How do you rate south Africa's one day chances

[Biggie]

Re: How do you rate south Africa's one day chances

So you saying the bowlers will regroup makes little sense TBH.

How so?

A slogger comes in late and takes the game away from us.

The bowlers will get together, formulate a plan and try to remedy where they went wrong last night.

Hence the term regroup. @|

If anything they through it away at 3 -90 when Duminy scored 73 and didn't hit a boundary. They should have had more agreesive field placements and tried to pick up another 2 or 3 wickets. The last 5 overs were always going to happean as long as they had batsman at the wicket which in this case they do.

I didnt see SA put in these "aggressive" field placements at all when DUSS and Marsh were flowing? Its an ODI not a test match, this happens all the time. That point is null and void.

And Australia do need to pull their fingers out if they cruise along they will find themselves 3-0 down after 3 games.

Rubbish.

They were beaten at the end by a slogger who had the good fortune of a batting powerplay left to play with.

To say anything but is clouded and lacking knowledge.

Are you implying that they will still manage to win without having to put in more effort than last night because if you are that is downright stupid

Would you like to rephrase this post?

They put in a gallant effort but Morkel was too good on the night. We took 4/8 to drag ourselves back into the match.

Pretty impressive effort there if I do say myself. @|

They should have been more agreesive with field placements and the like though IMO.

ODI, not a test match. Refer above post.

You won, but we will come at you much, much harder tomorrow.

Brace yourself. @|

 

[fmr_13]

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The spotlight hasn't been shone too hardly on Ricky this time around.

South Africa might want to sharpen up their fielding a tad, looks different when you haven't got AB De Villiers catching everything that comes near him.

I think Botha used the batting powerplay and the bowling powerplay to his advantage much more than Ponting.

Are we slowly seeing a change of the guard at the forefront of world cricket ?

 

[Jolldo87]

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Are you implying that they will still manage to win without having to put in more effort than last night because if you are that is downright stupid.

That is one of the most ludicrous comments i have ever read on this forum.

To suggest Australia weren't giving 100% effort is a joke. We gave all the effort we could, got a bit unlucky and came up short. We won't increase our effort because you can't put in more than 100%.

We will play with the same effort tomorrow and hopefully things will go our way and we will come out with a win.

 

[grapedo]

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Exactly you said it yourself Morkel is an agressive batsman who had the advantage of a powerplay with him. It had nothing to do with the bowlers hence they don't need to regroup.

And you answered that question yourself when you said " I didn't see South Africa setting agressive fields when Duss and Marsh were flowing" exactly they were flowing.

Would you say South Africa were flowing at 3-90 with two new batsman but the field placements were too defensive hence Duminy and Mckenzie got set and were basically given 50s like bread and butter Duminy didn't even hit a boundary. So at 3-90 with two new batsman why don't you have an agressive field toput more pressure on instead of letting them pick singles and get set.

And I mean an odi agressive field such as a slip, gully, point, cover,mid off, mid on, mid wicket, sqaure leg and Fine leg. Not a test match one which is 3 slips, a gully, a point, cover, mid on, sqaure leg and fine leg but if you consider these fields as identical then you keep thinking that.

And the phrase "pull the finger out" means work hard, focus hard an improve to achieve something which is obviously what Australia need to do because their effort on Firday didn't get them a win did it ?

 

[grapedo]

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The spotlight hasn't been shone too hardly on Ricky this time around.

South Africa might want to sharpen up their fielding a tad, looks different when you haven't got AB De Villiers catching everything that comes near him.

I think Botha used the batting powerplay and the bowling powerplay to his advantage much more than Ponting.

Are we slowly seeing a change of the guard at the forefront of world cricket ?

I think we are.

 

[grapedo]

Re: How do you rate south Africa's one day chances

That is one of the most ludicrous comments i have ever read on this forum.

To suggest Australia weren't giving 100% effort is a joke. We gave all the effort we could, got a bit unlucky and came up short. We won't increase our effort because you can't put in more than 100%.

We will play with the same effort tomorrow and hopefully things will go our way and we will come out with a win.

They may have put in 100% but they will need to put in more than that this time.

But how can you say we will put in the same ammount of effort and hope things go our way. Hoping dosen't win matches I am sorry.

Australian teams of the past never had that defeatist outlook they had skill and talent and they would always improve and that is what made them a good side. They could say well we want to do this better or that better not say hopefully things go our way and we get the result.

That is ludicrous my friend.

And if you could kindly point out the sentence where I said Australia weren't putting in 100 % that would be terrific as I was merely suggesting they would need to put in 110% this time around.

 

[Biggie]

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Excellent.

So even after Australia's "lackluster" performance on Fri night we can take heart in knowing we only just lost in the final over

We can be filled with hope and confidence that while South Africa played at their absolute best they didn't beat us comprehensively.

You should be worried about tomorrows game then, as we wont "cruise" after going down 1-0, going by your very own argument.

But as you have said, you are completely biased to the SA and wont take anyone saying anything bad about them. @|

 

[grapedo]

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Excellent.

So even after Australia's "lackluster" performance on Fri night we can take heart in knowing we only just lost in the final over

We can be filled with hope and confidence that while South Africa played at their absolute best they didn't beat us comprehensively.

You should be worried about tomorrows game then, as we wont "cruise" after going down 1-0, going by your very own argument.

But as you have said, you are completely biased to the SA and wont take anyone saying anything bad about them. @|

Ah... I never said South Africa were playing at their absoultue best or I am biased towards South Africa but that is fine just twist words and that sort of thing.

 

[Biggie]

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Anyway Australia now have to pull their fingers out.

To suggest Australia weren't giving 100% effort is a joke.

And if you could kindly point out the sentence where I said Australia weren't putting in 100 % that would be terrific as I was merely suggesting they would need to put in 110% this time around.

Now, now, no need for semantics.

Jolldo posted that you suggested we didn't play with 100% commitment which you did.

Just because you didn't actually write that doesn't mean you weren't implying it.

 

[grapedo]

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Now, now, no need for semantics.

Jolldo posted that you suggested we didn't play with 100% commitment which you did.

Just because you didn't actually write that doesn't mean you weren't implying it.

Pull the fingers out means work harder which is what they have to do. I didn't say they weren't going at 100 %.

Now,now there is no need to twist someone's words.

 

[Biggie]

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Ah... I never said South Africa were playing at their absoultue best .

Quite correct. In fact you have only gone on about Australias short comings and not even posted anything about your adopted team. My apologies.

or I am biased towards South Africa but that is fine just twist words and that sort of thing.

Didn't you?

Hi guys I am Grapedo.
I came from another site similar to this which i can not mention and i got permanently banned. But the system was flaunted so I was happy to go. I support South Africa although I am an Australian (sorry but i can't help it). I am very biased towards the south africans and don't like people jumping to bad con clusions about them. Hope we can all be friends.
Thanks again.

Seems you did.

Cant argue with someone who isnt prepared to listen to both sides now can I?

Enjoy the game tomorrow, I certainly will. @|

 

[grapedo]

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Quite correct. In fact you have only gone on about Australias short comings and not even posted anything about your adopted team. My apologies.



Didn't you?



Seems you did.

Cant argue with someone who isnt prepared to listen to both sides now can I?

Enjoy the game tomorrow, I certainly will. @|

Well there is a thing called a joke but anyway. And is have fun enjoying the game tommorow going to back fire on you like "have fun watching from the sidelines tommorow" because I had lots of fun wathcing you lose the gf.

 

[Biggie]

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Pull the fingers out means work harder which is what they have to do. I didn't say they weren't going at 100 %.

Now,now there is no need to twist someone's words.

I haven't twisted anything. Its quite clear for all to see.

How does one work harder than 100%? It doesn't happen sorry, not in reality anyway.

Yes there are sayings I'm going to give 110% but in actual fact its still only 100%.

Anyway its off topic. @|

 

[Biggie]

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Well there is a thing called a joke but anyway. And is have fun enjoying the game tommorow going to back fire on you like "have fun watching from the sidelines tommorow" because I had lots of fun wathcing you lose the gf.

Relevance to topic?

 

[grapedo]

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I haven't twisted anything. Its quite clear for all to see.

How does one work harder than 100%? It doesn't happen sorry, not in reality anyway.

Yes there are sayings I'm going to give 110% but in actual fact its still only 100%.

Anyway its off topic. @|

You are correct about it being off topic but believe it or not 110% means you will do more than what is expected. And yes you can get more than 100% do you know what inflation is ??? or is that ti broad for you ? because I would like to know what the current inflation level in Zimbabwe stands out ? I think you will find that is more than 100%.

 

[grapedo]

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Relevance to topic?

Actually it is quite relevant because it shows your bold statements can and do often backfire as the one you made may just do the same.

 

[Biggie]

Re: How do you rate south Africa's one day chances

Did you just bring up Zimbabwe inflation in a thread titled "How do you rate South Africa's one day chances"

Your last post makes no sense.

Take a breath, no need to be so serious.

Anyway I'll leave you be.

Enjoy the game. @|

 

[grapedo]

Re: How do you rate south Africa's one day chances

Did you just bring up Zimbabwe inflation in a thread titled "How do you rate South Africa's one day chances"

Your last post makes no sense.

Take a breath, no need to be so serious.

Anyway I'll leave you be.

Enjoy the game. @|

Yes I beleive I did because you said in reality you cannoy get or do more than 100% so I used my wider knowledge to find an example of where it does in fact comply. So it does make sense and it is relevant perhaps not for you though but that's okay.

 

[Buddy23#]

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Yes I beleive I did because you said in reality you cannoy get or do more than 100% so I used my wider knowledge to find an example of where it does in fact comply. So it does make sense and it is relevant perhaps not for you though but that's okay.

We're going to flog your adopted team today, i've never been so sure of anything.

 

[Jolldo87]

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They may have put in 100% but they will need to put in more than that this time.

That's impossible mate.

Physically impossible. You cannot have more than 100%.

But how can you say we will put in the same ammount of effort and hope things go our way. Hoping dosen't win matches I am sorry.

Had things gone out right for us Friday night we would have won. The didn't and we lost.

Australian teams of the past never had that defeatist outlook they had skill and talent and they would always improve and that is what made them a good side. They could say well we want to do this better or that better not say hopefully things go our way and we get the result.

That is ludicrous my friend.

We have skill and talent and that's why it'll be a hard fought series.. We will try to improve obviously but not in effort, rather in application of the skills we possess. Simple things like playing the right shots, bowling yorkers rather than half volleys and stopping silly misfields is what we can and hopefully will improve.

And if you could kindly point out the sentence where I said Australia weren't putting in 100 % that would be terrific as I was merely suggesting they would need to put in 110% this time around.

You said Australia need to put in more effort. You can't have more than 100% so obviously you were saying we put in less than 100%.

Until you work out that a percentage is a number out of 100 and that number cannot be bigger than 100 i think it's best you don't use percentages in any of your arguments.