4 million Australian dollars per year but the majority of that is from endorsements and contracts from sponsors.
 
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timmyj51;147765 said:
And who's India's coach? Is it still Chappell? In Yank pro sports the
coach is solely responsible for setting high work standards. If he can't do that
he takes the blame and is the first one sacked.
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Greg Chappell is still the coach of India. While it is up to the coach to get the best performance out of the players, I don't think he can be the sole person to blame here.

If players are lazy and unwilling to train as much as they should then it is hardly Chappell's fault they aren't playing well. The coach can do everything is his power to motivate the players and provide new drills, skills and techniques on the game, but it is up to the players to enact those new learned skills on the field.

Chappell is still part of the problem but he is not the sole reason they are not doing performing as well as they should. He doesn't seem to be able to get the best out of his players and they haven't played well as a unit for quite a while. Perhaps it is time he came back to Australia and coached his home state, South Australia, who have just lost their coach and really struggled in the 2006/2007 season.
 
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Ljp86;147957 said:
They are getting paid millions to play. Tendulkar would be highest paid player by far and I've heard he has quite a nice house somewhere in India. The Indian payment system works in a tier-type way. Each of the contracted players is sepearated into a "A", "B" and "C" level according to their value towards the side. So the best players are obviously going to be in the "A" bracket and will earn the most money.

Tendulkar is on quite a lot of money and I would think it would be in the millions.

In comparison to Australia, Adam Gilchrist is the highest paid Australian player. He earns about 4 million Australian dollars per year but the majority of that is from endorsements and contracts from sponsors.
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Okay, so just say Tendulkar is earning the same amount in Aussie Dollars that is 139.9 million rupees, which would be huge bucks for their standard, but on the other hand if it was 4 million rupees than that is only 114 thousand AUD which wouldn't be considered big bucks by our standards in my view.

You can buy an average house for $10,000 in India, the average homes in Bermuda start at $1.5 million US/BDA (our dollar is on par with the US dollar)

However it will be interesting to see the economic impact if any on the players, now that they are out of the competition.
 
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marlyminks;147963 said:
Okay, so just say Tendulkar is earning the same amount in Aussie Dollars that is 139.9 million rupees, which would be huge bucks for their standard, but on the other hand if it was 4 million rupees than that is only 114 thousand AUD which wouldn't be considered big bucks by our standards in my view.
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The top players would be earning in excess of 1 million American dollars. Players like Tendulkar, Dravid, Pathan, Ganguly and a couple of others would be in this top bracket.

It is big bucks. The players as well as Indian cricket itself are heavily sponsored so their salaries would be very large. Even the players in the lesser brackets would earn high amounts of money.

The Indian Cricket Board (BCCI) also has a multi-million dollar deal with a TV network (can't remember the name) to broadcast Indian Cricket Games. The figure is huge, something like $400 million plus. So the players would also get a share of this as well.

They are paid big money to play but they aren't performing of late.

marlyminks said:
You can buy an average house for $10,000 in India, the average homes in Bermuda start at $1.5 million US/BDA (our dollar is on par with the US dollar)
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That is crazy. I didn't know housing prices would be that high in Bermuda.

marlyminks said:
However it will be interesting to see the economic impact if any on the players, now that they are out of the competition.
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Probably won't be much if anything at all. I'd say the Indian players would have received bonuses for reaching the Super Eight stage, something they won't get since they are out of the tournament.

They definitely aren't earning their money of late.
 
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Ljp86;147971 said:
The top players would be earning in excess of 1 million American dollars. Players like Tendulkar, Dravid, Pathan, Ganguly and a couple of others would be in this top bracket.

It is big bucks. The players as well as Indian cricket itself are heavily sponsored so their salaries would be very large. Even the players in the lesser brackets would earn high amounts of money.

The Indian Cricket Board (BCCI) also has a multi-million dollar deal with a TV network (can't remember the name) to broadcast Indian Cricket Games. The figure is huge, something like $400 million plus. So the players would also get a share of this as well.

They are paid big money to play but they aren't performing of late.
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Okay so it is in US dollars, that's what I wanted to know from the beginning, so I see where you're coming from.

That is crazy. I didn't know housing prices would be that high in Bermuda.
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More like insane, because we have one of the highest cost of living in the world. Demand for houses outweigh the supply so hence the cost. the price we pay for being a "rich" country. But having said that, they are being snapped up quickly. The banks here give 100% mortgages so anybody can buy a house as long as they can pay the high monthly mortgage rates.

Probably won't be much if anything at all. I'd say the Indian players would have received bonuses for reaching the Super Eight stage, something they won't get since they are out of the tournament.

They definitely aren't earning their money of late
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I see your point
 
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marlyminks;148037 said:
Okay so it is in US dollars, that's what I wanted to know from the beginning, so I see where you're coming from.
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Yes, they are well-paid, wealthy players.

marlyminks said:
More like insane, because we have one of the highest cost of living in the world. Demand for houses outweigh the supply so hence the cost. the price we pay for being a "rich" country. But having said that, they are being snapped up quickly. The banks here give 100% mortgages so anybody can buy a house as long as they can pay the high monthly mortgage rates.
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That is phenomenal. I didn't think housing prices could be so high for such a small country. They say water increases the value of land but I didn't think it would be into the millions of dollars.

My state, Western Australia, is suffering from a similar problem. The prices for houses here have gone up due to the housing boom. Rent has also gone up to very expensive prices for the average home. Our housing prices now rival Sydney's which is insane in itself.
 
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timmyj51;148063 said:
In NBA a coach can be fired anytime; today, tomorrow or five years from
now.
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It would be rather poor business practice to guarantee a five year, multi-million dollar contract only to terminate him a few weeks later. He is not going anywhere.
 
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