Several Fast Bowling Questions
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My hips were not causing me much trouble. The fact is that I altered the action in order to get further forward and less up into the air. I feel that jumping too far high is wasted energy and that going further forward helps build rhythm and pace.
What do you mean by the skip with my left foot? I thought the action all looked textbook from side on, the way I have altered it.
Liz Ward said:
My hips were not causing me much trouble. The fact is that I altered the action in order to get further forward and less up into the air. I feel that jumping too far high is wasted energy and that going further forward helps build rhythm and pace.
What do you mean by the skip with my left foot? I thought the action all looked textbook from side on, the way I have altered it.
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I am glad to hear that your hips were not causing you pain Manee; it means I can be more harsh
You really do need to correct your posture; not just during bowling but always, including when you walk. Stand up straight, shoulders back, shoulder blades down towards your back pockets, chin parallel to the ground and push your neck to the back of your collar. (I always knew the years in the Marines would come in handy one day 
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The poor posture of young guys has huge implications, not only to performance but also injury and longevity.
You were right to move forward rather than upwards; it was wasting quite a bit of your energy. It was also causing you problems on landing.
As for the 'skip', check seconds 18, 46 and 1.16 of your video. At the end of your run up, just before the bowl, you suspend momentum for a fraction of a second. You need to work on continued momentum right the way through to follow through.
Apart from that little nitch, it all looks better, you can increase speed when you are comfortable with it. However, do try and get a front on video so that I can check the hip/knee/ankle kinematics.
I am glad to hear that your hips were not causing you pain Manee; it means I can be more harsh
You really do need to correct your posture; not just during bowling but always, including when you walk. Stand up straight, shoulders back, shoulder blades down towards your back pockets, chin parallel to the ground and push your neck to the back of your collar. (I always knew the years in the Marines would come in handy one day )The poor posture of young guys has huge implications, not only to performance but also injury and longevity.
You were right to move forward rather than upwards; it was wasting quite a bit of your energy. It was also causing you problems on landing.
As for the 'skip', check seconds 18, 46 and 1.16 of your video. At the end of your run up, just before the bowl, you suspend momentum for a fraction of a second. You need to work on continued momentum right the way through to follow through.
Apart from that little nitch, it all looks better, you can increase speed when you are comfortable with it. However, do try and get a front on video so that I can check the hip/knee/ankle kinematics.
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I'll try and correct my posture. I will get a front on video when this sore throat clears and it stops pouring down with rain. I cannot visibly see the 'skip' but I know what you mean, from feeling and it has been the thing I have been trying to correct.
I am quite happy with the length of my stride, if I do say so myself, but must also brace that front leg.
Thank you.
Liz Ward said:I am glad to hear that your hips were not causing you pain Manee; it means I can be more harsh
The poor posture of young guys has huge implications, not only to performance but also injury and longevity.
You were right to move forward rather than upwards; it was wasting quite a bit of your energy. It was also causing you problems on landing.
As for the 'skip', check seconds 18, 46 and 1.16 of your video. At the end of your run up, just before the bowl, you suspend momentum for a fraction of a second. You need to work on continued momentum right the way through to follow through.
Apart from that little nitch, it all looks better, you can increase speed when you are comfortable with it. However, do try and get a front on video so that I can check the hip/knee/ankle kinematics.
I'll try and correct my posture. I will get a front on video when this sore throat clears and it stops pouring down with rain. I cannot visibly see the 'skip' but I know what you mean, from feeling and it has been the thing I have been trying to correct.
I am quite happy with the length of my stride, if I do say so myself, but must also brace that front leg.
Thank you.
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:cursing: i am an angry man :cursing:
I know a foolish boy, who wants to bowl fast, but will not listen to some advice that I give him.
I would appreciate if someone could tell me if I am talking complete nonsense
I tell this clown that leaning back is a vital part of bowling...
Leaning back allows the bowler to put more body into the delivery....and when I say lean back, I do not mean javelin thrower lean back.
The genuine quicks all lean back to some extent before release - Lee, Steyn, Akhtar and Tait.
When bowling you need to keep your weight back for as long as possible, and your body/back should only start coming down into the action after your bowling arm has just passed your head, and just released the ball - generating a chest drive.
This fool has weight distrubution all wrong...and has his head leaning forward during his jump
Hangtime needs to minimal - very few people possess good natural hangtime - and if you dont have it, you lose all momentum gained from the run up, and you are just jumping up. So you should use the jump as a means to get side on/front on and to load up the action before release
Bowl of your feet - fast bowlers should literally be throwing themselves of there feet. He is too conserved.
I think planting the front foot is all wrong aswell...I believe that the front foot should be used as a kind of pivot, and should be where yoiu transfer your body weight into the delivery.
he is a very naive child - someone please tell me I am right
:cursing: i am an angry man :cursing:
I know a foolish boy, who wants to bowl fast, but will not listen to some advice that I give him.
I would appreciate if someone could tell me if I am talking complete nonsense
I tell this clown that leaning back is a vital part of bowling...
Leaning back allows the bowler to put more body into the delivery....and when I say lean back, I do not mean javelin thrower lean back.
The genuine quicks all lean back to some extent before release - Lee, Steyn, Akhtar and Tait.
When bowling you need to keep your weight back for as long as possible, and your body/back should only start coming down into the action after your bowling arm has just passed your head, and just released the ball - generating a chest drive.
This fool has weight distrubution all wrong...and has his head leaning forward during his jump
Hangtime needs to minimal - very few people possess good natural hangtime - and if you dont have it, you lose all momentum gained from the run up, and you are just jumping up. So you should use the jump as a means to get side on/front on and to load up the action before release
Bowl of your feet - fast bowlers should literally be throwing themselves of there feet. He is too conserved.
I think planting the front foot is all wrong aswell...I believe that the front foot should be used as a kind of pivot, and should be where yoiu transfer your body weight into the delivery.
he is a very naive child - someone please tell me I am right
I
imported_swinger
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I think to bowl faster u have to work on moving faster at key positions.:
1- transition between back and front foot.
2- the time between front foot and release.
out of interest- elite javelin throwers average 0.15 for the former and 0.10 for the latter.
I think to bowl faster u have to work on moving faster at key positions.:
1- transition between back and front foot.
2- the time between front foot and release.
out of interest- elite javelin throwers average 0.15 for the former and 0.10 for the latter.
mas cambios
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I thought the post was a bit random, makes sense now!
manee said:
I thought the post was a bit random, makes sense now!
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leaning back does give u more pace but if u work on ur upper body strength u will get as much power as leaning back.
i used to lean back but i stopped now because when i leant back i used to get back problems
leaning back isnt that much of a need.house said:
leaning back does give u more pace but if u work on ur upper body strength u will get as much power as leaning back.
i used to lean back but i stopped now because when i leant back i used to get back problems
I
imported_swinger
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Really need to see your backfoot position. From the looks of the oval clips you are twisting your shoulders side on.
Really need to see your backfoot position. From the looks of the oval clips you are twisting your shoulders side on.
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I went to school nets today and it went okay. I bowled with good pace considering the run up allowed for four strides and a jump. I got the odd ball to move in but I had my life long problem of dragging far too many down the leg side, in what feel like my quickest deliveries. Do you simplycricket members think I should look to bowl with a more round arm action to simultaneously exploit this pace when I drag the ball down combined with inswing or will the inconsistency never leave me if I choose such an action?
Overall, I bowled okay and got good bounce. However, I am still not at the pace I want to reach by the summer. I tried a braced front leg for a few deliveries, but noticed that it was hard to complete the action and the leg sorta stopped my movement. This could be due to a lack of run up though.
I had quite bad back soreness toward the end of the session but had a contrast shower as soon as I got in for five minutes (3 hot, 2 cold) and although the stiffness remains, it does not hurt anymore.
EDIT: I got hit on the ankle lump bone when batting. The bowler was not fast, but I find that I can barely walk now. Would freeze spray and rest be the best action?
I went to school nets today and it went okay. I bowled with good pace considering the run up allowed for four strides and a jump. I got the odd ball to move in but I had my life long problem of dragging far too many down the leg side, in what feel like my quickest deliveries. Do you simplycricket members think I should look to bowl with a more round arm action to simultaneously exploit this pace when I drag the ball down combined with inswing or will the inconsistency never leave me if I choose such an action?
Overall, I bowled okay and got good bounce. However, I am still not at the pace I want to reach by the summer. I tried a braced front leg for a few deliveries, but noticed that it was hard to complete the action and the leg sorta stopped my movement. This could be due to a lack of run up though.
I had quite bad back soreness toward the end of the session but had a contrast shower as soon as I got in for five minutes (3 hot, 2 cold) and although the stiffness remains, it does not hurt anymore.
EDIT: I got hit on the ankle lump bone when batting. The bowler was not fast, but I find that I can barely walk now. Would freeze spray and rest be the best action?
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Had a net session with the club today and did not bowl too well. None of my first five balls pitched on the mat, missing on the leg side. I have always had a leg side problem, but it is safe to say that I had never missed the mat once before and it was certainly a shock.
I was wondering what could possibly cause the ball to go down the leg side. I feel that it may be a misunderstanding in my action. When you twist from side on to front on, doesn't the bowling arm and body go in a rounded motion toward the leg side?
My main question is how to bowl off your feet. I have seen all the great fast bowlers (and L.Balaji) do it, but can't seem to do it. I understand that perhaps my front foot landing is part of the problem, but can any fast bowler or someone with knowledge of biomechanics help me out here.
Had a net session with the club today and did not bowl too well. None of my first five balls pitched on the mat, missing on the leg side. I have always had a leg side problem, but it is safe to say that I had never missed the mat once before and it was certainly a shock.
I was wondering what could possibly cause the ball to go down the leg side. I feel that it may be a misunderstanding in my action. When you twist from side on to front on, doesn't the bowling arm and body go in a rounded motion toward the leg side?
My main question is how to bowl off your feet. I have seen all the great fast bowlers (and L.Balaji) do it, but can't seem to do it. I understand that perhaps my front foot landing is part of the problem, but can any fast bowler or someone with knowledge of biomechanics help me out here.
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I know this answer is going to frustrate you Manee but without seeing a video, front on, including your feet, we would be working in the dark. It would really not be any help if we kept throwing different suggestions at you. We need to see what you are doing incorrectly [if anything], isolate it and then correct it.
manee said:
I know this answer is going to frustrate you Manee but without seeing a video, front on, including your feet, we would be working in the dark. It would really not be any help if we kept throwing different suggestions at you. We need to see what you are doing incorrectly [if anything], isolate it and then correct it.