How do you rate south Africa's one day chances

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Johan Botha will lead the mighty South Africans to a 4-1 series win!
 
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grapedo;303337 said:
Yeah against South Africa:
Bracken - 9 matches - 358 runs -13 wickets @ 27.58 with an economy of 4.56.

Where as his career
148 wickets @ 21.87.

So South Africa have always had the wood on him.

I'd hardly say an average of 27.58 and economy of less than 5rpo means South Africa have always had the wood on him.

They are still very impressive figures.
 
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Jolldo87;303366 said:
I'd hardly say an average of 27.58 and economy of less than 5rpo means South Africa have always had the wood on him.

They are still very impressive figures.

It means on average he will pick up 1 - 45 off 10.

Not as effective as he usually would be IMO.
 
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grapedo;304206 said:
It means on average he will pick up 1 - 45 off 10.

Not as effective as he usually would be IMO.

Not as effective as usual but still very good.

I'd take those figures any day.
 
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Even though Australia are in a slump in the test arena, i think we will always dominate in the ODI's.
Aus 4 - 1 or 5 - 0
 
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I think it will be a close series.

3-2 South Africa is what my heart tells me.

3-2 Australia is what my head tells me.
 
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Who does everyone think should bowl at the death for South Africa ?

I think Steyn and Morne Morkel.
 
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Jolldo87;302777 said:
Australia to win 3-2.

Our one day bowlers are better than our test bowlers so i expect a much better performance.

I'll change than to an Australian 4-1 win.

South Africa no chance to win the series in my opinion.
 
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Jolldo87;310485 said:
I'll change than to an Australian 4-1 win.

South Africa no chance to win the series in my opinion.

I disagree Jolldo I think if the South African team functions properly then they will be in for a good chance of winning. Take this line up for example:

1. H. Gibbs - veteran of 234 mathces with an average of 36.18
2. H. Amla - Hasn't played much odi cricket but has alot of talent.
3. J. Kallis - Veteran of 283 matches. Averages 45.27 (bat) and 31.45 (ball)
4. A.B. De Villiers - has done well in odis so far with an average of 36.40.
5. J.P. Duminy - A bright star with an average of 35.56 so far.
6. V. Van Jaarsveld - An up and coming player has good potential.
7. M. Boucher- Anohter Veteran with an average of 28.86.
8. A. Morkel- Enormous hitter and averages 27.07 with the ball.
9. J. Botha - A good captain as well as a handy bowler.
10. D. Steyn - A very good bowler and will trouble the aussies.
11. M. Ntini - An experienced campaginer with an average of 24.24.
 
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Australia 4-1.

Its ben a long tour for the SAffers, who willwant to go home ASAP and regroup for the Test series in SA
 
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grapedo;310565 said:
I disagree Jolldo I think if the South African team functions properly then they will be in for a good chance of winning. Take this line up for example:

1. H. Gibbs - veteran of 234 mathces with an average of 36.18
2. H. Amla - Hasn't played much odi cricket but has alot of talent.
3. J. Kallis - Veteran of 283 matches. Averages 45.27 (bat) and 31.45 (ball)
4. A.B. De Villiers - has done well in odis so far with an average of 36.40.
5. J.P. Duminy - A bright star with an average of 35.56 so far.
6. V. Van Jaarsveld - An up and coming player has good potential.
7. M. Boucher- Anohter Veteran with an average of 28.86.
8. A. Morkel- Enormous hitter and averages 27.07 with the ball.
9. J. Botha - A good captain as well as a handy bowler.
10. D. Steyn - A very good bowler and will trouble the aussies.
11. M. Ntini - An experienced campaginer with an average of 24.24.

Good team, the one I'd have if I was Botha, but I don't think it is good enough to beat the Aussies over a 5 match series. I stand by my original 4-1 tip. If we do indeed lose then feel free to have a go at me and tell me why I am wrong.
 
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Mousey;310900 said:
Good team, the one I'd have if I was Botha, but I don't think it is good enough to beat the Aussies over a 5 match series. I stand by my original 4-1 tip. If we do indeed lose then feel free to have a go at me and tell me why I am wrong.


HAHA ! :D good one Mousey.

Here is the Australian side in comparison:
1. S. Marsh - Still has to porve himself in odis. But has the ability to start.
2. M. Clarke - The in form batsman and highly talented may be tested by a swinging new ball though.
3. R. Ponting - A legend. Needs to have a big series though.
4. M. Hussey - Very good odi player in bad form of late though.
5. D. Hussey - Good domestic player now needs to prove himself.
6. C. White - A potential weakness as he has been tryed and failed.
7. B. Haddin - Should prove handy with the bat.
8. J. Hopes - Handy batsman and bowler. Could be a deciding factor.
9. N. Bracken - Best odi bowler in the world. Very handy at the death.
10. B. Hilfenhaus - Yet to prove himself at odi level, will need to bowl well as there will be a target on his head.
11. S. Tait - Seems like the South Africans play him better this time around he will also need to bowl well as he will be targetted.
 
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As the summaries show both teams have immense talent. But both teams also have inexperienced players who still need to prove themselves at this level , Australia more so than SOuth Africa.

If things go right for South Africa then I think it will be a very close series. I just think 4-1 is a bit too one sided and can only see it happening if South Africa don't bat decently.

But this is unlikely as they have talent through out the side and as long as decent partnerships are formed then they shouldn't have any trouble.
 
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grapedo;310565 said:
I disagree Jolldo I think if the South African team functions properly then they will be in for a good chance of winning. Take this line up for example:

1. H. Gibbs - veteran of 234 mathces with an average of 36.18
2. H. Amla - Hasn't played much odi cricket but has alot of talent.
3. J. Kallis - Veteran of 283 matches. Averages 45.27 (bat) and 31.45 (ball)
4. A.B. De Villiers - has done well in odis so far with an average of 36.40.
5. J.P. Duminy - A bright star with an average of 35.56 so far.
6. V. Van Jaarsveld - An up and coming player has good potential.
7. M. Boucher- Anohter Veteran with an average of 28.86.
8. A. Morkel- Enormous hitter and averages 27.07 with the ball.
9. J. Botha - A good captain as well as a handy bowler.
10. D. Steyn - A very good bowler and will trouble the aussies.
11. M. Ntini - An experienced campaginer with an average of 24.24.

Only one batsman averaging over 40. That's a pretty ordinary batting line up.
 
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Jolldo87;311124 said:
Only one batsman averaging over 40. That's a pretty ordinary batting line up.

Well I don't see the mid 30s as a bad odi batting average sorry mate. Anyway Australia now have to pull their fingers out.
 
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grapedo;311638 said:
Well I don't see the mid 30s as a bad odi batting average sorry mate. Anyway Australia now have to pull their fingers out.
Disagree.

We dont have to "pull our fingers out" as you put it.

Was a very close game that you even said that you nearly turned the TV off when you were 7/222 or whatever.

Our bowlers will regroup and look to be a little more cunning against Morkel.
 
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Biggie;311773 said:
Disagree.

We dont have to "pull our fingers out" as you put it.

Was a very close game that you even said that you nearly turned the TV off when you were 7/222 or whatever.

Our bowlers will regroup and look to be a little more cunning against Morkel.


The bowlers weren't at their best but it was unfortunate they had to bowl to a big hitting Morkel in the batting powerplay. It wasn't like the field was spread and because of bad bowling he kept clearing fielders. It was because they were only aloud 3 fielders on the boundary.

So you saying the bowlers will regroup makes little sense TBH.

If anything they through it away at 3 -90 when Duminy scored 73 and didn't hit a boundary. They should have had more agreesive field placements and tried to pick up another 2 or 3 wickets. The last 5 overs were always going to happean as long as they had batsman at the wicket which in this case they do.

And Australia do need to pull their fingers out if they cruise along they will find themselves 3-0 down after 3 games.

Are you implying that they will still manage to win without having to put in more effort than last night because if you are that is downright stupid.
 
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grapedo;311804 said:
Are you implying that they will still manage to win without having to put in more effort than last night because if you are that is downright stupid.

There wasn't much more they could do Grapedo. The bowled well, Tait was deadly, they batted well, South Africa just got the better of them on the day. Could've gone either way.
 
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breeno;311818 said:
There wasn't much more they could do Grapedo. The bowled well, Tait was deadly, they batted well, South Africa just got the better of them on the day. Could've gone either way.

They should have been more agreesive with field placements and the like though IMO.
 
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