DVCA Barclay Shield 09/10

[Tongs]

Re: DVCA Barclay Shield 09/10

Mernda won by 2 runs after Research got within 2 runs with 2 wickets in hand. So much for a lacklustre game Tongs!

Cliose game yes, and would have been interesting to watch. But lets be honest, each team should make 340 each up at Research. The ground was bloody quick round 1 let alone by now. Yet they made 340 between them!

Still stand by what i said.

 

[Bundoora]

Re: DVCA Barclay Shield 09/10

Just wondering if anyone can recall a better individual game in "A" grade?

Sonny Taggar made 102* & took 7/25 against North Eltham ( plus a catch! ).

CC is they only bloke i can think of who may have acheived something similar

 

[cold case]

Re: DVCA Barclay Shield 09/10

Just wondering if anyone can recall a better individual game in "A" grade?

Sonny Taggar made 102* & took 7/25 against North Eltham ( plus a catch! ).

CC is they only bloke i can think of who may have acheived something similar

I cant remember exact figures but I think I took 13 wickets and made 100 retired against Monty in the mid to late 90's. Had to go to a wedding for 2 hours on the second week. I think I made 117 against Research and took 6 and two weeks later made 112 and 6 fa against Lower Eltham.
I made 149 and took 6/101 off 51 overs in the under 16 grand final. AND LOST!
A great effort by Sonny, and definately a round for the all rounders.

 

[100% BULL]

Re: DVCA Barclay Shield 09/10

I cant remember exact figures but I think I took 13 wickets and made 100 retired against Monty in the mid to late 90's. Had to go to a wedding for 2 hours on the second week. I think I made 117 against Research and took 6 and two weeks later made 112 and 6 fa against Lower Eltham.
I made 149 and took 6/101 off 51 overs in the under 16 grand final. AND LOST!
A great effort by Sonny, and definately a round for the all rounders.

Any LBW's in those wicket hauls..

 

[Tongs]

Re: DVCA Barclay Shield 09/10

I cant remember exact figures but I think I took 13 wickets and made 100 retired against Monty in the mid to late 90's. Had to go to a wedding for 2 hours on the second week. I think I made 117 against Research and took 6 and two weeks later made 112 and 6 fa against Lower Eltham.
I made 149 and took 6/101 off 51 overs in the under 16 grand final. AND LOST!
A great effort by Sonny, and definately a round for the all rounders.

You were 25 in this game though CC. So nothing to brag about!

What about your effort this week? 77 not out (6 "tonny Hicks") and just a lazy 3 for 53 of 31 overs!

Johnny Bubis made a ton, and after keeping the first 20 odd overs (2 catches) of the game, came on and bowled. Picked up 5 fa. This was in a Grand Final. And we lost!

 

[absoluteglam]

Re: DVCA Barclay Shield 09/10

They made 311 last wee! We have all had days where everything goes wrong. To bowl Riverside out for 160 (not sure exact score) proves they are up to it. Their batting let them down, and from what i hear there were 4 shocking decisions in Elthams innings. And that was from Riverside players.

Get all the facts and look at them as a whole, not just the score!

Come on Quinlan, get serious, Eltham were lucky not to lose outright to Riverside, absolutely disgraceful, and to use dodgy decisions as an excuse shows where you are as a cricketer, they all even up in the end.

 

[Tongs]

Re: DVCA Barclay Shield 09/10

Come on Quinlan, get serious, Eltham were lucky not to lose outright to Riverside, absolutely disgraceful, and to use dodgy decisions as an excuse shows where you are as a cricketer, they all even up in the end.

Champ have a look what i actually wrote! I said that the batting let them down! No excuses there. BUT i was told by 2 seperate Riverside players on different days that there were some poor decisions made.

Not really sure how that shows where i am at with my cricket??

So if you lose 6 wickets overnight and there are 4 bad decisions you can't use that as an excuse?

As for Eltham being disgracful, the comments i made were after week one, and their efforts in the field were brilliant! Yes they were ordinary with the bat, and every single Eltham player will say that!

 

[cold case]

Re: DVCA Barclay Shield 09/10

Any LBW's in those wicket hauls..

They were all LBW from what I can remember. Dave Moore wasn't umpiring.
Moorey finally conceded yesterday that he got the LBW rule wrong. He was adamant that any ball that pitches outside the off stump could in no way shape or form be given out. Very basic rule that states, a ball pitching outside off stump but hitting the pads in line can be given out. We actually made him go and get the rulebook. Fairly elementary I would have thought.
For all of you smart arses out there who give me grief about how many LBW's
I get or shouldn't get, here is a comparison.
SEASON 2008/09
T.Keays -
283 overs
41 wickets
6 LBW- 14.64%
Played 6 home games on old pitch, played Macleod, Lower Plenty, Research,
who also had old pitches.
P. Baker -
231 overs
49 wickets
14 LBW- 28.6%
Played 10 out of 12 games on new bouncey wickets.

He swings it further than me! He must have been bowling straight those days!

 

[Tongs]

Re: DVCA Barclay Shield 09/10

They were all LBW from what I can remember. Dave Moore wasn't umpiring.
Moorey finally conceded yesterday that he got the LBW rule wrong. He was adamant that any ball that pitches outside the off stump could in no way shape or form be given out. Very basic rule that states, a ball pitching outside off stump but hitting the pads in line can be given out. We actually made him go and get the rulebook. Fairly elementary I would have thought.
For all of you smart arses out there who give me grief about how many LBW's
I get or shouldn't get, here is a comparison.
SEASON 2008/09
T.Keays -
283 overs
41 wickets
6 LBW- 14.64%
Played 6 home games on old pitch, played Macleod, Lower Plenty, Research,
who also had old pitches.
P. Baker -
231 overs
49 wickets
14 LBW- 28.6%
Played 10 out of 12 games on new bouncey wickets.

He swings it further than me! He must have been bowling straight those days!

Or he is a better bowler? And doesn't get 65% caught on the fence?

 

[cold case]

Re: DVCA Barclay Shield 09/10

Or he is a better bowler? And doesn't get 65% caught on the fence?

Definately a better bowler.

 

[Tongs]

Re: DVCA Barclay Shield 09/10

Definately a better bowler.

I have only had to face him the once. Lets just say i still have nightmares. 1st nut, planted the front foot a foot out of off stump, shouldered arms and lost middle and off!

In saying that though I wouldn't face you for a living!

 

[cold case]

Re: DVCA Barclay Shield 09/10

Definately a better bowler.

I have only had to face him the once. Lets just say i still have nightmares. 1st nut, planted the front foot a foot out of off stump, shouldered arms and lost middle and off!

In saying that though I wouldn't face you for a living!

You would like to face my powderpuffs nowadays.

 

[captain cuzz]

Re: DVCA Barclay Shield 09/10

Definately a better bowler.

I have only had to face him the once. Lets just say i still have nightmares. 1st nut, planted the front foot a foot out of off stump, shouldered arms and lost middle and off!

In saying that though I wouldn't face you for a living!

Judging by the weekend's results, you should be in line to face up again this week!

If we see D.Quinlan - b. P.Baker on MyCricket at least we'll have a fair idea of how it happened!

 

[cold case]

Re: DVCA Barclay Shield 09/10

Judging by the weekend's results, you should be in line to face up again this week!

If we see D.Quinlan - b. P.Baker on MyCricket at least we'll have a fair idea of how it happened!

Unavailable this game Quinno or what?

 

[Tongs]

Re: DVCA Barclay Shield 09/10

Judging by the weekend's results, you should be in line to face up again this week!

If we see D.Quinlan - b. P.Baker on MyCricket at least we'll have a fair idea of how it happened!

Unavailable this game Quinno or what?

Probably not the best week to get some runs! I'm still going through counselling after the last time! Might be a good time to "do a hammy"

 

[cold case]

Re: DVCA Barclay Shield 09/10

Probably not the best week to get some runs! I'm still going through counselling after the last time! Might be a good time to "do a hammy"

You'll be ok. You guys almost chased down 290 last year from what I can remember. I know it mainly revolves around Skips but the challenge is always there!

 

[captain cuzz]

Re: DVCA Barclay Shield 09/10

You'll be ok. You guys almost chased down 290 last year from what I can remember. I know it mainly revolves around Skips but the challenge is always there!

Skips and Bakes probably cancel each other out for this game, if both fire up, so it's going to be interesting to see which side can get the most out of their next level players.

Jordan Dean has been in good form, while Brent Bailey and Matthew George have been quiet the last few weeks and are probably due for a good game. On the other hand, you'd think Sean Sceney wouldn't have two quiet games in a row and Keith Davidson is always dangerous down the lower order.

Add yourself to the mix Quinny and Eltham look pretty thick through the middle!

Going to be a pretty good game you'd you'd have to say.

 

[cold case]

Re: DVCA Barclay Shield 09/10

Skips and Bakes probably cancel each other out for this game, if both fire up, so it's going to be interesting to see which side can get the most out of their next level players.

Jordan Dean has been in good form, while Brent Bailey and Matthew George have been quiet the last few weeks and are probably due for a good game. On the other hand, you'd think Sean Sceney wouldn't have two quiet games in a row and Keith Davidson is always dangerous down the lower order.

Add yourself to the mix Quinny and Eltham look pretty thick through the middle!

Going to be a pretty good game you'd you'd have to say.

Food for thought. Probably a bit from left field and keeping with the old adage," If it aint broke dont fix it!"
Eltham are obviously struggling in the batting department and we know a time will come when Skips hangs up his boots. Who is the next best batsman? Who are Eltham grooming for the opening batsman's role after the champ?
If Eltham could find two blokes that can consistantly take the shine off the ball and eat some overs up, their next best batsman outside Skips in at 3 and Skips to follow, would or could this be beneficial or detrimental to the batting structure as it stands now?
Surely a shift in responsibility to the new top 3, but also not as much anxiety within the team knowing if Skips gets out early as an opener the days is over?
If the champ can average coming to the crease around the 20 over mark, I believe this will play on the oppositions' mind. Force them into thinking they have to get him out there as quick as possible. If the two openers can get through to the 1st and 2nd change bowlers life may be a lot easier.
Sometimes throwing a boy amongst the wolves brings the demon out. If you dont try you will never know.

 

[captain cuzz]

Re: DVCA Barclay Shield 09/10

Food for thought. Probably a bit from left field and keeping with the old adage," If it aint broke dont fix it!"
Eltham are obviously struggling in the batting department and we know a time will come when Skips hangs up his boots. Who is the next best batsman? Who are Eltham grooming for the opening batsman's role after the champ?
If Eltham could find two blokes that can consistantly take the shine off the ball and eat some overs up, their next best batsman outside Skips in at 3 and Skips to follow, would or could this be beneficial or detrimental to the batting structure as it stands now?
Surely a shift in responsibility to the new top 3, but also not as much anxiety within the team knowing if Skips gets out early as an opener the days is over?
If the champ can average coming to the crease around the 20 over mark, I believe this will play on the oppositions' mind. Force them into thinking they have to get him out there as quick as possible. If the two openers can get through to the 1st and 2nd change bowlers life may be a lot easier.
Sometimes throwing a boy amongst the wolves brings the demon out. If you dont try you will never know.

Not a bad thought, but could be a bit of a catch 22 situation..

It could be as simple as Eltham not having the cattle at the minute to take on that responsibility of facing the best bowlers in the comp, when they're fresh and when the new pill is zinging around all over the place.

If that's the case, it's going to be a matter of 1 or 2 wickets falling very early on with Skips coming in to face a relatively new pill when he may as well just keep opening up and batting where he's been so dominant his whole career.

While at the same time, saving a young bloke's confidence a bit. Not much point throwing him to the wolves if he's not ready, as you have said yourself before - You've seen blokes thrown in to early and never recover form it.

It's the same case at a few clubs - Eltham with Skips and opening the batting, Mernda and Lalor with yourself, CC, and Bakes opening the bowling - Big shoes to fill, and someone has step up one day, but if a bloke, no matter his age, is still slaying his opposition, I say just let him go on with it!

I think you were right in the opening line - If it aint broke don't fix it. I think from their performances over the last couple of years at least that Eltham simply don't have the player depth to warrant a change at this stage. That's not a slur on them, most clubs go through a rough patch where numbers/depth drops away, that's where it falls on the recruitment staff to get their act together and get out and find that next opener. You'd be a very lucky club to have more than one superstar of the ilk of the guys mentioned above coming through your junior program, therefore it falls on the recruiters of these clubs to make a difference.

This is all looking from the outside in, purely going on stats and results, I could be completely wrong and this week could be the week we see the next generation of stars on display, but unfortunately, I don't think the same level if talent is coming through as it did 20 years ago.

 

[cold case]

Re: DVCA Barclay Shield 09/10

Not a bad thought, but could be a bit of a catch 22 situation..

It could be as simple as Eltham not having the cattle at the minute to take on that responsibility of facing the best bowlers in the comp, when they're fresh and when the new pill is zinging around all over the place.

If that's the case, it's going to be a matter of 1 or 2 wickets falling very early on with Skips coming in to face a relatively new pill when he may as well just keep opening up and batting where he's been so dominant his whole career.

While at the same time, saving a young bloke's confidence a bit. Not much point throwing him to the wolves if he's not ready, as you have said yourself before - You've seen blokes thrown in to early and never recover form it.

It's the same case at a few clubs - Eltham with Skips and opening the batting, Mernda and Lalor with yourself, CC, and Bakes opening the bowling - Big shoes to fill, and someone has step up one day, but if a bloke, no matter his age, is still slaying his opposition, I say just let him go on with it!

I think you were right in the opening line - If it aint broke don't fix it. I think from their performances over the last couple of years at least that Eltham simply don't have the player depth to warrant a change at this stage. That's not a slur on them, most clubs go through a rough patch where numbers/depth drops away, that's where it falls on the recruitment staff to get their act together and get out and find that next opener. You'd be a very lucky club to have more than one superstar of the ilk of the guys mentioned above coming through your junior program, therefore it falls on the recruiters of these clubs to make a difference.

This is all looking from the outside in, purely going on stats and results, I could be completely wrong and this week could be the week we see the next generation of stars on display, but unfortunately, I don't think the same level if talent is coming through as it did 20 years ago.

Just glancing at the junior forums on here, and according to the posters we will have 25 superstars in the senior ranks over the next 2 years.
I do agree that if you haven't the cattle then you are up against it. As long as that cattle is getting the best out of themselves. I have found that a lot of players could be better but would rather bludge on the proven better players to get them through.