Mr cricket1
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Better curator then you!
Subbies Thread
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Better curator then you!
A very interesting post. I am sure the Yarraville CC would like some of the $500K to be spent in compensating it for the many thousands of dollars it has outlaid in replacing/repairing the antiquated pile of junk the local council handed over when, in 2004, it withdrew from curating for all clubs within its municipality. You will understand even reconditioned rollers and cylinder mowers are a big outlay for a cricket club. Although the club's curator is an employee of the municipality he, (like the curator at Sunshine), must curate outside of his Council hours and fully at the club's expense. As Yarraville has a separate curator for McIvor it incurs 2 lots of curating fees and, as the case at Sunshine, has 2 lots of equipment to maintain and fuel. Just thought you may be interested in what a subbies club must face on fully taking over responsibility for pitch preparation (and in future no dividend to allay the cost). I was told the other day Balwyn forks out $16K to its municipality for pitch preparation of its 2 grounds. It seems that, either way, fielding 4 teams on 2 grounds is not cheap.
He has to be a better club-appointed curator than I ever was as there is no way I would tackle what he is doing. That is, curating both Dempster and Lloyd outside of the hours demanded of his full-time job and all for a lousy $7K !! Dempster Park alone is worth that much. I am advised the club claims it cannot afford to pay more, yet has had how many English imports this year? Next, I suppose you will try to convince the curator they are all playing with the club for the love of the game. If he were to swallow that, he will be as gullible as you (and that's being kind to you I think).
Super Saint
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At the Saints, we have been doing our decks for some time. It is a balance between getting good decks done and paying out a commensurate amount to do so.
It is fundamental to each club and the one thing that money needs to go into. No good whingeing about costs if you go out and pay a handfull.
The alternative is to go out and fundraise, something I know a lot of clubs DO NOT do. There are certainly ways to bring in extra funds, my experience, especially with the younger brigade, is they can't be bothered! Probably a reason why cricket struggles.
Super Saint
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They were the away team, think they got washed out.
Your club hosted 2 Country Week matches despite being reliant on a part-time curator. If the club adequately compensated the curator for the additional work, why, given none of your teams were involved in these matches? More likely, his experience was the same as mine over the years in that I was simply taken for granted, never being paid a cent yet, all the time being aware the umpires were being well paid by the organising authorities to officiate on Country Week pitches I had prepared for free. Never did I ask the clubs to compensate me, because never did I consider it was their responsibility incur the cost.
Super Saint
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Part of Subbies is hosting Country Week. We certainly ensure that we reimburse our curator for the work he does. We certainly never take it for granted.
Whilst I can't comment on council prepared pitches, at the Saints we certainly assist our curator: whether that be rolling pitches, watering or assisting in other ways. Unfortunately, I think that most cricketers think a prepared pitch is a right.
I have today been told there is a serious rift involving the subbies and VCCL delegates to CV to the extent the delegates have walked out on discussions with CV. It is related to disagreement on the allocation of money. Given Phil O'Meara's connection with the Saints and he being a subbies delegate, I figured if anyone can throw more light on this it would be you. Have you heard about this matter?
Mr cricket1
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Will there be subbies in 2 years time????
Super Saint
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Subbies & VCCL walked out?
I know CV weren't happy with Subbies questioning the set up and that's why Phil got the boot. Not sure of the above matter.
Have any of you saying CV will win the battle actually read the document? Fair to say there will need to be a lot of water go under the bridge before this proposal gets close to being ticked off. Looks like a Grade 6 assignment that is factually incorrect.
Thanks SS. Couple of questions-- As Phil got the boot, who from the subbies has replaced him? Can I access the document online without becoming a HeraldSun subscriber and, if so, please advise the procedure? Pls don't bag me asking for help-- I am the only one of my fellow septuagenarian friends who has a pc/smartphone ( we are battlers and not the sharpest tools in the shed out here in the west!). BTW, I agree with your observation the younger generation do not have the level of committment to volunteerism and club loyalty of their predecessors. Local footy clubs have the same experience.
Super Saint
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No problems mate, sorry if it looked like I was having a go, certainly wasn't.
No one replaced Phil, it was more a case of CV not being happy with Subbies and getting rid of that element.
Not sure about the document, as I am on the committee, it was forwraded to us to give Subbies our thoughts. I am not sure if it is to be made fully public, I will find out.
Young Willi Lad
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There is nothing stopping subbies from going alone and not taking part in the CV revised Metro Comp.
It's not like after the agreed term we are ever going to see another cent of the CV dividend.
It's not like after the agreed term we are ever going to see another cent of the CV dividend.
Round the grounds
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Agree. Sounds like what subbies put to CV was subbies, so not sure there is an appetite for change at VSDCA level or club level. Therefore, you have to ask why change?