VTCA Thread

[southern sledge]

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Brilliant post that

 

[southern sledge]

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Brilliant post that

 

[Mick Megne]

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im hoping that we will win with greats like lee elmore and greg doyle opening with the bat one of them in the top 5 batsmen in the comp so hopefully we can get are first win in a year would be great.




yours truly
the greg doyle fan club ( formerly known as the mario auciello fan club)

Forget being in the Greg Doyle fan club.Get back on the salami eating bandwagon and support the Mario Auciello fanclub. 8-49 .What an effort from a guy 74 years old.

 

[Mick Megne]

Re: VTCA Thread

im hoping that we will win with greats like lee elmore and greg doyle opening with the bat one of them in the top 5 batsmen in the comp so hopefully we can get are first win in a year would be great.




yours truly
the greg doyle fan club ( formerly known as the mario auciello fan club)

Forget being in the Greg Doyle fan club.Get back on the salami eating bandwagon and support the Mario Auciello fanclub. 8-49 .What an effort from a guy 74 years old.

 

[THEWEAPON]

Re: VTCA Thread

That's a very interesting 'interpretation' of events. I guess you also believe in Santa, the Easter Bunny and the 'little people....

it is isn't it - if you've ever seen someone get given not out, then go up to face the next ball, then get given out 2 minutes later i'm o monkeys uncle. Players from BOTH sides said it was a disgrace. Would be very interesting to see what would happen if it occured in a final.

 

[THEWEAPON]

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That's a very interesting 'interpretation' of events. I guess you also believe in Santa, the Easter Bunny and the 'little people....

it is isn't it - if you've ever seen someone get given not out, then go up to face the next ball, then get given out 2 minutes later i'm o monkeys uncle. Players from BOTH sides said it was a disgrace. Would be very interesting to see what would happen if it occured in a final.

 

[Red Ink No.8]

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Everyone's entitled to an opinion mate. Fair enough.

.....and I was 100% correct VaWD

 

[Red Ink No.8]

Re: VTCA Thread

Everyone's entitled to an opinion mate. Fair enough.

.....and I was 100% correct VaWD

 

[NorthClubsDontPayPlayers]

Re: VTCA Thread

it is isn't it - if you've ever seen someone get given not out, then go up to face the next ball, then get given out 2 minutes later i'm o monkeys uncle. Players from BOTH sides said it was a disgrace. Would be very interesting to see what would happen if it occured in a final.

Then why did the Keilor captain complain to the central umpire then, as stated in your first post?

 

[NorthClubsDontPayPlayers]

Re: VTCA Thread

it is isn't it - if you've ever seen someone get given not out, then go up to face the next ball, then get given out 2 minutes later i'm o monkeys uncle. Players from BOTH sides said it was a disgrace. Would be very interesting to see what would happen if it occured in a final.

Then why did the Keilor captain complain to the central umpire then, as stated in your first post?

 

[NorthClubsDontPayPlayers]

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A few things we learnt this week:

Yarraville are the real deal, O'Keefe is a gun and Baker is struggling under the strain of captaincy. Airport West are in a bit of trouble - they have 3 winnable games coming up but will need to win all 3. No doubt they wouldn't mind a bit more of a contribution from Jan, Jones, Magafas and Macumber.

For the first time in a long while, two South teams are in the top four. McKinnon, with only one loss have been a suprise, whilst Sth Caulfield continue to win. They have their biggest game of the year this week, and will need to make 250+ vs Sth Caulfield. As in, Mullaney or Ash Russell to make a hundred.

Royal Park are missing C Hillas big time. Anyone know why he is missing or when he is back? A massive win for Keilor yesterday which keeps their finals hopes alive.

 

[NorthClubsDontPayPlayers]

Re: VTCA Thread

A few things we learnt this week:

Yarraville are the real deal, O'Keefe is a gun and Baker is struggling under the strain of captaincy. Airport West are in a bit of trouble - they have 3 winnable games coming up but will need to win all 3. No doubt they wouldn't mind a bit more of a contribution from Jan, Jones, Magafas and Macumber.

For the first time in a long while, two South teams are in the top four. McKinnon, with only one loss have been a suprise, whilst Sth Caulfield continue to win. They have their biggest game of the year this week, and will need to make 250+ vs Sth Caulfield. As in, Mullaney or Ash Russell to make a hundred.

Royal Park are missing C Hillas big time. Anyone know why he is missing or when he is back? A massive win for Keilor yesterday which keeps their finals hopes alive.

 

[crazycricket]

Re: VTCA Thread

A few things we learnt this week:

Yarraville are the real deal, O'Keefe is a gun and Baker is struggling under the strain of captaincy. Airport West are in a bit of trouble - they have 3 winnable games coming up but will need to win all 3. No doubt they wouldn't mind a bit more of a contribution from Jan, Jones, Magafas and Macumber.

For the first time in a long while, two South teams are in the top four. McKinnon, with only one loss have been a suprise, whilst Sth Caulfield continue to win. They have their biggest game of the year this week, and will need to make 250+ vs Sth Caulfield. As in, Mullaney or Ash Russell to make a hundred.

Royal Park are missing C Hillas big time. Anyone know why he is missing or when he is back? A massive win for Keilor yesterday which keeps their finals hopes alive.

bit harsh on macumber and magafas their mate, both have scored over 250 runs for the season. jones and jan havent been at their best but still scored over 150. wickets wise, jan and jones have taken 14 and 15 each. they havent been dominant, but still contributing.

 

[crazycricket]

Re: VTCA Thread

A few things we learnt this week:

Yarraville are the real deal, O'Keefe is a gun and Baker is struggling under the strain of captaincy. Airport West are in a bit of trouble - they have 3 winnable games coming up but will need to win all 3. No doubt they wouldn't mind a bit more of a contribution from Jan, Jones, Magafas and Macumber.

For the first time in a long while, two South teams are in the top four. McKinnon, with only one loss have been a suprise, whilst Sth Caulfield continue to win. They have their biggest game of the year this week, and will need to make 250+ vs Sth Caulfield. As in, Mullaney or Ash Russell to make a hundred.

Royal Park are missing C Hillas big time. Anyone know why he is missing or when he is back? A massive win for Keilor yesterday which keeps their finals hopes alive.

bit harsh on macumber and magafas their mate, both have scored over 250 runs for the season. jones and jan havent been at their best but still scored over 150. wickets wise, jan and jones have taken 14 and 15 each. they havent been dominant, but still contributing.

 

[Vicious and Well Directed]

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.....and I was 100% correct VaWD

Well done champ, give yourself a gold star and a pat on the back. In case it isn't obvious by now, I am a shocking judge of cricket.

Looks like it was a belter of a game out at Hansen. Good to see some Suoth sides doing well in Senior. Can't see a South team joining from Senior A though, still think it is a race in 3.

 

[Vicious and Well Directed]

Re: VTCA Thread

.....and I was 100% correct VaWD

Well done champ, give yourself a gold star and a pat on the back. In case it isn't obvious by now, I am a shocking judge of cricket.

Looks like it was a belter of a game out at Hansen. Good to see some Suoth sides doing well in Senior. Can't see a South team joining from Senior A though, still think it is a race in 3.

 

[thatsnotmyname]

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That's a very interesting 'interpretation' of events. I guess you also believe in Santa, the Easter Bunny and the 'little people....

the royal park batsmen was completly on top and keilor were struggling,

he cut one behind point and came back for two, as he approached the crease the keeper knocked one bail off without the ball and then took the ball and dislodged the other bail after.

the umpire at square leg admitted being unsighted but could see a bail on the ground and assumed both bails were off and immediately gave the batsmen not out.

then, jodi hutchinson carried on saying there was one bail still on and that the player can still be run out.

the square leg confirmed with the central umpire that the bail was still on and gave the batsmen out over a minute after giving him not out..

the question has to be asked how can he give that player out when he admitted he couldnt see the stumps being broken,how could he tell the batsmen was out of his ground at the time the second bail came off if he admitted he couldnt see the stumps at all????

if any doubt the decision has to favor the batsmen and in this case their was plenty of doubt.

it was poorly handled and the umpires were blatantly talked into giving him out because it was an ex district player ranting and raving at them.

An absolute disgrace!

 

[thatsnotmyname]

Re: VTCA Thread

That's a very interesting 'interpretation' of events. I guess you also believe in Santa, the Easter Bunny and the 'little people....

the royal park batsmen was completly on top and keilor were struggling,

he cut one behind point and came back for two, as he approached the crease the keeper knocked one bail off without the ball and then took the ball and dislodged the other bail after.

the umpire at square leg admitted being unsighted but could see a bail on the ground and assumed both bails were off and immediately gave the batsmen not out.

then, jodi hutchinson carried on saying there was one bail still on and that the player can still be run out.

the square leg confirmed with the central umpire that the bail was still on and gave the batsmen out over a minute after giving him not out..

the question has to be asked how can he give that player out when he admitted he couldnt see the stumps being broken,how could he tell the batsmen was out of his ground at the time the second bail came off if he admitted he couldnt see the stumps at all????

if any doubt the decision has to favor the batsmen and in this case their was plenty of doubt.

it was poorly handled and the umpires were blatantly talked into giving him out because it was an ex district player ranting and raving at them.

An absolute disgrace!

 

[cherried_lid]

Re: VTCA Thread

it is isn't it - if you've ever seen someone get given not out, then go up to face the next ball, then get given out 2 minutes later i'm o monkeys uncle. Players from BOTH sides said it was a disgrace. Would be very interesting to see what would happen if it occured in a final.

was the next ball bowled was it?
isn't that the job of two umpires, to confer when confused about a particualr decison, you see it all the time in international cricket...
what was the decision for?
a catch??

 

[cherried_lid]

Re: VTCA Thread

it is isn't it - if you've ever seen someone get given not out, then go up to face the next ball, then get given out 2 minutes later i'm o monkeys uncle. Players from BOTH sides said it was a disgrace. Would be very interesting to see what would happen if it occured in a final.

was the next ball bowled was it?
isn't that the job of two umpires, to confer when confused about a particualr decison, you see it all the time in international cricket...
what was the decision for?
a catch??

 

[ImpartialOnlooker]

Re: VTCA Thread

more controversy in a Keilor game.... starting to get a little repetitive....

 

[ImpartialOnlooker]

Re: VTCA Thread

more controversy in a Keilor game.... starting to get a little repetitive....

 

[THEWEAPON]

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was the next ball bowled was it?
isn't that the job of two umpires, to confer when confused about a particualr decison, you see it all the time in international cricket...
what was the decision for?
a catch??

The next ball was not bowled - but the bowler was at his mark and the batsmen was facing up. The square leg umpire, if in doubt should have spoken to the central umpire immediately (as they do if they question a catch carrying etc). This was not done - Instead, he gave it not out and play was to continue. It wasnt until the captain spoke to the central umpire, that the umpires conferred. Then, square leg CHANGED his decision. Therefore, he had no doubt it was not out - but was forced to change his decision when the captain complained. If the umpires confer straight away to discuss whatever doubt there is, fair enough, but i dont see how the central umpire can have input to make square leg change his mind.

 

[THEWEAPON]

Re: VTCA Thread

was the next ball bowled was it?
isn't that the job of two umpires, to confer when confused about a particualr decison, you see it all the time in international cricket...
what was the decision for?
a catch??

The next ball was not bowled - but the bowler was at his mark and the batsmen was facing up. The square leg umpire, if in doubt should have spoken to the central umpire immediately (as they do if they question a catch carrying etc). This was not done - Instead, he gave it not out and play was to continue. It wasnt until the captain spoke to the central umpire, that the umpires conferred. Then, square leg CHANGED his decision. Therefore, he had no doubt it was not out - but was forced to change his decision when the captain complained. If the umpires confer straight away to discuss whatever doubt there is, fair enough, but i dont see how the central umpire can have input to make square leg change his mind.

 

[cherried_lid]

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The next ball was not bowled - but the bowler was at his mark and the batsmen was facing up. The square leg umpire, if in doubt should have spoken to the central umpire immediately (as they do if they question a catch carrying etc). This was not done - Instead, he gave it not out and play was to continue. It wasnt until the captain spoke to the central umpire, that the umpires conferred. Then, square leg CHANGED his decision. Therefore, he had no doubt it was not out - but was forced to change his decision when the captain complained. If the umpires confer straight away to discuss whatever doubt there is, fair enough, but i dont see how the central umpire can have input to make square leg change his mind.

ahk, sounds interesting...
u say forced, to change his decision. by whom??
central can't see the crease, and a captain of any team would ask why he wasn't given out if a bail was still on and he was out of his ground...
but i do see ur point...

 

[cherried_lid]

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The next ball was not bowled - but the bowler was at his mark and the batsmen was facing up. The square leg umpire, if in doubt should have spoken to the central umpire immediately (as they do if they question a catch carrying etc). This was not done - Instead, he gave it not out and play was to continue. It wasnt until the captain spoke to the central umpire, that the umpires conferred. Then, square leg CHANGED his decision. Therefore, he had no doubt it was not out - but was forced to change his decision when the captain complained. If the umpires confer straight away to discuss whatever doubt there is, fair enough, but i dont see how the central umpire can have input to make square leg change his mind.

ahk, sounds interesting...
u say forced, to change his decision. by whom??
central can't see the crease, and a captain of any team would ask why he wasn't given out if a bail was still on and he was out of his ground...
but i do see ur point...

 

[THEWEAPON]

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ahk, sounds interesting...
u say forced, to change his decision. by whom??
central can't see the crease, and a captain of any team would ask why he wasn't given out if a bail was still on and he was out of his ground...
but i do see ur point...

He gave it not out - central obviously said a bail was still on, after their captain approached him and told him. Therefore, square leg changed his decision due to the influence of the captain and central umpire. IF he had doubt from the start, he should have asked - but he didnt....... so he was forced into changing his decision.

 

[THEWEAPON]

Re: VTCA Thread

ahk, sounds interesting...
u say forced, to change his decision. by whom??
central can't see the crease, and a captain of any team would ask why he wasn't given out if a bail was still on and he was out of his ground...
but i do see ur point...

He gave it not out - central obviously said a bail was still on, after their captain approached him and told him. Therefore, square leg changed his decision due to the influence of the captain and central umpire. IF he had doubt from the start, he should have asked - but he didnt....... so he was forced into changing his decision.

 

[THEWEAPON]

Re: VTCA Thread

A few things we learnt this week:

Yarraville are the real deal, O'Keefe is a gun and Baker is struggling under the strain of captaincy. Airport West are in a bit of trouble - they have 3 winnable games coming up but will need to win all 3. No doubt they wouldn't mind a bit more of a contribution from Jan, Jones, Magafas and Macumber.

For the first time in a long while, two South teams are in the top four. McKinnon, with only one loss have been a suprise, whilst Sth Caulfield continue to win. They have their biggest game of the year this week, and will need to make 250+ vs Sth Caulfield. As in, Mullaney or Ash Russell to make a hundred.

Royal Park are missing C Hillas big time. Anyone know why he is missing or when he is back? A massive win for Keilor yesterday which keeps their finals hopes alive.[/QUOT

Saw C Hillas at the Keilor game - he was limping around. Don't know whats wrong, but see he has missed a few games this year. Also noticed Maurice didnt play on sat too, and another player with a broken arm was watching - not sure who it was. Anyhow, made it a little easier for bopper to smash em around.

 

[THEWEAPON]

Re: VTCA Thread

A few things we learnt this week:

Yarraville are the real deal, O'Keefe is a gun and Baker is struggling under the strain of captaincy. Airport West are in a bit of trouble - they have 3 winnable games coming up but will need to win all 3. No doubt they wouldn't mind a bit more of a contribution from Jan, Jones, Magafas and Macumber.

For the first time in a long while, two South teams are in the top four. McKinnon, with only one loss have been a suprise, whilst Sth Caulfield continue to win. They have their biggest game of the year this week, and will need to make 250+ vs Sth Caulfield. As in, Mullaney or Ash Russell to make a hundred.

Royal Park are missing C Hillas big time. Anyone know why he is missing or when he is back? A massive win for Keilor yesterday which keeps their finals hopes alive.[/QUOT

Saw C Hillas at the Keilor game - he was limping around. Don't know whats wrong, but see he has missed a few games this year. Also noticed Maurice didnt play on sat too, and another player with a broken arm was watching - not sure who it was. Anyhow, made it a little easier for bopper to smash em around.

 

[NorthClubsDontPayPlayers]

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Looking like the RPB of old on Saturday, would want to hope they get both C Hillas and Maurice back or else I would definetly cross them off the list as not being able to win a Senior final.

With the 11 they had against Keilor on Saturday, if Contessa were to get a 50/50 decision I couldn't see the others being good enough to get them over the line.

With 3 rounds to go the key games are :

Round 9: Sth Caulfield v Yarraville
Round 10: McKinnon v Sth Caulfield
Round 11: Airport West v Keilor
Round 11: RPB v McKinnon

My predicted Top Four
Yarraville (win all 3 remaining)
RPB (providing they get a few back, should win all 3)
Sth Caulfield (lose to Yarraville this week, beat McKinnon then a big win v
Youlden in the last round)
Airport West (Win all 3 remaining)

 

[NorthClubsDontPayPlayers]

Re: VTCA Thread

Looking like the RPB of old on Saturday, would want to hope they get both C Hillas and Maurice back or else I would definetly cross them off the list as not being able to win a Senior final.

With the 11 they had against Keilor on Saturday, if Contessa were to get a 50/50 decision I couldn't see the others being good enough to get them over the line.

With 3 rounds to go the key games are :

Round 9: Sth Caulfield v Yarraville
Round 10: McKinnon v Sth Caulfield
Round 11: Airport West v Keilor
Round 11: RPB v McKinnon

My predicted Top Four
Yarraville (win all 3 remaining)
RPB (providing they get a few back, should win all 3)
Sth Caulfield (lose to Yarraville this week, beat McKinnon then a big win v
Youlden in the last round)
Airport West (Win all 3 remaining)

 

[ImpartialOnlooker]

Re: VTCA Thread

Looking like the RPB of old on Saturday, would want to hope they get both C Hillas and Maurice back or else I would definetly cross them off the list as not being able to win a Senior final.

With the 11 they had against Keilor on Saturday, if Contessa were to get a 50/50 decision I couldn't see the others being good enough to get them over the line.

With 3 rounds to go the key games are :

Round 9: Sth Caulfield v Yarraville
Round 10: McKinnon v Sth Caulfield
Round 11: Airport West v Keilor
Round 11: RPB v McKinnon

My predicted Top Four
Yarraville (win all 3 remaining)
RPB (providing they get a few back, should win all 3)
Sth Caulfield (lose to Yarraville this week, beat McKinnon then a big win v
Youlden in the last round)
Airport West (Win all 3 remaining)

Sounds fair... although McKinnon V Sth Caulfield could go either way....

 

[ImpartialOnlooker]

Re: VTCA Thread

Looking like the RPB of old on Saturday, would want to hope they get both C Hillas and Maurice back or else I would definetly cross them off the list as not being able to win a Senior final.

With the 11 they had against Keilor on Saturday, if Contessa were to get a 50/50 decision I couldn't see the others being good enough to get them over the line.

With 3 rounds to go the key games are :

Round 9: Sth Caulfield v Yarraville
Round 10: McKinnon v Sth Caulfield
Round 11: Airport West v Keilor
Round 11: RPB v McKinnon

My predicted Top Four
Yarraville (win all 3 remaining)
RPB (providing they get a few back, should win all 3)
Sth Caulfield (lose to Yarraville this week, beat McKinnon then a big win v
Youlden in the last round)
Airport West (Win all 3 remaining)

Sounds fair... although McKinnon V Sth Caulfield could go either way....

 

[cherried_lid]

Re: VTCA Thread

He gave it not out - central obviously said a bail was still on, after their captain approached him and told him. Therefore, square leg changed his decision due to the influence of the captain and central umpire. IF he had doubt from the start, he should have asked - but he didnt....... so he was forced into changing his decision.

sort of like getting a catch wrong and calling the batsmen back, except this worked in the opposite direction.
there is precedence for it happening but, not necessarily in that order..., umpires changing there mind that is...

 

[cherried_lid]

Re: VTCA Thread

He gave it not out - central obviously said a bail was still on, after their captain approached him and told him. Therefore, square leg changed his decision due to the influence of the captain and central umpire. IF he had doubt from the start, he should have asked - but he didnt....... so he was forced into changing his decision.

sort of like getting a catch wrong and calling the batsmen back, except this worked in the opposite direction.
there is precedence for it happening but, not necessarily in that order..., umpires changing there mind that is...

 

[ImpartialOnlooker]

Re: VTCA Thread

sort of like getting a catch wrong and calling the batsmen back, except this worked in the opposite direction.
there is precedence for it happening but, not necessarily in that order..., umpires changing there mind that is...

This is not the precedence we want set tho. Umpires being firmly coerced into changing a decision by a player.
The preference would be for umpires to make the correct decision in the first place so this doesnt occur but we all know that isnt going to captain.

 

[ImpartialOnlooker]

Re: VTCA Thread

sort of like getting a catch wrong and calling the batsmen back, except this worked in the opposite direction.
there is precedence for it happening but, not necessarily in that order..., umpires changing there mind that is...

This is not the precedence we want set tho. Umpires being firmly coerced into changing a decision by a player.
The preference would be for umpires to make the correct decision in the first place so this doesnt occur but we all know that isnt going to captain.

 

[THEWEAPON]

Re: VTCA Thread

Looking like the RPB of old on Saturday, would want to hope they get both C Hillas and Maurice back or else I would definetly cross them off the list as not being able to win a Senior final.

With the 11 they had against Keilor on Saturday, if Contessa were to get a 50/50 decision I couldn't see the others being good enough to get them over the line.

With 3 rounds to go the key games are :

Round 9: Sth Caulfield v Yarraville
Round 10: McKinnon v Sth Caulfield
Round 11: Airport West v Keilor
Round 11: RPB v McKinnon

My predicted Top Four
Yarraville (win all 3 remaining)
RPB (providing they get a few back, should win all 3)
Sth Caulfield (lose to Yarraville this week, beat McKinnon then a big win v
Youlden in the last round)
Airport West (Win all 3 remaining)

I predict the top 2 to remain the same - Yarraville PRB. They both have 2 easy games, 1 tough one.

The next 2 spots are too hard to call - however i hope the Keilor boys get in there and give it a crack. Scotty Porter and O'Keefe could then shape the finals.

 

[THEWEAPON]

Re: VTCA Thread

Looking like the RPB of old on Saturday, would want to hope they get both C Hillas and Maurice back or else I would definetly cross them off the list as not being able to win a Senior final.

With the 11 they had against Keilor on Saturday, if Contessa were to get a 50/50 decision I couldn't see the others being good enough to get them over the line.

With 3 rounds to go the key games are :

Round 9: Sth Caulfield v Yarraville
Round 10: McKinnon v Sth Caulfield
Round 11: Airport West v Keilor
Round 11: RPB v McKinnon

My predicted Top Four
Yarraville (win all 3 remaining)
RPB (providing they get a few back, should win all 3)
Sth Caulfield (lose to Yarraville this week, beat McKinnon then a big win v
Youlden in the last round)
Airport West (Win all 3 remaining)

I predict the top 2 to remain the same - Yarraville PRB. They both have 2 easy games, 1 tough one.

The next 2 spots are too hard to call - however i hope the Keilor boys get in there and give it a crack. Scotty Porter and O'Keefe could then shape the finals.