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schwab2clarkson;273522 said:
Hey I agree with you. I believe that we are going to lose the series because our team isn't as strong as it use to be. Yes we are missing McGrath, Warne, Langer, Martyn, etc. But we can't be with those guys all the time. It's the same with the poms (your mob) Michael Vaughan couldn't go on and keep on playing.
It is a huge reality check for the team. They have never gone through losing a series for ages.
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Apart form one series win we have never played well in India even with all those great players . The way this game went was no suprise to me at all , it has just highlighted defencies in the side that so far we have been able to mask since those retirements against weaker opponants .

India showed last year here that they were always going to be a handle for us because they no have two world class front line quicks and as usual a quality spin attack .
 
Re: Australia in India

schwab2clarkson;273522 said:
Hey I agree with you. I believe that we are going to lose the series because our team isn't as strong as it use to be. Yes we are missing McGrath, Warne, Langer, Martyn, etc. But we can't be with those guys all the time. It's the same with the poms (your mob) Michael Vaughan couldn't go on and keep on playing.
It is a huge reality check for the team. They have never gone through losing a series for ages.
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Have to get Marsh in, bloke is a awesome bat. We are just wasting our time with Katich.
 
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Buddy23#;274090 said:
Have to get Marsh in, bloke is a awesome bat. We are just wasting our time with Katich.
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My Dream test squad
Shane Watson
Simon Katich
Ricky Ponting
Michael Hussey
Michael Clarke
Andrew Symonds
Brad Haddin
Cameron White
Brett Lee
Mitch Johnson
Stuart Clark
Peter Siddle
 
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schwab2clarkson;274119 said:
My Dream test squad
Shane Watson
Simon Katich
Ricky Ponting
Michael Hussey
Michael Clarke
Andrew Symonds
Brad Haddin
Cameron White
Brett Lee
Mitch Johnson
Stuart Clark
Peter Siddle
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My squad of 13

M.Hayden
S.Marsh
R.Ponting
M.Hussey
M.Clarke
D.Hussey
A.Symonds
L.Ronci
B.Lee
B.Mcgain(inj)
S.Clarke
M.Johnson
S.Tait
 
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Aust should fly Tait over ASAP to play in the third test, did anyone see he's spell against S.A in the FRC? 145-150km/h with a heap of reverse swing late in the inns 10-2-5-27
 
Re: Australia in India

Western Australian batsman Shaun Marsh will fly across to India as a replacement for the injured Phil Jaques. The call comes as Jaques was ruled out of the entire tour due to an ongoing back complaint which forced the New South Welshman to return home.

Marsh was the leading run scorer in the Indian Premier League held earlier this year and also played eight one-day games for Australia against West Indies and Bangladesh.

Marsh to replace injured Jaques

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Yes!! Marshy!! :D

Well done Shaun, well deserved. Probably won't play on the tour but it shows he is still very much in the minds of the selectors. His one-day and IPL form has certainly helped his cause.

Shouldn't be too much longer before Marsh is opening the batting in a test for Australia.
 
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I still think that they should put watson at the top of the order. I think that he is more of a batting all rounder than a bowling all rounder.
I don't think Shaun Marsh is ready for the test side. ODI's yes but tests no.
 
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schwab2clarkson;274280 said:
I think that the selectors should have picked Andrew Symonds. They are being rather unfair on him.
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Symonds is being disciplined for his actions. He should have went to that training despite it being an "optional" one.

Symonds isn't an opening batsman either. If he were to go over, he'd replace Watson.
 
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schwab2clarkson;274242 said:
I don't think Shaun Marsh is ready for the test side. ODI's yes but tests no.
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If you don't try him, then you'll never know. He may surprise everybody (one way or the other).
 
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Ljp86;274288 said:
Symonds is being disciplined for his actions. He should have went to that training despite it being an "optional" one.

Symonds isn't an opening batsman either. If he were to go over, he'd replace Watson.
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Plus he is in shit form

But it wasnt the training, it was the compulsory team meeting afterwards he missed
 
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eddiesmith;274299 said:
Plus he is in shit form
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Exactly.

eddiesmith said:
But it wasnt the training, it was the compulsory team meeting afterwards he missed
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Sorry, I thought the training session was the reason he was dropped. I wasn't aware that he missed a meeting.

Missing the training session wouldn't have helped. At such an elite level, there's no really no such thing as an "optional" training session.
 
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mas cambios;274295 said:
If you don't try him, then you'll never know. He may surprise everybody (one way or the other).
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I wouldn't have Symonds as an opening batsman, that's where watson steps in. Aussie team drops Hayden, and moves watson to the open the batting. Bring Andrew Symonds in as a specialist bowler, His off spin is awesome as well as his medium pacers.
Watson's bowling is shit at the moment.
 
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Ljp86;274288 said:
Symonds is being disciplined for his actions. He should have went to that training despite it being an "optional" one.

Symonds isn't an opening batsman either. If he were to go over, he'd replace Watson.
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We have already got an opening batsman and that is Shane Watson. He opens the batting in the ODI's and is in the right form.

Symonds missed a meeting which was scheduled at the last minute. It wasn't a training session. If anything Michael Clarke should be disciplined for his actions. I know more than what you do. I have got my contacts.
 
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schwab2clarkson;274308 said:
I wouldn't have Symonds as an opening batsman, that's where watson steps in. Aussie team drops Hayden, and moves watson to the open the batting. Bring Andrew Symonds in as a specialist bowler, His off spin is awesome as well as his medium pacers.
Watson's bowling is shit at the moment.
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Watson is just as unproven as Marsh at test level and if I'm honest I don't think he's a test opener. The two things that go in Watson's favour is that he already has experience of the test match environment (and India as well) and he can bowl a bit.

Symonds is out of the picture and though it may seem that Australia are cutting off their nose to spite their face, they need to send the message out to him (and others) that test cricket demands 110% dedication and commitment. Sure, the meeting was 'optional' but his non-attendance showed that he was not at the mental level required to be a team player, at least in the eyes of his peers.

Whilst some will not agree with what has happened (personally based on this one event he has been harshly treated, based on others that have allegedly occurred then it's the right course of action) it's important that everyone works as team or at least has the team in mind.

Referring to your post above and just out of interest, why would you discipline Michael Clarke (I think I can guess but would rather be 100% sure).
 
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schwab2clarkson;274309 said:
We have already got an opening batsman and that is Shane Watson. He opens the batting in the ODI's and is in the right form.
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Watson isn't an opening batsman. He may be a decent bat but he's no opener. One-Dayers are completely different to tests, Watson can attack early with very little repercussions knowing that Ponting and co are to come plus the field is up. Watson is a better one-day player than he is a test player, he'll never open the batting in tests.

schwab2clarkson said:
Symonds missed a meeting which was scheduled at the last minute. It wasn't a training session. If anything Michael Clarke should be disciplined for his actions. I know more than what you do. I have got my contacts.
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Regardless of whether he missed the last-minute meeting, he still missed a training session and despite the session being optional, Symonds still should have been there. Playing at such an elite level requires you to put in the time to improve yourself as a player, not go fishing and to me and to the selectors that demonstrates a poor attitude.

Symo's form has been average since the whole episode happened. He struggled against the Kolkata Knight Riders in the warm-up Twenty20's and he has been scratchy in his games for Queensland in both the Sheffield Shield and Ford Ranger Cup competitions. His form for Queensland would suggest that Watson is the in-form all-rounder at the present time.

Haha okay, what's your news on Clarke? What has he done?
 
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el-capitano;274436 said:
He picked Bingle over Suzi here- and she's never got over it! :D
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Nope way off the mark there.
Clarke called a compulsory meeting at the last minute when he knew that not everyone was going to be there.
It would have been nice if Andrew Symonds was told that there was going to be a meeting. He got told that there was one once it had finished.
 
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eddiesmith;274299 said:
Plus he is in shit form

But it wasnt the training, it was the compulsory team meeting afterwards he missed
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Which was scheduled at the last minute......
Symo is in shit form all because of his anger toward Michael Clarke.
The selectors are frustrated with Clarke as well. How in the hell are the selectors supposed to pick a team when the vice captain decides to ban one of the best players in the whole world, in Andrew Symonds?
 
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