Rules Changes - Dvca

[Declaration Bowler]

Not really DB. Remember we all sign forms at the start of the season saying cricket is dangerous blah blah blah and pay our membership fees to our respective clubs? That is basically a 'voluntary assumption of risk', where you sign away your legal right to sue for damages for injuries you may suffer as a result of playing cricket. For a junior it is no different, except for a parent or guardian can and must sign for them, as you cannot make nor enforce a contract with a minor. However, any medical expenses to any club member injured on the field or at training, would be covered by the clubs sports insurance.

Think about it this way; a young batsmen goes out in Barcley Shield and gets hit in the body and breaks a rib or takes one to the arm and breaks it. It's no different to a young bowler having 10 overs and hurting his back or doing his knee in this his medical bills would be covered by the clubs insurance, but there is no right to sue for damages due to the fact his parent(s) or guardian has signed the appropriate form and paid for his membership.

As a matter of law, I would be surprised if the disclaimers (often signed in the absence of informed consent) are worth the paper they're written on in any serious case of negligence or wrongdoing by the club or its agents, but that's by the by.
However, neither they nor the principles of voluntary assumption of risk would protect anyone legally in a case where the comp/club has consciously and deliberately chosen to ignore the best available expert and peak body advice, and thus increased the risk of injury. It is also highly likely that, in the case of a serious (read expensive) injury to a young fast bowler, the insurance companies will, on the same basis, also reject all claims for any form of compensation.
The batsman's case, and the knee injury, are legally different because they are normal risks of the game to which the principles of voluntary assumption of risk would normally apply; the overuse-back injuries are not, because they occur as a result of failure/refusal to follow known, established and available best practice, and that failure/refusal has increased the risk beyond the norm.

 

[_Blackhawk_]

Were there any rule changes of significance Wednesday night?

 

[brutal]

Were there any rule changes of significance Wednesday night?

I understand the unlimited overs for young spin bowlers playing senior cricket was passed in the affirmative.

 

[Warwick Todd]

I understand the unlimited overs for young spin bowlers playing senior cricket was passed in the affirmative.

Not unlimited. They can bowl their maximum daily overs in one spell.

 

[brutal]

Not unlimited. They can bowl their maximum daily overs in one spell.

Only going by what Davo told me yesterday. Sounds a bit strange that! So they can bowl up to 20 overs in one spell depending on age? Sounds like a restriction you have when you don't have a restriction! What if they choose to bowl half there daily allocation in one spell, can they come back whenever they like or do they have to wait an allocated amount of overs before returning?

 

[Underarm28]

Will E Grade be 68 or 80 overs?

 

[_Blackhawk_]

So I guess that would be no to my question.

 

[Ex Prez]

Will E Grade be 68 or 80 overs?

80 overs for BS, MS, B, C & D
68 overs the rest - E and below.

 

[Underarm28]

80 overs for BS, MS, B, C & D
68 overs the rest - E and below.

Absolute rubbish. E Grade should be 80 overs. For most clubs with their senior team in Money Sheild, this Grade will be their third team. Need to have the full overs. Even should use the 4 piece ball similar to the balled used in D Grade.

 

[gnippe]

Absolute rubbish. E Grade should be 80 overs. For most clubs with their senior team in Money Sheild, this Grade will be their third team. Need to have the full overs. Even should use the 4 piece ball similar to the balled used in D Grade.

I disagree. Thirds and below is where most players are just playing for social and enjoyment reasons or are junior players moving up through the grades. 80 overs is too long for a large proportion of those players and does not encourage the participation that cricket is lacking.
E grade for some clubs has the potential to be their 4ths or 5ths. I would argue that even D grade could benefit from playing 68 overs rather than 80.

 

[WanderingUnity]

I disagree. Thirds and below is where most players are just playing for social and enjoyment reasons or are junior players moving up through the grades. 80 overs is too long for a large proportion of those players and does not encourage the participation that cricket is lacking.
E grade for some clubs has the potential to be their 4ths or 5ths. I would argue that even D grade could benefit from playing 68 overs rather than 80.

Agree - when most 4th's sides, or even 3rd's, are made up of old blokes and many young kids, it is very difficult to find 80 overs of bowlers to get the job done on a long hot summer day. Throw in a bloke (1's quality) coming back from injury or filling in for a week, and massive scores can be easily chalked up after tea. This sort of cricket is demoralising for the 'social' cricketer and the young kids learning the craft.

 

[Underarm28]

Agree - when most 4th's sides, or even 3rd's, are made up of old blokes and many young kids, it is very difficult to find 80 overs of bowlers to get the job done on a long hot summer day. Throw in a bloke (1's quality) coming back from injury or filling in for a week, and massive scores can be easily chalked up after tea. This sort of cricket is demoralising for the 'social' cricketer and the young kids learning the craft.

After the reallocation of Grades, most D Grade teams are now in E Grade and will be playing less cricket.

Even if it is social cricket, we give up our Saturdays to play cricket, and as an older cricketer, we need to toughen up he younguns.

Also creates an issue when the E Grade and below teams finish upto an hour before the senior grades, man players will go home leavin clurooms bare by 6.15.



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[_Blackhawk_]

While I agree that players and kids need to harden up or take up knitting Underarm, it's not the difference in overs that is the killer, it's the large gap between skill levels which is most detrimental. Using our club as an example last season, is playing another 12 overs of F grade cricket going to prepare a younger player to be promoted to B grade? It's only an extra hour of cricket or even less at our seconds over rate.

 

[Opener2]

Or they could hang around and watch their 1s and 2s?

After the reallocation of Grades, most D Grade teams are now in E Grade and will be playing less cricket.

Even if it is social cricket, we give up our Saturdays to play cricket, and as an older cricketer, we need to toughen up he younguns.

Also creates an issue when the E Grade and below teams finish upto an hour before the senior grades, man players will go home leavin clurooms bare by 6.15..