West Indies In New Zealand 2013/14
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futureblackcap
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So Shillingford has been banned from bowling in international cricket full stop. This is a joke. There has been way worse than him... Murlidaran *cough couch*. I'd say Kane Williamson is more of a chucker than him for godness sake!
http://www.espncricinfo.com/westindies/content/current/story/700733.html
http://www.espncricinfo.com/westindies/content/current/story/700733.html
Just clipping the stumps and looked close live? Never looked close, very good decision though. Our commentators aren't biased, they're c***, there's a difference.
McCullum and possibly Hesson need a clip behind the ears, win the toss and put a team in when they have the spinner that we have never been able to pick free to bowl last? Excluding the Narine factor our bowlers were struggling to get up for this one after a lot of bowling in the first 2 tests, seems funny now that the public reason for removing Taylor as captain was because he "...irritated the bowlers". If I was Boult I'd be using McCullum's kitbag as a portaloo.
NZ's not that great but bowling is not our problem, batting and how our bowlers are handled are the real issues.
troll3y
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Hadn't seen it until just then, but... yeah. Wow.
Even without Gayle for the Windies, this could be an explosive ODI and T20 series.
As for today's Test play, it looks like New Zealand's pacemen deserve a lot of credit as well as the innings being branded another Calypso Collapso. With Bravo out, there was need (and pressure) on Brathwaite, Powell (especially), and Edwards to show some firm solidarity while making runs. The bowling attack looks all wrong, and they can only get away with using Sammy as a frontliner because Narine is so effective. I keep wishing for the return of Roach/Edwards/Taylor, but in the meantime it would make more sense for Deonarine or Samuels* to play more of a spinner's role instead of Permaul, particularly with such brittle batting. The bottom line, though, is that each West Indian player just needs to solidify their basic skillset and play with grit and for the longevity of a Test innings.
* He can still bowl without that illegal variation, right? He should take after Swann and stick to the basic yet effective craft of off spin bowling. Both he and Deonarine have proved to be very effective wicket takers in the past, and if they can both handle the added pressure of acting as all-rounders, it would help avoid awkward selections such as the one in this game.
Named in the ODI squad!
Even without Gayle for the Windies, this could be an explosive ODI and T20 series.As for today's Test play, it looks like New Zealand's pacemen deserve a lot of credit as well as the innings being branded another Calypso Collapso. With Bravo out, there was need (and pressure) on Brathwaite, Powell (especially), and Edwards to show some firm solidarity while making runs. The bowling attack looks all wrong, and they can only get away with using Sammy as a frontliner because Narine is so effective. I keep wishing for the return of Roach/Edwards/Taylor, but in the meantime it would make more sense for Deonarine or Samuels* to play more of a spinner's role instead of Permaul, particularly with such brittle batting. The bottom line, though, is that each West Indian player just needs to solidify their basic skillset and play with grit and for the longevity of a Test innings.
* He can still bowl without that illegal variation, right? He should take after Swann and stick to the basic yet effective craft of off spin bowling. Both he and Deonarine have proved to be very effective wicket takers in the past, and if they can both handle the added pressure of acting as all-rounders, it would help avoid awkward selections such as the one in this game.
Demolition, should have been 3-0 if that damn rain hadn't interfered. Good signs for NZ but we all know that this is still just the start of a long road so I fully expect India will still beat us when they get here but at least we'll push them this time. Boult & Southee can bowl against anyone but we can't rely on wickets from Wagner & Sodhi which is a worry. The batting still looks vulnerable outside of Taylor & Williamson but there are signs of life after the Bangladesh debacle. The good news is that even if we fail badly against India there are players up and down the country waiting in the wings.
CancelledUser2014
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Muralitharan didn't chuck. He was within the 15 degrees limit set by the ICC! It looks like a throw, simply because he has an abnormal amount of flexibility in his shoulders and wrist. (Optical illusion) How can you judge him and call him a thrower when scientific research suggests otherwise? 99% of all bowlers throw to some extent, and I don't hear anyone calling Shane Warne a chucker, even though that's exactly what he was. (All leg spinners straighten their elbow with a few degrees when bowling a straight one) The ICC changed the rules so that everyone is allowed to flex their elbow and straighten it by 15 degrees, (anythng above 15 degrees can easily be indentified as a throw) Muralitharan never exceeded the 15 degrees. Besides, everyone is allowed the exact same elbow flex as him, so why aren't there more bowlers like him? Because it's difficult! Appreciate the brilliance of his skill !
troll3y
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I was trying to find them too. Sky Sports NZ usually does a Hawkeye runaround with a ruler of the ground dimensions before the match starts, but I wasn't watching the coverage anyway. Apparently, Eden Park gets to 51m at some parts and the QEC dimensions are comparably on the "cusp of legality".
