Bowling Video - New General Muscle Soreness
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Jonesy
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First cricket session at the nets today. My back was holding up fine but then it started hurting. Went away after a bit but still isn't a good sign.
Although one good thing came out of the session, I bowled to some seniors and got 3-4 wickets and it was great
First cricket session at the nets today. My back was holding up fine but then it started hurting. Went away after a bit but still isn't a good sign.
Although one good thing came out of the session, I bowled to some seniors and got 3-4 wickets and it was great
Jonesy
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It's still troubling me, today it was bad, not that bad in bowling (it was still there though) but more in general after my training it hurt.
Could it be because I am leaning back too much in my delivery stride? My coach said that might be the problem. If so it's an easy fix, but I have my doubts because it hasn't gone away any other time.
It's still troubling me, today it was bad, not that bad in bowling (it was still there though) but more in general after my training it hurt.
Could it be because I am leaning back too much in my delivery stride? My coach said that might be the problem. If so it's an easy fix, but I have my doubts because it hasn't gone away any other time.
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Hi Jonesy,
Did you ever get to see the Naturopath? If so, how did it go?
To be honest, it does not sound like a result of hyperextension, though it does sound like a biomechanical malfunction somewhere.
So that I don't miss anything, tell me everything; where it hurts, when, how and anything else you can think of.
Is it possible to post another video?
Hi Jonesy,
Did you ever get to see the Naturopath? If so, how did it go?
To be honest, it does not sound like a result of hyperextension, though it does sound like a biomechanical malfunction somewhere.
So that I don't miss anything, tell me everything; where it hurts, when, how and anything else you can think of.
Is it possible to post another video?
Jonesy
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Nah unfortunately it didn't happen.
Kinda hard to explain so there you go. It's a sharp pain, comes for a split second when I'm delivering the ball then goes away. Sometimes (but not often) comes when I'm doing everyday things (eg picking up stuff)
Yeh I should be able to post another video when I get time.
Liz Ward;29554 said:
Nah unfortunately it didn't happen.
Liz Ward;29554 said:
Kinda hard to explain so there you go. It's a sharp pain, comes for a split second when I'm delivering the ball then goes away. Sometimes (but not often) comes when I'm doing everyday things (eg picking up stuff)
Yeh I should be able to post another video when I get time.
Re: Bowling Video
You're bowling midway here Jonesy. As with storm, you also need to keep that non bowling arm perpendicular to the ground but you should be looking [almost] through the arm; glancing just to the right of it [as opposed to storm, who should be looking completely to the left].
In your desire to get some hip thrust, you are rotating a little too much; at the end of your action, your whole body should be facing staight down the wicket... you have rotated so your body is facing to [your] left of the wicket. This means you have to 'whip' your spine around to continue your follow through run; this is where the pain comes from.
Take it easy for a while; walk through your action as often and when/wherever you can, including follow through. Don't put on the pace until the pain has eased a bit.
I love the arm positions at the end of the action; excellent.
You're bowling midway here Jonesy. As with storm, you also need to keep that non bowling arm perpendicular to the ground but you should be looking [almost] through the arm; glancing just to the right of it [as opposed to storm, who should be looking completely to the left].
In your desire to get some hip thrust, you are rotating a little too much; at the end of your action, your whole body should be facing staight down the wicket... you have rotated so your body is facing to [your] left of the wicket. This means you have to 'whip' your spine around to continue your follow through run; this is where the pain comes from.
Take it easy for a while; walk through your action as often and when/wherever you can, including follow through. Don't put on the pace until the pain has eased a bit.
I love the arm positions at the end of the action; excellent.
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If this is the case Jonesy, break down the action without a ball.
Forget the run up and bowl from base in slow motion. Concentrate on:
right knee lift... back foot contact;
left knee lift... front foot contact;
right knee lift... hip thrust.
Finish with your right hand at your left armpit and your left arm vertical behind you.
This can be done at home; you don't need too much room. Lay down a long piece of string/ribbon/tape measure to travel the full length of your action. Start with your left foot on the left of the tape measure and your right foot on the right of the tape measure. At no point during the action should either foot cross over.
When this feels natural, add pace but still from base. At this point, you can include two 1kg dumbbells; one in each hand. When this feels natural add your run up and follow through. If you lose form, take it back a step until it all feels comfortable.
Let me know how you get on.
If this is the case Jonesy, break down the action without a ball.
Forget the run up and bowl from base in slow motion. Concentrate on:
right knee lift... back foot contact;
left knee lift... front foot contact;
right knee lift... hip thrust.
Finish with your right hand at your left armpit and your left arm vertical behind you.
This can be done at home; you don't need too much room. Lay down a long piece of string/ribbon/tape measure to travel the full length of your action. Start with your left foot on the left of the tape measure and your right foot on the right of the tape measure. At no point during the action should either foot cross over.
When this feels natural, add pace but still from base. At this point, you can include two 1kg dumbbells; one in each hand. When this feels natural add your run up and follow through. If you lose form, take it back a step until it all feels comfortable.
Let me know how you get on.
Jonesy
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Did the walk through and every last night and this morning. Felt good so at training this morning I did it full speed.
I had no back pain at all and I don't know if it was that or what but it felt like I was bowling much faster, and it seemed I surprised the batsman a lot. I know my action may still need some work and I might not of conquered it just yet, but the signs seem good from what happened today.
EDIT: Actually he just told me now that I got heaps of bounce - like I'd pitch it up for a forward defense and it would bounce up to back foot defense length. I also think I was still faster than before today.
Thanks heaps Liz.
Did the walk through and every last night and this morning. Felt good so at training this morning I did it full speed.
I had no back pain at all and I don't know if it was that or what but it felt like I was bowling much faster, and it seemed I surprised the batsman a lot. I know my action may still need some work and I might not of conquered it just yet, but the signs seem good from what happened today.
EDIT: Actually he just told me now that I got heaps of bounce - like I'd pitch it up for a forward defense and it would bounce up to back foot defense length. I also think I was still faster than before today.
Thanks heaps Liz.
Jonesy
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Hey Liz and anyone else, this isn't about my action but it's too small to create new topic on.
After 4 hours (the most I've done since March) of training on Saturday (2 blocks of 2 hours with 30 minutes rest in between) I pulled up really sore in the right quad, right groin and left calf. I dunno if it's all DOMS because I started feeling sore in the quads straight after the first training. In the second block I only bowled off spin but I've still pulled up really sore. I walk OK but with a tiny limp sometimes. I can sprint but with a pretty big limp and it hurts a lot when standing up from sitting and kneeling down. I have seniors training tomorrow and I want to go.
Is there any way I can lessen the pain before tomorrow?
Also, do you think I really shouldn't go? It will just be nets again but I want to get used to seniors so yeah.
I have a dry ice pack for muscular pain and sprains, should I use that or wouldn't it be effective this late?
Hey Liz and anyone else, this isn't about my action but it's too small to create new topic on.
After 4 hours (the most I've done since March) of training on Saturday (2 blocks of 2 hours with 30 minutes rest in between) I pulled up really sore in the right quad, right groin and left calf. I dunno if it's all DOMS because I started feeling sore in the quads straight after the first training. In the second block I only bowled off spin but I've still pulled up really sore. I walk OK but with a tiny limp sometimes. I can sprint but with a pretty big limp and it hurts a lot when standing up from sitting and kneeling down. I have seniors training tomorrow and I want to go.
Is there any way I can lessen the pain before tomorrow?
Also, do you think I really shouldn't go? It will just be nets again but I want to get used to seniors so yeah.
I have a dry ice pack for muscular pain and sprains, should I use that or wouldn't it be effective this late?
Jonesy
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Re: Bowling Video
Hey Liz and anyone else, this isn't about my action but it's too small to create new topic on.
After 4 hours (the most I've done since March) of training on Saturday (2 blocks of 2 hours with 30 minutes rest in between) I pulled up really sore in the right quad, right groin, left calf and sometimes left hamstring although that doesn't affect me to much. I dunno if it's all DOMS because I started feeling sore in the quads straight after the first training. In the second block I only bowled off spin but I've still pulled up really sore. I walk OK but with a tiny limp sometimes. I can sprint but with a pretty big limp and it hurts a lot when standing up from sitting and kneeling down. I have seniors training tomorrow and I want to go.
Is there any way I can lessen the pain before tomorrow?
Also, do you think I really shouldn't go? It will just be nets again but I want to get used to seniors so yeah.
I have a dry ice pack for muscular pain and sprains, should I use that or wouldn't it be effective this late?
Hey Liz and anyone else, this isn't about my action but it's too small to create new topic on.
After 4 hours (the most I've done since March) of training on Saturday (2 blocks of 2 hours with 30 minutes rest in between) I pulled up really sore in the right quad, right groin, left calf and sometimes left hamstring although that doesn't affect me to much. I dunno if it's all DOMS because I started feeling sore in the quads straight after the first training. In the second block I only bowled off spin but I've still pulled up really sore. I walk OK but with a tiny limp sometimes. I can sprint but with a pretty big limp and it hurts a lot when standing up from sitting and kneeling down. I have seniors training tomorrow and I want to go.
Is there any way I can lessen the pain before tomorrow?
Also, do you think I really shouldn't go? It will just be nets again but I want to get used to seniors so yeah.
I have a dry ice pack for muscular pain and sprains, should I use that or wouldn't it be effective this late?
Re: Bowling Video - New General Muscle Soreness
This sounds like too much, too soon on too little a warm up
I doubt very much that this is DOMs; more like pulled muscles
I shall [try to] refrain from a lecture on how you should have stopped as soon as you pulled up, performed a full set of stretches and called it a day but... hey ho! ...you know me....
...Listen to your body; if you pull up in such a fashion stop training immediately. Make sure you stretch the muscles and if possible massage them. Do not continue. Do not attempt to sprint. Put on some warm trousers, walk around or go home. Recovery will be a lot, LOT quicker.
Do you think that's enough?
As for Seniors, by all means go but be prepared for not doing too much. It does often help to show your face though.
If you feel the muscles are inflammed, ice cannot hurt even at this late stage. Ibuprofen will also be a good aid. If the muscles are not inflammed and there is no bruising, keep them warm; a sports balm is good with a good massage.
If you feel pain, do not join in... you can learn a lot from just using your ears and your eyes!
This sounds like too much, too soon on too little a warm up
I doubt very much that this is DOMs; more like pulled muscles
I shall [try to] refrain from a lecture on how you should have stopped as soon as you pulled up, performed a full set of stretches and called it a day but... hey ho! ...you know me....
...Listen to your body; if you pull up in such a fashion stop training immediately. Make sure you stretch the muscles and if possible massage them. Do not continue. Do not attempt to sprint. Put on some warm trousers, walk around or go home. Recovery will be a lot, LOT quicker.
Do you think that's enough?
As for Seniors, by all means go but be prepared for not doing too much. It does often help to show your face though.
If you feel the muscles are inflammed, ice cannot hurt even at this late stage. Ibuprofen will also be a good aid. If the muscles are not inflammed and there is no bruising, keep them warm; a sports balm is good with a good massage.
If you feel pain, do not join in... you can learn a lot from just using your ears and your eyes!
Jonesy
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Re: Bowling Video - New General Muscle Soreness
Haha thanks for that. Just to be clear, I didn't pull up from a run and suddenly get sore muscles out of it, I got it about 4 or 5 minutes after finishing, and yes I did do a cool down although it only consisted of stretching the hammys. Would it still be pulled muscles then?
There's no sign of bruising (like there is no bruised colours on the surface) although it does feel sore when you press against them.
Dad used some balm kinda thing (well it came out of a tube at least) and gave me a massage as well as going up and down my leg with an acupuncture needle and some weird metal stick thing. It helped for the some of that night but it came back.
Haha thanks for that. Just to be clear, I didn't pull up from a run and suddenly get sore muscles out of it, I got it about 4 or 5 minutes after finishing, and yes I did do a cool down although it only consisted of stretching the hammys. Would it still be pulled muscles then?
There's no sign of bruising (like there is no bruised colours on the surface) although it does feel sore when you press against them.
Dad used some balm kinda thing (well it came out of a tube at least) and gave me a massage as well as going up and down my leg with an acupuncture needle and some weird metal stick thing. It helped for the some of that night but it came back.
Re: Bowling Video - New General Muscle Soreness
Yes, it does sound like pulled muscles rather than DOMs. Your cool down should include stretches to the calf, quads, hams, inner thighs, outer thighs, hip flexors as well as the mid and upper body.
Ask your Dad to re-apply the balm and give you a massage [not a deep one] today and tomorrow. Take some ibuprofen and see how it feels before the session.
Let us know how it goes.
Yes, it does sound like pulled muscles rather than DOMs. Your cool down should include stretches to the calf, quads, hams, inner thighs, outer thighs, hip flexors as well as the mid and upper body.
Ask your Dad to re-apply the balm and give you a massage [not a deep one] today and tomorrow. Take some ibuprofen and see how it feels before the session.
Let us know how it goes.