Wrist Spin Bowling (part Five)

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SLA said:
Only one thing you can do, set your field to give you protection where you need it and then back yourself to beat them either in the air or off the pitch.

Pick the battle you think you've got the best chance of winning. If you pitch it up they'll keep coming forward, but how long before you sneak a topspinner past the edge? If that's your thing, back yourself and go with it. If you combine big revs with variations in pace and topspin, you will succeed eventually
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This was exactly my plan, but the issue was when I got hit for 2-3 boundaries in the first over that was the end of it. and it doesn't help when your whole team is stacked with "Allrounders". I never even got to be in the zone in most matches, even in those games that I did really well.
 
Thivagar said:
This was exactly my plan, but the issue was when I got hit for 2-3 boundaries in the first over that was the end of it. and it doesn't help when your whole team is stacked with "Allrounders". I never even got to be in the zone in most matches, even in those games that I did really well.
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Yeah, first key in a T20 is to try to avoid going for boundaries. Watch the batsmen closely before you come on, figure out what their strengths and weaknesses are, and come up with a plan to combat this. Stay ahead of the game - remember you only automatically have the element of surprise for your first ball, which should always be full and at the stumps. After that, you have to keep the batsman guessing with constant variation. Changes in pace (start slower, go quicker), changes in line (at the pads or outside off), changes in angle (go wide on the crease, go tight), changes in spin (topspin, backspin, wrong'un). No two balls the same. Watch the batsman closely between balls and try to guess what his intentions are. Is he thinking about charging? Sweeping? Giving himself space to hit through cover? What shots is he unconsciously practicing? What boundary is he eyeing up? You just have to avoid giving him the ball he is looking for enough times to get through your set of six with no damage.

I would recommend never bowl more than 2 overs in a row as eventually even a good spinner with plenty of variations runs out of tricks up their sleeve. Ask for an early bowl in the first 10 overs, and then come off and back on later when two different batsmen are at the crease.

Its hard bowling in T20 - you need to be accurate whilst also varying every single delivery so the batsman never gets comfortable. But it can be done, and if you get it right, and your over goes for just a handful of scrambled singles, then its a great feeling.
 
Hello Guys,
i don't know wether i should be a pace bowler or leg spin bowler this season.
last season i bowled leg spin all season but during the off season i started lifting weights and gained strength.
now at the start of the season i have been bowling some pace bowling and i have gained some pace.
i want to be a spin bowler but becuase we play on artifical wickets it is hard to be a spin bowler becuase of the lack of turn.
can you guys help me so i have a clear decisive plan of what i am going to bowl this year??...
 
Ish Sodhi said:
Hello Guys,
i don't know wether i should be a pace bowler or leg spin bowler this season.
last season i bowled leg spin all season but during the off season i started lifting weights and gained strength.
now at the start of the season i have been bowling some pace bowling and i have gained some pace.
i want to be a spin bowler but becuase we play on artifical wickets it is hard to be a spin bowler becuase of the lack of turn.
can you guys help me so i have a clear decisive plan of what i am going to bowl this year??...
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I always say, if you're lucky enough to have the athletic ability and powerful and efficient bowling action to be able to bowl genuinely fast, then why would you do anything else?

Most people don't, hence the reason they learn to spin the ball, swing the ball, bowl tight lines etc.
 
Ish Sodhi said:
Hello Guys,
i don't know wether i should be a pace bowler or leg spin bowler this season.
last season i bowled leg spin all season but during the off season i started lifting weights and gained strength.
now at the start of the season i have been bowling some pace bowling and i have gained some pace.
i want to be a spin bowler but becuase we play on artifical wickets it is hard to be a spin bowler becuase of the lack of turn.
can you guys help me so i have a clear decisive plan of what i am going to bowl this year??...
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Why not do both and see how you go?

While practicing legspin probably won't help pace bowling, I think practicing pace bowling is no bad thing for a spin bowler. It cannot be an accident that so many great spin bowlers came from a pace bowling background.

Baseball pitchers do not suffer from the idea that one must either bowl this or that exclusively. They'll have their fastballs and curveballs and sinkers and whatnot and the more the merrier.

You might even want to have a crack at the 'Barnes ball', the leg-break at pace, which devastated batsmen many moons ago, and like the Loch Ness monster no film of it exists!
 
boogiespinner said:
Why not do both and see how you go?

While practicing legspin probably won't help pace bowling, I think practicing pace bowling is no bad thing for a spin bowler. It cannot be an accident that so many great spin bowlers came from a pace bowling background.

Baseball pitchers do not suffer from the idea that one must either bowl this or that exclusively. They'll have their fastballs and curveballs and sinkers and whatnot and the more the merrier.

You might even want to have a crack at the 'Barnes ball', the leg-break at pace, which devastated batsmen many moons ago, and like the Loch Ness monster no film of it exists!
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How was your season, boogiespinner? Many match winning 5-wicket hauls?
 
There is a new player at my academy and I'm having issue bowling leg spin to him. He is a compulsive sweeper but a very good one. He slog sweeps, paddle sweeps, you name any kind of sweep, he does it. I bowl at off stump, he goes across and sweeps, if I bowl outside off stump the motherf***er reverse sweeps with an ease. To add insult to the injury, after destroying me in every net session he always says "Very nice bowling bro" with the thickest Indian accent, walks over, sits down, eat lays and drinks pop. Help me out lol.
 
Thivagar said:
There is a new player at my academy and I'm having issue bowling leg spin to him. He is a compulsive sweeper but a very good one. He slog sweeps, paddle sweeps, you name any kind of sweep, he does it. I bowl at off stump, he goes across and sweeps, if I bowl outside off stump the motherf***er reverse sweeps with an ease. To add insult to the injury, after destroying me in every net session he always says "Very nice bowling bro" with the thickest Indian accent, walks over, sits down, eat lays and drinks pop. Help me out lol.
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I would suggest varying overspin and backspin (either flippers or sliders) in order to increase the chances of either skidding one through before he gets his bat on it (LBW) or getting a top edge which can be caught by those in close.
 
I remember bowling a while ago in the nets to a confident sweeper. I was just bowling one pace off a shortened distance and he wasn't wearing pads. I thought, I'll throw in a flipper, that'll get him. I bowled it, came out nicely. He played to sweep it but it skidded through and hit him square on the shin. He hopped around a bit. I felt mean :(
 
Thivagar said:
There is a new player at my academy and I'm having issue bowling leg spin to him. He is a compulsive sweeper but a very good one. He slog sweeps, paddle sweeps, you name any kind of sweep, he does it. I bowl at off stump, he goes across and sweeps, if I bowl outside off stump the motherf***er reverse sweeps with an ease. To add insult to the injury, after destroying me in every net session he always says "Very nice bowling bro" with the thickest Indian accent, walks over, sits down, eat lays and drinks pop. Help me out lol.
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Chris Bell gives good advice about mixing up your flight and pace, particularly topspin and backspin to try and get a top edge or lbw.

Its worth noting that your can simply set the field to defend against the sweep. Leg gully, deep fine leg, and deep square leg should do the trick.
 
boogiespinner said:
I remember bowling a while ago in the nets to a confident sweeper. I was just bowling one pace off a shortened distance and he wasn't wearing pads. I thought, I'll throw in a flipper, that'll get him. I bowled it, came out nicely. He played to sweep it but it skidded through and hit him square on the shin. He hopped around a bit. I felt mean :(
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For sure, varying pace and, if possible, overspin/underspin will make sweeping far more difficult. Essentially, when a batter is sweeping he is playing a premeditated shot. The main thing I do is keep the ball on or just outside offstump and vary pace and flight. Before too long, a compulsive sweeper will top edge one.
 
LOL the issue is i'm on the slower side of the my Spin bowling, even though I vary my pace, flight and dip he has enough time to pick and play.


Someone wanna be dick coach moron, made me sprint at full speed while I wasn't finished stretching, I pulled my hipflexor and the doc says I should even think about jogging for another 6 weeks. Man I was doing well this winter in nets, I got to bowl to very talented players and got the best out of most of them(unless I was bowling short or too full unintentionally). This injury put me off, I was in zone, getting praise and guys actually stayed back after practice to face me. From the age of 14 to about 23 I sucked big time, spent most of my years as a "specialist fielder", you know bat #11 and bowl 2-3 overs every 5-6 games. FInally I started picking up my groove 2 years ago. Damn, it is like always something bad happening when things are going well.
 
Rest up, eat well, do the physio. I don't know anything about this injury, but look into whether sitting in an ice bath will help. Not nice, but if it's in a part of the body where this will accelerate the healing the pain might be worth it?:
 
Here's a question. How unethical is it to get to a ground early or the day before and bowl a couple of balls across the wicket landing the ball in the zone you'll be bowling in? Not along the wicket... From the side - say from point of square leg just to see if it spins or not before the game?
 
Pretty sure landing a ball on the match strip from any direction is going to be frowned upon.

Can you not just bowl the ball down a neighbouring strip?
 
Thivagar said:
LOL the issue is i'm on the slower side of the my Spin bowling, even though I vary my pace, flight and dip he has enough time to pick and play.


Someone wanna be dick coach moron, made me sprint at full speed while I wasn't finished stretching, I pulled my hipflexor and the doc says I should even think about jogging for another 6 weeks. Man I was doing well this winter in nets, I got to bowl to very talented players and got the best out of most of them(unless I was bowling short or too full unintentionally). This injury put me off, I was in zone, getting praise and guys actually stayed back after practice to face me. From the age of 14 to about 23 I sucked big time, spent most of my years as a "specialist fielder", you know bat #11 and bowl 2-3 overs every 5-6 games. FInally I started picking up my groove 2 years ago. Damn, it is like always something bad happening when things are going well.
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While you wait for the injury to heal I suggest getting a collection of balls, twenty plus, then bowl them to an empty net from a standing start. And repeat. And repeat. I would bet that you will find this valuable practice and likely discover new things. You can bowl to batsmen too from a standing start from a reduced distance. This is my favourite way of practising.
 
Thanks for the suggestion guys, I'll start doing all of that and RIP my grammar and spelling. I was so out of it that I didn't know what the heck I was typing lol. This injury reminds me of Mike Tyson's famous quote "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth". In my head, I was getting a little cocky with my imagination, I was planning my progress and development. Definitely humbled me.
 
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