CMCA- Ommies to remain in top grade

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You have to admire the Executive at the VTCA. They try to keep things simple:
Here is the VTCA guide regarding the heat rule.Easy to follow and pretty clear whereas the CMCA's rules are ambigious in some parts.

EXTREME HEAT PROCEDURES RULES
On a day of extreme heat the following rules apply with respect to play taking place:

1. It is the responsibility of the captains that the weather bureau be called on 1196 immediately before play is due to commence.

2. If the temperature as recorded in Melbourne City is 38 degrees or more, then play shall not commence.

3. Play shall not commence until the recorded temperature falls below 38 degrees.

4. It is the responsibility of captains that the weather bureau be called every half hour during play; and

5. If the temperature as recorded in Melbourne City is 38 degrees or more, then play shall cease.

6. Play shall not recommence until the recorded temperature falls below 38 degrees.

7. Any delay or interruption to play shall be treated in the usual way and the applicable match rules apply. Specifically, refer to rules regarding reduction of overs and normal conditions.

8. If the temperature reaches 38 degrees and play is delayed, under our match rules, the captains can agree to abandon play on the basis that the conditions are unfit for play to continue.

9. Where the captains disagree about abandoning play, the decision then falls to the umpire.

10. Where the captains disagree and there is no umpire then the teams remain until the temperature falls below 38 degrees, they agree or 6 pm arrives.
 
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Finals tips - Longy

Round 10
West Bentleigh v Union
Uniting v Omega
ESBCC v Carnegie South
Mackie v Le Page
WPCC v Elwood

Round 11
Union v Mackie
Le Page v Uniting
Elwood v ESBCC
Carnegie South v West Bentleigh

Therefore final ladder
ESBCC 57
Union 54
Elwood 48
Uniting 42
Mackie 42
West Bentleigh 39

Mackie & Uniting to be split on percentage (which is close anyway) But would assume Uniting's would improve more with 2 wins v 1 win.

Tie costs Mackie
 
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I'm sure we've all played in games upwards of 40 degrees before. If individuals are labouring and genuinely need respite, then measures should be taken. Shouldn't be too difficult to arrange more frequent drink intervals. Understandably some lower grades may struggle, but most 1stXI & 2XI teams will have persons on hand to accommodate drinks, ice etc. Otherwise, stick some concrete in their cordial so they can harden the fu(k up.
Besides, these morons that get paid to weather forecast have already changed the prediction to 35. Let us all worry about the cricket instead of what the weather is doing.

As for a tie costing Mackie.... calling the game off Rd.3 or 4 is probably what will cost them. Inclement weather chasing 215 or 230 against ES, you'd probably back the batting side. Both chose to get an early start on the cans instead.
 
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Uniting have made 177, 168, 138 in their last three digs.Playing a very ordinary Omega and need to make 250+. Mackie have lost 18 wickets in the past 2 games.Nine of them ducks! Does not inspire confidence.All three contenders for a finals spot are doing their best to throw it away.
 
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Possibly. Need to win this week if they're any chance.

Longy tips for this week are:
West Bentleigh v Union - whoever bats first.
Uniting v Omega - anticipating a tight one. Omega to cause an upset.
ESBCC v Carnegie South - ESBC to roll through the motions. Celebrating their 65th anniversary this weekend in style.
Mackie v Le Page - Mackie to crumble under the stress of their finals aspirations.
WPCC v Elwood - The Woods to set up a ding dong top of the table clash coming into Rd.11 with a solid win.
Centrals v ANA - ANA to gain some momentum from their big win on Sunday and carry it through to 09/10. Good to see the so-called leaders, batting up the top of the order.

In Woolnough it's a huge round for most involved. Kingston need to bounce back and find some form heading into finals. Moorabbin West the same, with the whisper that A.Worker's out for a month and Wallace is struggling with an injury. Put's a lot of pressure on Macca and the kids. Then there's team 3rd-8th all vying for 2 spots. Asp/Edi must win both, as would all sides on 5-4 to secure a spot.
Tips are:
HUCC v MW - United in a canter. Bell hitting form at the right time (not that he was ever out of form). Chicken McNoe to get amongst the runs as well.
KH V Omega - The Ommies to inflict Kingtson's 3rd consecutive loss.
BDCC v Southside - I'm gonna back Southside to pinch win number 2 here.
ANA v Asp/Edi - Sugar to spin ANA to victory and end the final hopes of the RSL boys.
Cluden v ESBC - hard one to pick here. If Hurley can make another big score it might be enough. I'll back the old side to get up led by the biggest underperformer to lead a side since they were calling for Steve Waugh's head!
Union v HWCC - I'm backing our boys to get a win here and pinch 3rd spot on the ladder.

Good luck to all on the weekend. Make sure you keep the fluids up with plenty of frothies tomorrow night!
 
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What gives the CMCA the right to cancel all junior games on Saturday morning when the weather is unlikely to qualify under the extreme heat policy?

A lot of sides will have their finals positions unfairly compromised as a result of this.

The ugly parent syndrome is as strong as ever.
 
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Sugar;318179 said:
What gives the CMCA the right to cancel all junior games on Saturday morning when the weather is unlikely to qualify under the extreme heat policy?

A lot of sides will have their finals positions unfairly compromised as a result of this.

The ugly parent syndrome is as strong as ever.
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A very interesting decision '' to say the least '', everyone that has been contacted today agrees about the stupidity of the decision.
Sugar, please make it known on your guestbook as it would probably help to at least try and get some sort of explanation from the Exec.
Not as many view this site.
Heard from reliable sources that not all exec members agreed with the decision, but must have had enough to get it over the line.
Its also mind boggling that there is not one mention of it on their web site.
When the hell are they going to get someone to update the site quickly and reliably, '' this is not a shot against John '' but simply, should be a requirement of good management for an association such as ours.
They seem to be catering for the bad managed clubs instead of the one's who use common sense.:eek:
 
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Sugar;318179 said:
What gives the CMCA the right to cancel all junior games on Saturday morning when the weather is unlikely to qualify under the extreme heat policy?

A lot of sides will have their finals positions unfairly compromised as a result of this.

The ugly parent syndrome is as strong as ever.
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Heat rule is in place so use it.It seems the Friday Night comp is the only one they care about.
 
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To be fair to the CMCA, I believe kids went back to school this week? Even if they didn't, having been exposed to extreme temperatures for a few days leading into the weekend, it's understandable that they have the kids' best interests in mind.
 
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southern sledge;318793 said:
Its 24 degrees at 9am surely the kids could have played this morning.The cmca have a heat rule why not use it !
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Again an indication of the inconsistencies of this competition. They have rules then summarily change them to suit.They have set the precedence, let's see what happens.
 
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Archie Roach;316620 said:
Who the hell are you Ormodoespy? Don't get yourself too tied up in knots, it may affect your cricket.
It was heard on good aurthority about the mouthing off, so we'll leave it at that for now shall we.
Of course Elwood have had a good year ''SO FAR '' but check the draw out young fella, they still have to beat Wash Ups and the boys from Sandy.
Tough draw i'd say, lets talk in 4 weeks.
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interesting that u are calling me 'young fella' haha.. if only u knew.. ill be very willing to talk in 4 weeks archie can u at least put ur name to a team so we can see how ur club is travelling? u probly know nothing about the mouthing off just like everyone who wasnt there that is sticking their nose in where it doesnt belong..
who the hell am i? u dont name urself or even tell us where ur from so i think that is a fairly hypocritical question
 
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ormondespy;319782 said:
interesting that u are calling me 'young fella' haha.. if only u knew.. ill be very willing to talk in 4 weeks archie can u at least put ur name to a team so we can see how ur club is travelling? u probly know nothing about the mouthing off just like everyone who wasnt there that is sticking their nose in where it doesnt belong..
who the hell am i? u dont name urself or even tell us where ur from so i think that is a fairly hypocritical question
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Sorry '' young fella'' but your use of words and the common language would certainly indicate you are probably a modern day computer nerd.
How do think your boys will go next week chasing down 300 odd, big test i'd say?:confused:
Still talking it up?:(
Lets hope the boys from Wattie don't slip at the last hurdle. :p
 
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Archie Roach;320095 said:
Sorry '' young fella'' but your use of words and the common language would certainly indicate you are probably a modern day computer nerd.
How do think your boys will go next week chasing down 300 odd, big test i'd say?:confused:
Still talking it up?:(
Lets hope the boys from Wattie don't slip at the last hurdle. :p
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"use of words and common language" .. haha what the hell are u talking about ??
dont write the game off when its only half way through, our batting this year indicates that we can make a few runs ourselves. u didnt mention who are playing for?
 
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Archie Roach, does not play cricket anymore.
But that does not mean he does not know his cricket.
 
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Who on this forum was involved in the captain's meeting last night?I was impressed that their seems to be a genuine attempt at 'coaching' the umpiring fraternity, but find myself very sceptical of the whole situation. Any thoughts?
 
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Uncle Mick;320501 said:
Who on this forum was involved in the captain's meeting last night?I was impressed that their seems to be a genuine attempt at 'coaching' the umpiring fraternity, but find myself very sceptical of the whole situation. Any thoughts?
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Can you elaborate on the term 'coaching' and how they propose this will occur? Is to be done during a match, or outside of training?
 
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Coaching should be a self explanatory term one would think. The umpires attend umpire training and are coached/trained. Not too dissimilar to the cricketers turning up to cricket training to be coached/trained. Their's will be done as a result of more elaborate captain's assessments.
 
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Uncle Mick;320563 said:
Coaching should be a self explanatory term one would think. The umpires attend umpire training and are coached/trained. Not too dissimilar to the cricketers turning up to cricket training to be coached/trained. Their's will be done as a result of more elaborate captain's assessments.
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Yes Mick, the term coaching is fairly obvious however it was the process I was more interested in and you have now explained it. My question is why would it be done so late into the season with the finals two weeks away? One must conclude that the standard of umpiring based on the captains’ assessment is of a serious concern. How will ‘coaching’ have a significant impact in the last week of a home and away season? Most Captains are batsman and it appears to me that the ubiquitous LBW will be the biggest gripe that most reports would centre around. Throw it out to the forum on how you rate the standard of umpiring.
 
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