Plantar Fasciitis

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someblokecalleddave;402388 said:
A lot older 50 in a couple of weeks, but I came to cricket at the age of 46 and I'm gutted that I missed out on it and only just discovered it and now it looks like it's going to be curtailed!

Yeah I found last year at the start of the season with grass wet under-foot that I was okay, we then had a very dry summer and like you Wrist Spin Bowling: Shocking 6-0-61-2 I suffered running across ground that was pretty much as hard as concrete and it's been since then that the condition has got worse.
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ive seen your youtube vids and think they are great.......mate dont give up now suck it up and get on with it......;)

just like i am....;)
 
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weapons05/06;402439 said:
thanks liz.......

calf muscles seem to be fine and have never had a problem there.......

my heel is the problem its a hot spot on my right foot.....inside of the heel from the top of the arch/heel and it/the pain is in and around a 1cm diameter.......i think im going to go to a padiatrist again......and get proper orthotics fitted to my arch/heel......what do you think????
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That is an unfair question to ask me... as an injury pathologist and soft tissue specialist, it is my job to eliminate the need for orthotics :D.

You may be right about your calf muscles and if you can lower your heels more than 5cm below your toes in the exercise I gave you, then they are OK.

Othotics deal with the symptoms, they do not treat the cause which will be with you for life unless addressed, but without seeing somebody like me, that probably is the best way to go.

weapons05/06;402439 said:
and when it hurts i have to walk on the front half of the foot/toes.....like dave when it warms up it hurts but the adrenalin of the game keeps me going......in the morning and after i put my feet up after work/sporting activities is when i hobble like a gimp......:eek:
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Points, even more, to the calf muscles. Going up on your toes shortens the calf muscles; eleviating pain... Remember: the calf muscles insert on the calcanaeus [heel bone]. When they are tight, they pull this bone up against gravity and your mass, which in turn pulls on the plantar fascia.
 
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Liz Ward;402445 said:
That is an unfair question to ask me... as an injury pathologist and soft tissue specialist, it is my job to eliminate the need for orthotics :D.

You may be right about your calf muscles and if you can lower your heels more than 5cm below your toes in the exercise I gave you, then they are OK.

Othotics deal with the symptoms, they do not treat the cause which will be with you for life unless addressed, but without seeing somebody like me, that probably is the best way to go.



Points, even more, to the calf muscles. Going up on your toes shortens the calf muscles; eleviating pain... Remember: the calf muscles insert on the calcanaeus [heel bone]. When they are tight, they pull this bone up against gravity and your mass, which in turn pulls on the plantar fascia.
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hmmmm ok...thanks im unsure what or how to ask you questions......are you in melbourne......???

if not do i see an injury patholigist(like you) would be my best way to over come my injury issues......

with doing the excersise for about 5 min just tried what you said and definately feel pain in the heel or plantar.......i can definately stretch 5cm even a little more.......is this the best thing for me to do.....???


sorry if i look like im writing a book but i must admit you are giving me things to think about which i apreciate bigtime.......

thanks weapo......
 
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It really is difficult to get the best advice over the internet. I guess from what you say, you are in Melbourne. I have had a look around... you are so lucky, you have specialists crawling out of every crevice :D. This one looks good: Masseur Centre Melbourne, Sports Medicine Centre. I do not know them so cannot 'recommend' them but they are worth looking at.

Book a remedial therapist for a sports massage and they will be able to assess your issues and work out a programme for you. It really is worth the money.

If you decide to give it a go, come back and let us know how it went.
 
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weapons05/06;402440 said:
ive seen your youtube vids and think they are great.......mate dont give up now suck it up and get on with it......;)

just like i am....;)
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Weapons mate - giving it up is the last thing I want to do, my kids are 8 and 11 and I want to be playing in their team when they come up through colts, I want to be getting bowled out by them and hit for 6 by them in real -inter club games and taking their wickets with my leg breaks every now and then, so the last thing I want to be doing is bailing out now. But I figure that if I ease up a bit this season and work on getting the muscles sorted somehow I might prolong my days as a bowler in the longer term.

Cheers for the comments re the blogs and videos!
 
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Liz Ward;402461 said:
It really is difficult to get the best advice over the internet. I guess from what you say, you are in Melbourne. I have had a look around... you are so lucky, you have specialists crawling out of every crevice :D. This one looks good: Masseur Centre Melbourne, Sports Medicine Centre. I do not know them so cannot 'recommend' them but they are worth looking at.

Book a remedial therapist for a sports massage and they will be able to assess your issues and work out a programme for you. It really is worth the money.

If you decide to give it a go, come back and let us know how it went.
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thanks love......your a darl........and yes will definately get back to you on how i went....
 
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I've had some treatment on one occassion from Liz and I can testify that it made a massive difference, just didn't follow up with further treatment and made the mistake of assuming I'd been fixed. In retrospect it looks as though once I've had some more treatment I need to take on board the fact that this is on-going and that I've probably got to do stretches for the rest of my life if I'm going to be able to move around with relative ease. I reckon though what with you being 20 years younger - your prognosis is probably more positive?
 
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Absolutely Dave... on all accounts.

These injuries are chronic and have taken years to nurture and develop. They are not going to disappear after one session. I would usually budget for 2 to 4 sessions, depending on how good you are with your exercising and stretching programme at home. If my clients were not 'repaired' within that time, I would consider myself a failure.

Having said that, I have some clients who have a sports massage every week; usually fitness instructors or elite athletes... just to keep their bodies in peak condition.

Remember, we can correct these injuries.. the sooner the better.. but if you are going to go back to doing whatever it was that caused the issue in the first place.. it will come back :(.
 
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I'm off now for the best part of 4 weeks what with being a teacher meaning I can get along to a physio and have this looked at. I've virtually stopped playing cricket and practicing my bowling and if anything it seems to have got worse. The weekend just gone I had a knock about with my kids and a bit of a bowl and it seems to have got really bad - painful for most of the day just walking around.

Do you think there's anything to be gained by seeing a doctor, or shall I go straight to a Physio?
 
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You could go to the doctor Dave; he might refer you to an NHS physio.

However, knowing your case well, you really need to see a Sport & Remedial Therapist. Unfortunately, one session will not be enough. The first session will tackle the major issues but you will need a second, and possibly third, session to really eradicate the problem.

I am out of the country at the moment and probably will not get back to the computer for a week but will get back to you as soon as I can if you have any further questions.

However, keep us up-to-date with your treatment.
 
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havnt been to the quacks yet been busy with work.......though pain has been a little better.......

stay tuned
 
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A little girl a friend of my sons has just been to the Dr's and had the same thing diagnosed by the sounds of it, I'll ask her Mum when I see her next, but it sounds like the same thing, the Dr's said that she's not to do any activities that'll potentially make it worse and to massage her feet/arch by rolling it across a bottle. She's also been told not to walk around bare-footed as well.


I've taken to foot ice baths putting the foot in the freezing cold water for 10-15 minutes after any activity and it seems to work quite well. I still haven't been to anyone yet, but will probably see a Dr to start off with on Monday. I've got a collection of ailments so feel like I wont be wasting their time with just the one. I reckon I may have a broken toe as well and I'll be interested in what he says about my shin where I took a ball full on and the whole of my leg swelled up and was brusied all the way down to my feet yet the ball hit me just below the knee.

How's yours going - are you still active or are you resting it?
 
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nah ive been playing/working...no rest for a 30yr old with 4 billy lids.....

in melb we have a new comp called winter cricket played on the synthetic pitches i take 3 anti inflams(we call em magic tick tacks haha) before i play and it seems to get me through.....played today a little sore but not unbearable......played last weekend made a 50* and bowled 7 overs of meds and pulled up quite fine.........i still need to get it checked though......last time i went to a podiatrist she told me to stretch and ice and a bit of deep heat also.....the thing that made the pain a little easier was to get a bottle (2 ltr) of water freeze it and use this as an ice treatment......roll it up and down the arch for 10- 15 mins this worked well for me........maybe try this dude.....

cheers
 
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weapons05/06;404028 said:
nah ive been playing/working...no rest for a 30yr old with 4 billy lids.....

in melb we have a new comp called winter cricket played on the synthetic pitches i take 3 anti inflams(we call em magic tick tacks haha) before i play and it seems to get me through.....played today a little sore but not unbearable......played last weekend made a 50* and bowled 7 overs of meds and pulled up quite fine.........i still need to get it checked though......last time i went to a podiatrist she told me to stretch and ice and a bit of deep heat also.....the thing that made the pain a little easier was to get a bottle (2 ltr) of water freeze it and use this as an ice treatment......roll it up and down the arch for 10- 15 mins this worked well for me........maybe try this dude.....

cheers
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I've given the rolling bottle a go before, but not for that long, I'll give that a go along with all the other stuff, cheers.
 
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I seem to have improved my situation with this by using a couple approaches. First thing in the morning as soon as I get up I massage the tendons/muscles between the ball of the foot and the heel, inside the arch and along the outer edge of the foot. I then hold the foot pulling the toes towards my shins which stretches the under-side of the foot. Do this fairly gently a few times and massage again and then bend the foot the other way. This for me has improved the initial pain situation by about 95% it's almost non existent.

In addition if you're doing any activities stretch before and after doing the step stretch. I also think in the past I may have been over-stretching as I'm doing it far more gently than previously. Then if there is pain after exercise - freezing cold ice baths. I've also found that wearing those horrific 'Crocs' shoes a help too.
 
Update on this, the improvement with this is on-going, I'd say that I've had a 95% + improvement with my PF. I only ever seem to get mild discomfort now from possibly being on my feet for extended periods. Playing cricket on tarmac isn't a problem any more and I've not had to use an Ice bath since the summer. Very gentle stretching may be the solution alongside the massage before standing up. The test will come next season when I start running around again, but I'll be looking to ease into exercise fairly gently building up towards the first matches and I'm doing regular gentle stretches as an on-going staying loose through the winter thing.
 
I'm not so sure, this is our best chance in decades and I'm sure our boys will looking to take the advantage and your lot look like they're in a state of flux at a crucial time. I reckon it'll be a close run thing, but we'll just do it.
 
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