Bonus Points on Averages
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Jolldo87
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Re: Bonus Points on Averages
I was going to hold some sort of vote count at the end of season.
Now that it has been bought up might as well discuss it. I'm not sure what happens on BigFooty but i was going to give 3 votes for the sim's man of the match and 2 and 1 would have just been my opinion.
I'm not sure what would be the best system to do this though.
Frodo;224935 said:
I was going to hold some sort of vote count at the end of season.
Now that it has been bought up might as well discuss it. I'm not sure what happens on BigFooty but i was going to give 3 votes for the sim's man of the match and 2 and 1 would have just been my opinion.
I'm not sure what would be the best system to do this though.
Young Gun #6
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Re: Bonus Points on Averages
So it just increses your batting average not how good you are
So it just increses your batting average not how good you are
Re: Bonus Points on Averages
What is the maximum amount of bonus points a player can have? 6 or Loyalty Points + x Bonus Points (LP + xBP)
Should bonus points be handed out for selection in the BigCricket International team? No.
Bonus points for State of Origin? No.
Bonus points for playing in a Premiership? Yes.
Player of the year points? Yes.
The loss of Bonus Points? Yes.
Loyalty Points? Yes, one point earned for every three seasons with the same club.
I think we should try and keep this as simple as we can for now. I don't want to see too many bonus points handed out. Bonus points should be earned through good work individually as well as work done as a team. They should also be moderately difficult to achieve, rewarding players for milestones reached during the season might make bonus points too easy to gain and hence would reduce their value, it would also see a range of players have them which adds to their value being reduced.
I would like to see points earned for playing in a premiership (both tests and one-dayers) as well as Player of the Year (Tests, one-dayers or both). One loyalty point would be earned for players playing in the same side for two or three seasons and then another point would be earned after season four or season six (dependent on Jolldo's sim) The last points would then go to the best poster on the board which could be voted on by admins, mods, captains or peers or a permutation of all four groups.
Frodo's idea for loyalty points and then x bonus points is a good one. I think x should be capped at either five or six and then the amount of loyalty points is then added onto the bonus ones (again dependent on Jolldo's sim).
As far as losing points in concerned, premiership points should be reduced at one point per year with all others reduced at one per year.
System
Test Premiership Player - 1
One-Day Premiership Player - 1
Test Player of the Year - 1
One-Day Player of the Year - 1
Overall Player of the Year - 1
Best Poster - 1
Loyalty Points - Dependent on loyalty to team.
That's a total of six points per year plus whatever loyalty points you have. A player could gain all six points on offer after season one but could potentially have only three after season two if they don't win both premierships and don't win either of the individual player awards or best poster.
That's the system I have in mind. Anyone have anything to add, perhaps adjustments to my system or someone elses or even a whole new system?
What is the maximum amount of bonus points a player can have? 6 or Loyalty Points + x Bonus Points (LP + xBP)
Should bonus points be handed out for selection in the BigCricket International team? No.
Bonus points for State of Origin? No.
Bonus points for playing in a Premiership? Yes.
Player of the year points? Yes.
The loss of Bonus Points? Yes.
Loyalty Points? Yes, one point earned for every three seasons with the same club.
I think we should try and keep this as simple as we can for now. I don't want to see too many bonus points handed out. Bonus points should be earned through good work individually as well as work done as a team. They should also be moderately difficult to achieve, rewarding players for milestones reached during the season might make bonus points too easy to gain and hence would reduce their value, it would also see a range of players have them which adds to their value being reduced.
I would like to see points earned for playing in a premiership (both tests and one-dayers) as well as Player of the Year (Tests, one-dayers or both). One loyalty point would be earned for players playing in the same side for two or three seasons and then another point would be earned after season four or season six (dependent on Jolldo's sim) The last points would then go to the best poster on the board which could be voted on by admins, mods, captains or peers or a permutation of all four groups.
Frodo's idea for loyalty points and then x bonus points is a good one. I think x should be capped at either five or six and then the amount of loyalty points is then added onto the bonus ones (again dependent on Jolldo's sim).
As far as losing points in concerned, premiership points should be reduced at one point per year with all others reduced at one per year.
System
Test Premiership Player - 1
One-Day Premiership Player - 1
Test Player of the Year - 1
One-Day Player of the Year - 1
Overall Player of the Year - 1
Best Poster - 1
Loyalty Points - Dependent on loyalty to team.
That's a total of six points per year plus whatever loyalty points you have. A player could gain all six points on offer after season one but could potentially have only three after season two if they don't win both premierships and don't win either of the individual player awards or best poster.
That's the system I have in mind. Anyone have anything to add, perhaps adjustments to my system or someone elses or even a whole new system?
G
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Re: Bonus Points on Averages
It increases the starting averages of batters by +1 and decreases bowling averages by -1 per bonus point, depending upon your player type.
In theory it gives a slight advantage to the player, but the sim utilises several random algorithms that can have much more significant effects. On BFFCL players with 5 BP's have been seen to have dismal performances. It is even thought that your player name has some effect. On player did worse when the administrator entered his name with a capital letter beginning, so being 'lucky bill' may be better or worse than 'Lucky Bill'.
But I think it's an incentive, and I'd like heaps
It increases the starting averages of batters by +1 and decreases bowling averages by -1 per bonus point, depending upon your player type.
In theory it gives a slight advantage to the player, but the sim utilises several random algorithms that can have much more significant effects. On BFFCL players with 5 BP's have been seen to have dismal performances. It is even thought that your player name has some effect. On player did worse when the administrator entered his name with a capital letter beginning, so being 'lucky bill' may be better or worse than 'Lucky Bill'.
But I think it's an incentive, and I'd like heaps
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Dirk Kuyt
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Re: Bonus Points on Averages
Simple but effective LJP. I like it.
Ljp86;225075 said:
Simple but effective LJP. I like it.
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Well, I've spent time on this subject. Came up with amazing stats like on BFFCL there have been 107 centuries in 140 games, 60 5 wicket innings in 140 games etc,. But I come up against huge discrepancies.
So my thoughts now are this :-
What is the maximum amount of bonus points a player can have? 5
Should bonus points be handed out for selection in the BigCricket International team? No, because it's an uneven playing field. Eg Two great wk's, only one can be selected.
Bonus points for State of Origin? No
Bonus points for playing in a Premiership? 1 per player in each form, 50% of games to be played.
Player of the year points? No. How can it be calculated?
The loss of Bonus Points? 1 per season if you have them (not loyalty). Balances the premiership points
Loyalty Points? Agree with the 1 for 2 seasons and 2 for 4 season.
Anything else is an uneven field. A captain selecting bowling pitches favours bowlers, and so on. The BFFCL best player stats don't reflect the pitch selections , so are unreasonable.
So, I reckon one point each for the champs of each competition and loyalty points as they come in, in later seasons.
Well, I've spent time on this subject. Came up with amazing stats like on BFFCL there have been 107 centuries in 140 games, 60 5 wicket innings in 140 games etc,. But I come up against huge discrepancies.
So my thoughts now are this :-
What is the maximum amount of bonus points a player can have? 5
Should bonus points be handed out for selection in the BigCricket International team? No, because it's an uneven playing field. Eg Two great wk's, only one can be selected.
Bonus points for State of Origin? No
Bonus points for playing in a Premiership? 1 per player in each form, 50% of games to be played.
Player of the year points? No. How can it be calculated?
The loss of Bonus Points? 1 per season if you have them (not loyalty). Balances the premiership points
Loyalty Points? Agree with the 1 for 2 seasons and 2 for 4 season.
Anything else is an uneven field. A captain selecting bowling pitches favours bowlers, and so on. The BFFCL best player stats don't reflect the pitch selections , so are unreasonable.
So, I reckon one point each for the champs of each competition and loyalty points as they come in, in later seasons.
Jolldo87
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Re: Bonus Points on Averages
I was going to hold some sort of vote count at the end of season.
Now that it has been bought up might as well discuss it. I'm not sure what happens on BigFooty but i was going to give 3 votes for the sim's man of the match and 2 and 1 would have just been my opinion.
I'm not sure what would be the best system to do this though.
Frodo;224935 said:
I was going to hold some sort of vote count at the end of season.
Now that it has been bought up might as well discuss it. I'm not sure what happens on BigFooty but i was going to give 3 votes for the sim's man of the match and 2 and 1 would have just been my opinion.
I'm not sure what would be the best system to do this though.
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Re: Bonus Points on Averages
These are the questions that need to be addressed:
What is the maximum amount of bonus points a player can have? 2 points. For international honours and POTY honours only.
Should bonus points be handed out for selection in the BigCricket International team? Yes. Points holders should be sporadically spread this way across all the teams.
Bonus points for State of Origin? No. SoO is dead!!! (In Cricket)
Bonus points for playing in a Premiership? No. It gives the whole side an advantage the next season. We don't need that sort of thing happening yet.
Player of the year points? Yes. Winner gets 1.
The loss of Bonus Points? Yes. After 1 season.
Loyalty Points? No. If there is a bidding system in place players are bound to move. IF things are different, yes.
These are the questions that need to be addressed:
What is the maximum amount of bonus points a player can have? 2 points. For international honours and POTY honours only.
Should bonus points be handed out for selection in the BigCricket International team? Yes. Points holders should be sporadically spread this way across all the teams.
Bonus points for State of Origin? No. SoO is dead!!! (In Cricket)
Bonus points for playing in a Premiership? No. It gives the whole side an advantage the next season. We don't need that sort of thing happening yet.
Player of the year points? Yes. Winner gets 1.
The loss of Bonus Points? Yes. After 1 season.
Loyalty Points? No. If there is a bidding system in place players are bound to move. IF things are different, yes.
Re: Bonus Points on Averages
What is the maximum amount of bonus points a player can have? 6 or Loyalty Points + x Bonus Points (LP + xBP)
Should bonus points be handed out for selection in the BigCricket International team? No.
Bonus points for State of Origin? No.
Bonus points for playing in a Premiership? Yes.
Player of the year points? Yes.
The loss of Bonus Points? Yes.
Loyalty Points? Yes, one point earned for every three seasons with the same club.
I think we should try and keep this as simple as we can for now. I don't want to see too many bonus points handed out. Bonus points should be earned through good work individually as well as work done as a team. They should also be moderately difficult to achieve, rewarding players for milestones reached during the season might make bonus points too easy to gain and hence would reduce their value, it would also see a range of players have them which adds to their value being reduced.
I would like to see points earned for playing in a premiership (both tests and one-dayers) as well as Player of the Year (Tests, one-dayers or both). One loyalty point would be earned for players playing in the same side for two or three seasons and then another point would be earned after season four or season six (dependent on Jolldo's sim) The last points would then go to the best poster on the board which could be voted on by admins, mods, captains or peers or a permutation of all four groups.
Frodo's idea for loyalty points and then x bonus points is a good one. I think x should be capped at either five or six and then the amount of loyalty points is then added onto the bonus ones (again dependent on Jolldo's sim).
As far as losing points in concerned, premiership points should be reduced at one point per year with all others reduced at one per year.
System
Test Premiership Player - 1
One-Day Premiership Player - 1
Test Player of the Year - 1
One-Day Player of the Year - 1
Overall Player of the Year - 1
Best Poster - 1
Loyalty Points - Dependent on loyalty to team.
That's a total of six points per year plus whatever loyalty points you have. A player could gain all six points on offer after season one but could potentially have only three after season two if they don't win both premierships and don't win either of the individual player awards or best poster.
That's the system I have in mind. Anyone have anything to add, perhaps adjustments to my system or someone elses or even a whole new system?
What is the maximum amount of bonus points a player can have? 6 or Loyalty Points + x Bonus Points (LP + xBP)
Should bonus points be handed out for selection in the BigCricket International team? No.
Bonus points for State of Origin? No.
Bonus points for playing in a Premiership? Yes.
Player of the year points? Yes.
The loss of Bonus Points? Yes.
Loyalty Points? Yes, one point earned for every three seasons with the same club.
I think we should try and keep this as simple as we can for now. I don't want to see too many bonus points handed out. Bonus points should be earned through good work individually as well as work done as a team. They should also be moderately difficult to achieve, rewarding players for milestones reached during the season might make bonus points too easy to gain and hence would reduce their value, it would also see a range of players have them which adds to their value being reduced.
I would like to see points earned for playing in a premiership (both tests and one-dayers) as well as Player of the Year (Tests, one-dayers or both). One loyalty point would be earned for players playing in the same side for two or three seasons and then another point would be earned after season four or season six (dependent on Jolldo's sim) The last points would then go to the best poster on the board which could be voted on by admins, mods, captains or peers or a permutation of all four groups.
Frodo's idea for loyalty points and then x bonus points is a good one. I think x should be capped at either five or six and then the amount of loyalty points is then added onto the bonus ones (again dependent on Jolldo's sim).
As far as losing points in concerned, premiership points should be reduced at one point per year with all others reduced at one per year.
System
Test Premiership Player - 1
One-Day Premiership Player - 1
Test Player of the Year - 1
One-Day Player of the Year - 1
Overall Player of the Year - 1
Best Poster - 1
Loyalty Points - Dependent on loyalty to team.
That's a total of six points per year plus whatever loyalty points you have. A player could gain all six points on offer after season one but could potentially have only three after season two if they don't win both premierships and don't win either of the individual player awards or best poster.
That's the system I have in mind. Anyone have anything to add, perhaps adjustments to my system or someone elses or even a whole new system?
G
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Re: Bonus Points on Averages
Some good points ONB. Certainly if there is trading then loyalty points should be for being in the competition for successive seasons.
Internationals are a sticky one, because deserving player may be unpickable. Eg if there are two great wk's or two great legspin bowlers, who are top posters. Well only one will get picked and get BP's.
So if we want to reward performance (playing and posting) I think we need another way.
Some good points ONB. Certainly if there is trading then loyalty points should be for being in the competition for successive seasons.
Internationals are a sticky one, because deserving player may be unpickable. Eg if there are two great wk's or two great legspin bowlers, who are top posters. Well only one will get picked and get BP's.
So if we want to reward performance (playing and posting) I think we need another way.
D
Dirk Kuyt
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Re: Bonus Points on Averages
Simple but effective LJP. I like it.
Ljp86;225075 said:
Simple but effective LJP. I like it.
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Re: Bonus Points on Averages
well it would be a squad so they all could be included couldnt they?
Frodo;225153 said:
well it would be a squad so they all could be included couldnt they?
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Re: Bonus Points on Averages
Normally 13 picked. That usually means a straight team plus a purebat and purebowler.
OHHHHHHH NO BALL!!;225182 said:
Normally 13 picked. That usually means a straight team plus a purebat and purebowler.
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Re: Bonus Points on Averages
These are the questions that need to be addressed:
What is the maximum amount of bonus points a player can have? 2 points. For international honours and POTY honours only.
Should bonus points be handed out for selection in the BigCricket International team? Yes. Points holders should be sporadically spread this way across all the teams.
Bonus points for State of Origin? No. SoO is dead!!! (In Cricket)
Bonus points for playing in a Premiership? No. It gives the whole side an advantage the next season. We don't need that sort of thing happening yet.
Player of the year points? Yes. Winner gets 1.
The loss of Bonus Points? Yes. After 1 season.
Loyalty Points? No. If there is a bidding system in place players are bound to move. IF things are different, yes.
These are the questions that need to be addressed:
What is the maximum amount of bonus points a player can have? 2 points. For international honours and POTY honours only.
Should bonus points be handed out for selection in the BigCricket International team? Yes. Points holders should be sporadically spread this way across all the teams.
Bonus points for State of Origin? No. SoO is dead!!! (In Cricket)
Bonus points for playing in a Premiership? No. It gives the whole side an advantage the next season. We don't need that sort of thing happening yet.
Player of the year points? Yes. Winner gets 1.
The loss of Bonus Points? Yes. After 1 season.
Loyalty Points? No. If there is a bidding system in place players are bound to move. IF things are different, yes.
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But we don't have to do that. A squad of 15 or 16 I think would be a better option.
Im of the opinion that we don't play any teams other than ourselves. Therefore we announce the squad of 15 or 16. Then do whatever happens in the off season, and start again. Players want to do well in this and if they don't they will leave as its no fun watching from the side.
Frodo;225190 said:
But we don't have to do that. A squad of 15 or 16 I think would be a better option.
Im of the opinion that we don't play any teams other than ourselves. Therefore we announce the squad of 15 or 16. Then do whatever happens in the off season, and start again. Players want to do well in this and if they don't they will leave as its no fun watching from the side.
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Re: Bonus Points on Averages
Some good points ONB. Certainly if there is trading then loyalty points should be for being in the competition for successive seasons.
Internationals are a sticky one, because deserving player may be unpickable. Eg if there are two great wk's or two great legspin bowlers, who are top posters. Well only one will get picked and get BP's.
So if we want to reward performance (playing and posting) I think we need another way.
Some good points ONB. Certainly if there is trading then loyalty points should be for being in the competition for successive seasons.
Internationals are a sticky one, because deserving player may be unpickable. Eg if there are two great wk's or two great legspin bowlers, who are top posters. Well only one will get picked and get BP's.
So if we want to reward performance (playing and posting) I think we need another way.
Jolldo87
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Re: Bonus Points on Averages
This is the general concences on Bonus Points, these will be the rules unless anyone has a major problem with it being done like this in which case it would need to be discussed.
What is the maximum amount of bonus points a player can have? 4 points, not including loyalty points. So the maximum a player may have at anyone time is 8 points which would have to include 4 loyalty points.
Should bonus points be handed out for selection in the BigCricket International team? No
Bonus points for State of Origin? No
Bonus points for playing in a Premiership? 1 point for everyone selected in the XI that has played at least 50% of the home and away games.
Player of the year points? 1 point for the overall player of the year, 1 point for the one day player of the year and 1 points for the test player of the year.
The loss of Bonus Points? One point lost per season, excluding loyalty points and all points lost for less than 50 posts in a season.
Loyalty Points? 1 for 2 seasons with the same club and 3 for four seasons with the same club.
This is the general concences on Bonus Points, these will be the rules unless anyone has a major problem with it being done like this in which case it would need to be discussed.
What is the maximum amount of bonus points a player can have? 4 points, not including loyalty points. So the maximum a player may have at anyone time is 8 points which would have to include 4 loyalty points.
Should bonus points be handed out for selection in the BigCricket International team? No
Bonus points for State of Origin? No
Bonus points for playing in a Premiership? 1 point for everyone selected in the XI that has played at least 50% of the home and away games.
Player of the year points? 1 point for the overall player of the year, 1 point for the one day player of the year and 1 points for the test player of the year.
The loss of Bonus Points? One point lost per season, excluding loyalty points and all points lost for less than 50 posts in a season.
Loyalty Points? 1 for 2 seasons with the same club and 3 for four seasons with the same club.
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Re: Bonus Points on Averages
well it would be a squad so they all could be included couldnt they?
Frodo;225153 said:
well it would be a squad so they all could be included couldnt they?
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Re: Bonus Points on Averages
Did I mention that the Kings are actually the Maggies with the name changed?
This is my 4th season with the "Maggies"
Did I mention that the Kings are actually the Maggies with the name changed?
This is my 4th season with the "Maggies"
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Re: Bonus Points on Averages
Normally 13 picked. That usually means a straight team plus a purebat and purebowler.
OHHHHHHH NO BALL!!;225182 said:
Normally 13 picked. That usually means a straight team plus a purebat and purebowler.
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Re: Bonus Points on Averages
But we don't have to do that. A squad of 15 or 16 I think would be a better option.
Im of the opinion that we don't play any teams other than ourselves. Therefore we announce the squad of 15 or 16. Then do whatever happens in the off season, and start again. Players want to do well in this and if they don't they will leave as its no fun watching from the side.
Frodo;225190 said:
But we don't have to do that. A squad of 15 or 16 I think would be a better option.
Im of the opinion that we don't play any teams other than ourselves. Therefore we announce the squad of 15 or 16. Then do whatever happens in the off season, and start again. Players want to do well in this and if they don't they will leave as its no fun watching from the side.
Jolldo87
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Re: Bonus Points on Averages
This is the general concences on Bonus Points, these will be the rules unless anyone has a major problem with it being done like this in which case it would need to be discussed.
What is the maximum amount of bonus points a player can have? 4 points, not including loyalty points. So the maximum a player may have at anyone time is 8 points which would have to include 4 loyalty points.
Should bonus points be handed out for selection in the BigCricket International team? No
Bonus points for State of Origin? No
Bonus points for playing in a Premiership? 1 point for everyone selected in the XI that has played at least 50% of the home and away games.
Player of the year points? 1 point for the overall player of the year, 1 point for the one day player of the year and 1 points for the test player of the year.
The loss of Bonus Points? One point lost per season, excluding loyalty points and all points lost for less than 50 posts in a season.
Loyalty Points? 1 for 2 seasons with the same club and 3 for four seasons with the same club.
This is the general concences on Bonus Points, these will be the rules unless anyone has a major problem with it being done like this in which case it would need to be discussed.
What is the maximum amount of bonus points a player can have? 4 points, not including loyalty points. So the maximum a player may have at anyone time is 8 points which would have to include 4 loyalty points.
Should bonus points be handed out for selection in the BigCricket International team? No
Bonus points for State of Origin? No
Bonus points for playing in a Premiership? 1 point for everyone selected in the XI that has played at least 50% of the home and away games.
Player of the year points? 1 point for the overall player of the year, 1 point for the one day player of the year and 1 points for the test player of the year.
The loss of Bonus Points? One point lost per season, excluding loyalty points and all points lost for less than 50 posts in a season.
Loyalty Points? 1 for 2 seasons with the same club and 3 for four seasons with the same club.
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Re: Bonus Points on Averages
Did I mention that the Kings are actually the Maggies with the name changed? This is my 4th season with the "Maggies"
Did I mention that the Kings are actually the Maggies with the name changed?
This is my 4th season with the "Maggies"