Under what conditions should cricket be cancelled

[cheer_cheer]

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I suppose we need to be careful, but how much duty of care does the GCA have. What if it was an ordinary weekend of cricket, say 25 degrees, and in of the sides there was an extremely unfit 50 year old that was playing his first game for 10 years. He runs around a bit and has a heart attack ?? Is it up to the GCA to do a medical on all players ? I don't think so, but where would there duty of care be in this situation. I understand the 40 plus degree issue but if you are playing 1st/2nd XI cricket in the GCA then it should be something you can cope with. Of course you are going to be doing things a bit tougher than normal, but with plenty of fluids you should get through. Our oldest guy in the turf sides, and probably one of the oldest playing turf in the GCA Bushy Thompson would play through anything, so if he is up to playing tomorrow then most guys should be. And the major point is that if you have a rule set in stone then it might be different but this is an adhoc ruling which has been just brought in over the last two weeks.

 

[a for effort]

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Are you sure that this was an on-the-spot decision? I got the impression (wrongly or otherwise) that this rule has been around for a while but it wasn't until this week that everyone was made aware of it. And like Renny says, it's a CV directive to make sure the conditions are safe for play, not just the GCA sitting around in their underground lair thinking up ways to spoil the fun.

 

[SHANEBOURNEorWARNE]

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I'm not to sure what the BPCA stance is on this, I guess with it being a cricket Victoria and VCCL rule it will effect us also.

If play goes on what will clubs be doing in terms of batting on after scores are past? surely no club would keep batting for the sake of it. Not even East Belmont would do that would they?

To be honest if it's going to be 44 I'd much rather be kicking back in the pool having a Pina Colada

 

[cheer_cheer]

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There is a CV directive about extreme weather which does not actually mention what temp things should be cancelled. It has the following line in the directive which can be interpreted as you like.

On days where the temperature is extremely hot at midday, serious consideration should
be given to abandoning the day’s play. Member associations should reserve the right to
cancel all play when extreme temperatures are forecast. A time for the notification of the
cancellation of a day’s play should be included in local rules

 

[Renny24]

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There is a CV directive about extreme weather which does not actually mention what temp things should be cancelled. It has the following line in the directive which can be interpreted as you like.

On days where the temperature is extremely hot at midday, serious consideration should
be given to abandoning the day’s play. Member associations should reserve the right to
cancel all play when extreme temperatures are forecast. A time for the notification of the
cancellation of a day’s play should be included in local rules

There you go; in black and white. If 44 isn't extreme; i'm not sure what is, considering the all-time record in over 100 years of record-keeping in Geelong is 45.

 

[a for effort]

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From BOM

Weather Situation

A strong cold front will reach the far southwest of the state around midday Saturday, then gradually move eastwards across Victoria, clearing the northeast early Sunday morning.

Would suggest it won't be hot all day. Forecast is for low 20's on sunday.

 

[thommy_rissole]

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There you go; in black and white. If 44 isn't extreme; i'm not sure what is, considering the all-time record in over 100 years of record-keeping in Geelong is 45.

Has the GCA imposed their own line on the VCCL ruling by saying "as at 9am Saturday if the temperature is forecast to peak 40C all games to be cancelled"?

If so; what on earth, apart from the obvious 1 degree, is the difference between 39C and 40C.

If i'm playing cricket, I couldn't tell the difference between 39C and 40C.
Yet we are allowed to play at 39C but not allowed to play at 40C

 

[a for effort]

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Has the GCA imposed their own line on the VCCL ruling by saying "as at 9am Saturday if the temperature is forecast to peak 40C all games to be cancelled"?

If so; what on earth, apart from the obvious 1 degree, is the difference between 39C and 40C.

If i'm playing cricket, I couldn't tell the difference between 39C and 40C.
Yet we are allowed to play at 39C but not allowed to play at 40C

What metric would you use to determine whether it is too hot or not, other than the temperature? There needs to be a discrete value, not just "It feels pretty hot out let's call it off".

 

[ants14]

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Well I just got an email, I coach the Under 13 saturday morning side.

All Junior Saturday Morning Cricket has been officially Cancelled.Can all coaches please advise their respective players. This was just confirmed by email and phone conversation with Junior president rob Cameron.

So I guess Juniors are off for the morning, which I am happy about because was going to have to go to Teesdale. Start the day earlier tomorrow in Seniors?

 

[crktluva]

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i think this hot weather policy should be up to captains on the day, and if not agreeable, umpire rules. umpires need to keep in mind though how long before a result will be reached, ie, chasing 150 and 3/110 overnight, play until result then stop. same the other way for bowling side 250 on the board and theyre 5/60, common sense should prevail. if a game is evenly poised and too hot, call it off. if a result can be reached without physical harm to players then play. its always those with a losing chance that wanna quit, we owuld all play in 40 deg if we knew we would win.

 

[mdf30586]

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shoodnt call it off at all due to heat. its a summer sport

 

[thommy_rissole]

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What metric would you use to determine whether it is too hot or not, other than the temperature? There needs to be a discrete value, not just "It feels pretty hot out let's call it off".

There doesn't need to be any distinct temperature because Senior Men's cricket should not be called off due to "hot" weather, period.

A possible scenario:

A team needs to win the final 2 day match of the season to make the finals, the weather is anticipated as maximum 43C on the second day with an early cool change, match gets abandoned. Cool change eventuates at 2pm, said team misses finals because of "extreme" weather.

FACE, GCA, EGG.

 

[ants14]

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What I don't understand is why it has never been an issue before?
Why has it all changed?

 

[cheer_cheer]

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the big sticking point for me is that Sunday has a forecast of 22 in Geelong. Warnambool's Saturday temperature is 36 degrees with a shower or two from late morning, while Colac's is 42 with a light shower or two from midday. This is all suggesting that around 2-3pm we might experience a drop in the temp in the Geelong region. If Sunday's forecast was 43 degrees also then you know you have no hope. I know it is going to get over 40 degrees tomorrow, but how long is it going to stay at 40 degrees ? Maybe another option would be to cancel all week's games this week and then play day 2 next weekend, and convert Round 12 to a one day game ?? An option, but how many wickets around Geelong could be brought up again for the next week. I know one which will be able to do that for sure.

 

[right arm medium]

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If heat is an issue for the gca, would it be an option to start the games at 3.00. Games then finish at 8.00.
Players will miss the hottest part of the day, and should be finished well before light is an issue.

 

[Renny24]

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If heat is an issue for the gca, would it be an option to start the games at 3.00. Games then finish at 8.00.
Players will miss the hottest part of the day, and should be finished well before light is an issue.

Decent idea in theory but far too late for them to do anything about that at present RAM.

 

[right arm medium]

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Update on GCA website from last week:

As the forecast for this weekend is again likely to be "Extremely Hot" the managament committee will be making a decision to whether play takes place at 9am Saturday morning. Please keep your eye on this website for announcement at around 9.30am Saturday morning.

On a side note: Geelong West and St Joeys play on Sunday.
If play is called off on Saturday, does the other fixture go ahead? Does it give any club an advantage?

 

[tim finnigan]

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What a ******* joke the GCA are!

Calling a turf game off because it is too hot. Imagine Football Geelong coming out and telling all the clubs that as of 9am Saturday morning they could call games of senior football off because it is too cold. It's a bloody embarassment.

Actually back in 2003 or 2004 there was a handful of games called off throughout the gfl,bfl and gdfl one week coz of the cold weather i remember it well coz bluey mcgrath got hypothermia at half time and couldn't play on probably cost us a finals spot. But i know from marshall's point of view it could end up being the difference bewteen staying in div2 or going down to div3, and for some clubs dropping down could prove disastorous, but 44 is fu@kin hot espicially after you've worked all morning.

 

[a for effort]

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Mrs. Weathergirl just said the cool change won't hit Geelong until about 6pm tomorrow

 

[supersaintjohnny]

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Update on GCA website from last week:

As the forecast for this weekend is again likely to be "Extremely Hot" the managament committee will be making a decision to whether play takes place at 9am Saturday morning. Please keep your eye on this website for announcement at around 9.30am Saturday morning.

On a side note: Geelong West and St Joeys play on Sunday.
If play is called off on Saturday, does the other fixture go ahead? Does it give any club an advantage?

44 is way too hot to be chasing a ball around for 5 hours. The administrators are mad if they don't call it off. Too hard on the older blokes in the lower grades, and if anyone had a look at their first and seconds there isnt to many athletes running around there either. A lot of blokes are carrying too much weight on them. I love playing the game as much as the next bloke, but come 3:30 when one of the big blokes in your side hits the deck grabbing their chest you will wish you had called it off.