Young Willi Lad
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I hear 6 in total from the 11 that played in the semi last year.
N. Allen, M. Allen, Geisler, Rogers (premier), Buhagiar and Mwayenga.
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Word on the street is all of N.Allen, M.Allen and Geisler gone from Melton. Anyone heard similar?
I hear 6 in total from the 11 that played in the semi last year.
N. Allen, M. Allen, Geisler, Rogers (premier), Buhagiar and Mwayenga.
Aren't you only allowed to pay 2 players........................................Of the above, I am advised Geisler is in discussion with Darley. Don't know where the Allen's are headed. My info is that the club's major sponsor over recent years wished to be president and he walked when the existing pres would not stand down resulting in the club not being as flush with funds as it once was.
Yeap. Good call. Agree 100% and there is certainly much value add with any cricket forum and 99% of this forum is conducted within the right spirit. However, I have too much respect for the Melton Cricket Club and both their Administration and playing personnel to not pass comment that I feel current conversation going down a tactless path.
However, if it’s going to take this current tact, let’s remove the cloak of anonymity with aliases and openly share information we know about all clubs within our peer universe. Would all be happy if their own club was opened to the same level of scrutiny and public opinion?
If a cricket forum is to hypothesise as to how many players get paid, cast aspersions, engage in and spread rumour and innuendo let’s set the boundaries now but I would suggest this a path that no cricket forum wants to go down with no winners at either a club or individual level.
Ben, was a light hearted commYeap. Good call. Agree 100% and there is certainly much value add with any cricket forum and 99% of this forum is conducted within the right spirit. However, I have too much respect for the Melton Cricket Club and both their Administration and playing personnel to not pass comment that I feel current conversation going down a tactless path.
However, if it’s going to take this current tact, let’s remove the cloak of anonymity with aliases and openly share information we know about all clubs within our peer universe. Would all be happy if their own club was opened to the same level of scrutiny and public opinion?
If a cricket forum is to hypothesise as to how many players get paid, cast aspersions, engage in and spread rumour and innuendo let’s set the boundaries now but I would suggest this a path that no cricket forum wants to go down with no winners at either a club or individual level.
Ben, was a light hearted joke. But the post does beg the question if the money has gone why have 6 blokes walked out? Might be good reason.Yeap. Good call. Agree 100% and there is certainly much value add with any cricket forum and 99% of this forum is conducted within the right spirit. However, I have too much respect for the Melton Cricket Club and both their Administration and playing personnel to not pass comment that I feel current conversation going down a tactless path.
However, if it’s going to take this current tact, let’s remove the cloak of anonymity with aliases and openly share information we know about all clubs within our peer universe. Would all be happy if their own club was opened to the same level of scrutiny and public opinion?
If a cricket forum is to hypothesise as to how many players get paid, cast aspersions, engage in and spread rumour and innuendo let’s set the boundaries now but I would suggest this a path that no cricket forum wants to go down with no winners at either a club or individual level.
Ben, was a light hearted comm
Ben, was a light hearted joke. But the post does beg the question if the money has gone why have 6 blokes walked out? Might be good reason.
The last thing I would do is have a go at another club, but the sooner the points system comes in, the better.
Fully agree. What I strongly disagree with is Ben's view we should voluntarily restrict our right to free speech. For example, if people at Melton disagree with recent posts on this forum they are perfectly entitled to exercise their right to free speech by posting their views on this forum.
Ben, why haven't the subbies introduced a player points system? It is clearly more transparent. It is the lack of transparency of the existing provisions that is the cause of the ribald mirth evident on posts on this page. Has your club raised the issue of introducing a player points system and, if not, will it consider doing so? As my initial post on this page was devoid of inferences I do not think I have overstepped the mark. Although I have never been connected with Melton, I have favourably known Kevin Vernon for more years than both of us would care to remember.
Agree with your last comment Ben, you need to build a side with a far chunk of local/young talent that have some commitment to the club. If not, then if you lose the names one year, you have a big hole!The introduction of a Player Points system was proposed to VSDCA Affiliates some years ago and the concept was overwhelmingly defeated.
A Player Points system is not a silver bullet solution to anything. Premier Cricket introduced this model a few years ago and, following the introduction of said system, many clubs are trading in the red.
The Player Points system is as open to manipulation (anyone who understands the nuances of the system will understand what I an saying with this regard).
My personal view is that I would abolish reference within the VSDCA Rules to 2 paid players and openly allow a free market economy (this stops all innuendo as any club can do as they wish - let's be honest, it is as happens now anyway).
Cricket has changed in the last 10 years. 2 or 3 marquee players in the twilight of their career does not a Premiership team make. If you have role playing athletes who can run between wickets and can field - you can start a game 40 to 60 runs ahead of the opposition.
You do not need names and you do not need spend money to enjoy success.
People can contend otherwise and mock the unique view of approach I have on list management but the fact is that using this "money ball" role playing approach to list management with a non-negotiable requirement on athleticism resulted in a RPBCC 1st XI (with an average age of less than 21) finishing as minor Premiers and 3 wickets away from a Premiership in the season past.
The fact is, in 2015, I would rather an elite fielding side of 17 to 21yo's who are hungry to further their career and thankful for the opportunies they have been presented than I would returning Premier players seeking a superannuation payment.
You can't on one hand (dismiss) talk about premier clubs trading in the red due to the points system and then on the other advocate a free market, it's contradictory. Look no further than local football to see how a lack of a cap on player payments can damage clubs and competitions. And then look at a "regulated" comp like the VAFA and the never ending speculation about who is on the take. The points system is e most transparent and I'd back that in every competition. It might revitalise the hatch comp too.The introduction of a Player Points system was proposed to VSDCA Affiliates some years ago and the concept was overwhelmingly defeated.
A Player Points system is not a silver bullet solution to anything. Premier Cricket introduced this model a few years ago and, following the introduction of said system, many clubs are trading in the red.
The Player Points system is as open to manipulation (anyone who understands the nuances of the system will understand what I an saying with this regard).
My personal view is that I would abolish reference within the VSDCA Rules to 2 paid players and openly allow a free market economy (this stops all innuendo as any club can do as they wish - let's be honest, it is as happens now anyway).
Cricket has changed in the last 10 years. 2 or 3 marquee players in the twilight of their career does not a Premiership team make. If you have role playing athletes who can run between wickets and can field - you can start a game 40 to 60 runs ahead of the opposition.
You do not need names and you do not need spend money to enjoy success.
People can contend otherwise and mock the unique view of approach I have on list management but the fact is that using this "money ball" role playing approach to list management with a non-negotiable requirement on athleticism resulted in a RPBCC 1st XI (with an average age of less than 21) finishing as minor Premiers and 3 wickets away from a Premiership in the season past.
The fact is, in 2015, I would rather an elite fielding side of 17 to 21yo's who are hungry to further their career and thankful for the opportunies they have been presented than I would returning Premier players seeking a superannuation payment.
The introduction of a Player Points system was proposed to VSDCA Affiliates some years ago and the concept was overwhelmingly defeated.
A Player Points system is not a silver bullet solution to anything. Premier Cricket introduced this model a few years ago and, following the introduction of said system, many clubs are trading in the red.
The Player Points system is as open to manipulation (anyone who understands the nuances of the system will understand what I an saying with this regard).
My personal view is that I would abolish reference within the VSDCA Rules to 2 paid players and openly allow a free market economy (this stops all innuendo as any club can do as they wish - let's be honest, it is as happens now anyway).
Cricket has changed in the last 10 years. 2 or 3 marquee players in the twilight of their career does not a Premiership team make. If you have role playing athletes who can run between wickets and can field - you can start a game 40 to 60 runs ahead of the opposition.
You do not need names and you do not need spend money to enjoy success.
People can contend otherwise and mock the unique view of approach I have on list management but the fact is that using this "money ball" role playing approach to list management with a non-negotiable requirement on athleticism resulted in a RPBCC 1st XI (with an average age of less than 21) finishing as minor Premiers and 3 wickets away from a Premiership in the season past.
The fact is, in 2015, I would rather an elite fielding side of 17 to 21yo's who are hungry to further their career and thankful for the opportunies they have been presented than I would returning Premier players seeking a superannuation payment.