City of Moorabbin Cricket Association 09/10
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Uncle Mick
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Re: City of Moorabbin Cricket Association 09/10
Merl - the child's appointment was in the local paper about 5 weeks ago. Given it had no bearing on our Association, I didn't think it was necessary to make mention. He needs to move on, so the less he's involved in the CMCA forum the better.
Lazza - firstly, welcome. Secondly, A mutual friend had a visit from Ash who later relayed to me the reason Ash gave it away was he'd had a fall out with his brother. Be it injury or the fall out, both will no doubt be overcome in due course and he'll be playing again. Can't see him turning ihs back on the game when he still has plenty to offer.
pdog - chcek post #56 on page 6 of this thread. You'll find my predictions there. I reckon Centrals with Steve May fit are the early front runner. MW deserve to be up there, just ahead of about 6-7 teams you could throw a blanket over. All are good enough on their day. Each side relies heavily on a few, so it'll depend on those individuals performances and the contributions of the rest.
Impact players for mine are:
Aspendale - Tonkin, Morell,
Bentleigh ANA - Marsh, Sherlock.
Bentleigh Uniting - unknown.
Brighton District - Ryan, Sacks.
Brighton Union - Gorozides, Blair, Northage.
Cluden - Hurley, John, Baldock.
East Sandy - Bailey, Dewhurst, Ross.
Hampton Central - May, Amoore, Gold, Dwyer.
Hampton United - Bell, Dixon.
Moorabbin West - McConville, Aydin, S.Worker, Wallace.
Omega - Ryan, D'Amico, Cruwys.
Any side interested in a practice match this weekend, send me a PM. It'll have to be away as we don't have a ground available to us yet.
Merl - the child's appointment was in the local paper about 5 weeks ago. Given it had no bearing on our Association, I didn't think it was necessary to make mention. He needs to move on, so the less he's involved in the CMCA forum the better.
Lazza - firstly, welcome. Secondly, A mutual friend had a visit from Ash who later relayed to me the reason Ash gave it away was he'd had a fall out with his brother. Be it injury or the fall out, both will no doubt be overcome in due course and he'll be playing again. Can't see him turning ihs back on the game when he still has plenty to offer.
pdog - chcek post #56 on page 6 of this thread. You'll find my predictions there. I reckon Centrals with Steve May fit are the early front runner. MW deserve to be up there, just ahead of about 6-7 teams you could throw a blanket over. All are good enough on their day. Each side relies heavily on a few, so it'll depend on those individuals performances and the contributions of the rest.
Impact players for mine are:
Aspendale - Tonkin, Morell,
Bentleigh ANA - Marsh, Sherlock.
Bentleigh Uniting - unknown.
Brighton District - Ryan, Sacks.
Brighton Union - Gorozides, Blair, Northage.
Cluden - Hurley, John, Baldock.
East Sandy - Bailey, Dewhurst, Ross.
Hampton Central - May, Amoore, Gold, Dwyer.
Hampton United - Bell, Dixon.
Moorabbin West - McConville, Aydin, S.Worker, Wallace.
Omega - Ryan, D'Amico, Cruwys.
Any side interested in a practice match this weekend, send me a PM. It'll have to be away as we don't have a ground available to us yet.
Re: City of Moorabbin Cricket Association 09/10
With respect to Bentleigh United you can add:
Brisbane, Zaia, McConville, Thiedeman, Richards.
Yes clocker with respect it is Bentleigh Uniting not United Pal.
The names you mentioned are kids all under 23yrs old, i would think Peter Manakis will be a huge impact player & i would suspect the return of Peter milner to Woolnough cricket with Manakis.
With respect to Bentleigh United you can add:
Brisbane, Zaia, McConville, Thiedeman, Richards.
Yes clocker with respect it is Bentleigh Uniting not United Pal.
The names you mentioned are kids all under 23yrs old, i would think Peter Manakis will be a huge impact player & i would suspect the return of Peter milner to Woolnough cricket with Manakis.
CLOCKER
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Re: City of Moorabbin Cricket Association 09/10
Brett, I stand corrected.Interesting that the maroons have decided that Peter Manakis is going to be playing in their seconds He played seven games last season in Longmuir albeit without much of an impact ie average of less than ten,(but he was not Robinson Crusoe there) but an average of 57 in C Grade. I suspect that he will be among the leading run getters in Woolnough this season.It certainly is shaping up to be an interesting season in Woolnough as it will be cut throat all year.Now if we could only get the draw it would be great.I still believe the maroons are the danger team in Woolnough and have the talent to go all the way.
brett;365142 said:
Brett, I stand corrected.Interesting that the maroons have decided that Peter Manakis is going to be playing in their seconds He played seven games last season in Longmuir albeit without much of an impact ie average of less than ten,(but he was not Robinson Crusoe there) but an average of 57 in C Grade. I suspect that he will be among the leading run getters in Woolnough this season.It certainly is shaping up to be an interesting season in Woolnough as it will be cut throat all year.Now if we could only get the draw it would be great.I still believe the maroons are the danger team in Woolnough and have the talent to go all the way.
Uncle Mick
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Re: City of Moorabbin Cricket Association 09/10
It's been well publicised that the ground availability has been quite an issue so far, but I tend to agree with the growing chorus. We're 16 days out from the season opener, we should really be seeing a fixture by now.
It's been well publicised that the ground availability has been quite an issue so far, but I tend to agree with the growing chorus. We're 16 days out from the season opener, we should really be seeing a fixture by now.
Re: City of Moorabbin Cricket Association 09/10
Well Clocker Manakis is in his early 40's so no longer does the 1stX1 remain in his best interest and the club's, he battles with inj and is probably the best man to to help lead the young Woolnough side.
He will be a contributor with the bat and even better with the ball, the Woolnogh side will do well but with a few players not playing for various reasons they certainly wont be favourites. look for them to finish 6-8 imo.
CLOCKER;365259 said:
Well Clocker Manakis is in his early 40's so no longer does the 1stX1 remain in his best interest and the club's, he battles with inj and is probably the best man to to help lead the young Woolnough side.
He will be a contributor with the bat and even better with the ball, the Woolnogh side will do well but with a few players not playing for various reasons they certainly wont be favourites. look for them to finish 6-8 imo.
Uncle Mick
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Re: City of Moorabbin Cricket Association 09/10
It matters when the first 2 games are one dayers and there are concerns with player availability. Will help to have a plan in place depending on who the opponents are for those 1st couple of weeks. We're not all blessed with great numbers. The results may well be the difference come March 2010.
It matters when the first 2 games are one dayers and there are concerns with player availability. Will help to have a plan in place depending on who the opponents are for those 1st couple of weeks. We're not all blessed with great numbers. The results may well be the difference come March 2010.
CLOCKER
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Re: City of Moorabbin Cricket Association 09/10
For a long time there have been mutterings about the consistency of umpires and the dreaded LBW decision.Umpires are criticized for getting it wrong,not understanding the law, and being intimidated by some clubs or playing favourites with others.Finally there is the dreaded umpires meeting where an umpire can be torn to shreds in front if his peers by superiors who in many cases never saw a ball bowled in the game.
Some of the blogs previously posted probably sums up what most bowlers suspect, that a conspiracy exists against the work horses of the game, and batsmen can do no wrong.
No doubt that Brighton Union, Washington Park,Bentleigh ANA and Mackie have had their fair share of LBW’s given against them during the season.Brighton Union finished second on the ladder at the end of the home and away season and yet copped the largest number of LBW’s including a further four in their finals campaign.
Are there players in the above teams who sweat whenever an LBW appeal is made, as they are considered high probaility candidates to be triggered?
But in the context of the season LBW’s represent about 10% of the decisions. It begs the question are two umpires more likely to give more LBW’s than one umpire as has been most of the case in Woolnough? Anecdotally it would appear that one umpire is less likely to give a large number of LBW decisions. The statistics for last season indicate that Moorabbin West had a dream run with LBW’s during the season and then continued it in the finals where they did not have one LBW decision given against them.
It is very likely that a number of Longmuir games will have one umpire this season for a number of reasons, so it will be interesting to see the outcome.
Longmuir LBW decisions given against each team.
Ladder at end of season 2008-2009.
1 East Sandringham:7
2 Brighton Union:16
3 Elwood:7
4 West Bentleigh:8
5 Mackie:12
6 Bentleigh Uniting: 7
7 Washington Park:15
8 Bentleigh ANA:12
9 Le Page Park:10
10 Omega:5
11 Carnegie South:11
12 Hampton Central:10
Total:120 LBW’s in the home and away season which represents approximately 10% of all decisions given for the season.
Woolnough LBW decisions.2008-2009
1 Kingston Heath: 8
2 Moorabbin West: 3
3 Brighton Union: 8
4 Highett West: 10
5 East Sandringham: 5
6 Hampton United:7
7 Cluden:8
8 Aspendale - Edithvale RSL: 7
9 Bentleigh ANA:7
10 Brighton District:8
11 Omega: 10
12 Southside East Caulfield:12
Total:93 LBW’s in the home and away season which represents approximately less than 8% of all decisions given for the season.
For a long time there have been mutterings about the consistency of umpires and the dreaded LBW decision.Umpires are criticized for getting it wrong,not understanding the law, and being intimidated by some clubs or playing favourites with others.Finally there is the dreaded umpires meeting where an umpire can be torn to shreds in front if his peers by superiors who in many cases never saw a ball bowled in the game.
Some of the blogs previously posted probably sums up what most bowlers suspect, that a conspiracy exists against the work horses of the game, and batsmen can do no wrong.
No doubt that Brighton Union, Washington Park,Bentleigh ANA and Mackie have had their fair share of LBW’s given against them during the season.Brighton Union finished second on the ladder at the end of the home and away season and yet copped the largest number of LBW’s including a further four in their finals campaign.
Are there players in the above teams who sweat whenever an LBW appeal is made, as they are considered high probaility candidates to be triggered?
But in the context of the season LBW’s represent about 10% of the decisions. It begs the question are two umpires more likely to give more LBW’s than one umpire as has been most of the case in Woolnough? Anecdotally it would appear that one umpire is less likely to give a large number of LBW decisions. The statistics for last season indicate that Moorabbin West had a dream run with LBW’s during the season and then continued it in the finals where they did not have one LBW decision given against them.
It is very likely that a number of Longmuir games will have one umpire this season for a number of reasons, so it will be interesting to see the outcome.
Longmuir LBW decisions given against each team.
Ladder at end of season 2008-2009.
1 East Sandringham:7
2 Brighton Union:16
3 Elwood:7
4 West Bentleigh:8
5 Mackie:12
6 Bentleigh Uniting: 7
7 Washington Park:15
8 Bentleigh ANA:12
9 Le Page Park:10
10 Omega:5
11 Carnegie South:11
12 Hampton Central:10
Total:120 LBW’s in the home and away season which represents approximately 10% of all decisions given for the season.
Woolnough LBW decisions.2008-2009
1 Kingston Heath: 8
2 Moorabbin West: 3
3 Brighton Union: 8
4 Highett West: 10
5 East Sandringham: 5
6 Hampton United:7
7 Cluden:8
8 Aspendale - Edithvale RSL: 7
9 Bentleigh ANA:7
10 Brighton District:8
11 Omega: 10
12 Southside East Caulfield:12
Total:93 LBW’s in the home and away season which represents approximately less than 8% of all decisions given for the season.
Uncle Mick
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Re: City of Moorabbin Cricket Association 09/10
You always pick your best side. However, when players aren't available for the full duration of a match whether we pick those players will depend on the opponent.
You always pick your best side. However, when players aren't available for the full duration of a match whether we pick those players will depend on the opponent.
Uncle Mick
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Re: City of Moorabbin Cricket Association 09/10
I marvel at your work, Clock. I've always been a sceptic of an umpire's ability to give an LBW decision in Woolnough Shield. There seemed to be more consistency in my only year of Longmuir cricket. Always felt like I was a chance to get one.
As Forrest Gump's dear old lady once told him about life's comparison to a box of chocolates, quite often you never know what you're going to get in the 2nd grade.
As a bowler, I often feel like I get a raw deal, but what bowler doesn't? The main issue is the contrasting opinions of umpires with respect to the law. Some flat out won't give one if a batsman is coming forward, others are too happy to keep the finger in the pocket unless it's a full toss on middle and the very rare breed will consider the laws pertaining to LBW decisions before making their call.
Indiscretions are part and parcel, but varying opinions of the law make it frustrating over the course of a season.
I marvel at your work, Clock. I've always been a sceptic of an umpire's ability to give an LBW decision in Woolnough Shield. There seemed to be more consistency in my only year of Longmuir cricket. Always felt like I was a chance to get one.
As Forrest Gump's dear old lady once told him about life's comparison to a box of chocolates, quite often you never know what you're going to get in the 2nd grade.
As a bowler, I often feel like I get a raw deal, but what bowler doesn't? The main issue is the contrasting opinions of umpires with respect to the law. Some flat out won't give one if a batsman is coming forward, others are too happy to keep the finger in the pocket unless it's a full toss on middle and the very rare breed will consider the laws pertaining to LBW decisions before making their call.
Indiscretions are part and parcel, but varying opinions of the law make it frustrating over the course of a season.
WIP (Wily Old Pro)
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Re: City of Moorabbin Cricket Association 09/10
Be nice, I'm new!
- Word is 'Gorro' (Union) will not play Woolnough in 09/10, nor will J.Ross (ESBC) whose future appears to be more sunny and golden than rosy!
- Add Manakis to Utg along with many talented, yet undisciplined youngsters.
- Moor West must win flag if they play finals! Their existence depends on it!
- High West smoky in Woolnough if W.Corr can make 450+ runs....
Must be nearly start of cricket season - it's raining!
Uncle Mick;365103 said:
Be nice, I'm new!
- Word is 'Gorro' (Union) will not play Woolnough in 09/10, nor will J.Ross (ESBC) whose future appears to be more sunny and golden than rosy!
- Add Manakis to Utg along with many talented, yet undisciplined youngsters.
- Moor West must win flag if they play finals! Their existence depends on it!
- High West smoky in Woolnough if W.Corr can make 450+ runs....
Must be nearly start of cricket season - it's raining!
Re: City of Moorabbin Cricket Association 09/10
I am a little confussed about your comments re Moorabbin West needing to win the flag for our existance. The core make up of the side is guys under the age of 23 I can't see them leaving the club therefore i think the mighty westers will be around for a few more years yet.
I am a little confussed about your comments re Moorabbin West needing to win the flag for our existance. The core make up of the side is guys under the age of 23 I can't see them leaving the club therefore i think the mighty westers will be around for a few more years yet.
Uncle Mick
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Re: City of Moorabbin Cricket Association 09/10
Surely the Greek Zorro will play on. They need his experience in Woolnough to develop the kids. Young Blair has a big future and I don't think he will develop quite as well under anyone else.
Huge call on MW. Not sure their existence depends on a flag. It will be pretty deflating however, if they were to go through another finals series without saluting in the big one. Doesn't help their cause when the skipper is held in the same esteem by the kids as many of his opponents.
W.Corr made 500 runs last year and it still wasn't enough to get them past a 1st semi final. Expect e3ven bigger things from him this year. Took a while to adapt to the change of surfaces and being a leader at his club, but each year he's gradually increased his output.
WIP (Wily Old Pro);365391 said:
Surely the Greek Zorro will play on. They need his experience in Woolnough to develop the kids. Young Blair has a big future and I don't think he will develop quite as well under anyone else.
Huge call on MW. Not sure their existence depends on a flag. It will be pretty deflating however, if they were to go through another finals series without saluting in the big one. Doesn't help their cause when the skipper is held in the same esteem by the kids as many of his opponents.
W.Corr made 500 runs last year and it still wasn't enough to get them past a 1st semi final. Expect e3ven bigger things from him this year. Took a while to adapt to the change of surfaces and being a leader at his club, but each year he's gradually increased his output.
CLOCKER
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Re: City of Moorabbin Cricket Association 09/10
Have to agree with you Lazza on this issue. A lot of pundits thought it was the end for MW when they were relegated, lost the Bott boys,May,and a couple of others.They have certainly bounced back hard.I would have thought Hampton Central will have a lot of pressure on them this season as they have their fair share of veterans.Gorro will be a big loss as he kept their seconds on the straight an narrow last season.Mick you will need another 319 runs + this season and a few others will have to step up as well if HW are going to be a chance.Are you still going to open the batting in the two dayers? I would expect you will in the one dayers.
Lazza;365399 said:
Have to agree with you Lazza on this issue. A lot of pundits thought it was the end for MW when they were relegated, lost the Bott boys,May,and a couple of others.They have certainly bounced back hard.I would have thought Hampton Central will have a lot of pressure on them this season as they have their fair share of veterans.Gorro will be a big loss as he kept their seconds on the straight an narrow last season.Mick you will need another 319 runs + this season and a few others will have to step up as well if HW are going to be a chance.Are you still going to open the batting in the two dayers? I would expect you will in the one dayers.
Uncle Mick
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Re: City of Moorabbin Cricket Association 09/10
Have no idea about opening, Clock. I made it very clear I wanted to make the opening spot my own last season, but ultimately the decision rests with the skipper. What he decides to do with the batting order is anyone's guess. As you can see from the season last year we were moved around a bit.
Have no idea about opening, Clock. I made it very clear I wanted to make the opening spot my own last season, but ultimately the decision rests with the skipper. What he decides to do with the batting order is anyone's guess. As you can see from the season last year we were moved around a bit.
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