NMCA(formerly Jika) '08/'09

[TA25]

Re: NMCA(formerly Jika) '08/'09

Your right young fella its not the first time something like this has happened, the first time was your ump throwing an elbow at our incoming bowler (last season) so in the words of your president that likes to pm other people on this site "pull ya head in!"
As i said in my previous post our player deserved what he got 100% he did the wrong thing ,but in my 15yrs of cricket when an ump gives "not out" normally its the bowler that is unhappy, im yet to see an ump give not out and be so upset by it that it comes to blows! clearly the bowler had something to say so dont paint the picture the other way.

I'm not trying to paint the picture any other way than the way i seen it...I gave my version of the incident because on this forum we are being called sooks for doing the right thing, in reporting him..I am also happy with the result of the tribuneral.

 

[duckman]

Re: NMCA(formerly Jika) '08/'09

crusty dont have a problem with you voicing the concerns youre club had about taking the field on saturday but dont have a go at the umpires about duty of care , have a go at the president of the association for not having the spine to make the call . the decision was left up to the umpires and the 2 captains to agree on the conditions i will print you word for word the text msg that was sent on sat at 11.35 am . i would ask that u speak to mr anderson and ask him where the jika executives duty of care to both the players and umpires was on sat. once again the executive has thrown the umpires in the shit and made them out to be the bad guys for making decisions for the executive .i wonder if rosebank had of rolled nth utd for 87 would we have played? what was the president doing drinking piss at alphington park when there was all the crap going down at main st ? what was he doing telling the 2 so called independant umpires MAKE SURE YOU GET A START ! i am sick and tired of the umpires and( i will admit we do get it wrong) being shit canned for every thing that goes wrong in this comp . WE ARE NOT INDEPENDANT WE ARE TOLD WHAT TO DO AND WHEN TO DO IT ! there is a bias towards certain clubs as was the case on saturday . why defend the umpires ? because i am one and sick of copping crap from ill informed people who havent got a clue as to what is really going on in this comp ! shit can me if u want i dont care but a few of u need a reality check as to what is really going on . how would all u guys out there from all the different clubs be feeling right now if at the end of the game youre captain was given the all clear by both umpires only to find out on monday that he has been reported fro unfair play by the president of jika . why ? because he asked the umpires for another 5 mins for the ground to dry out ! i know i was there this is total and utter bias . WHY DONT YOU JUST SAY YOU WANT CERTAIN CLUBS OUT OF THE COMP BILL AND BE DONE WITH IT ! THATS RIGHT I FORGOT YOURE A JELLYFISH - SPINELESS u let every one else do youre job and take all the credit !

Hear Hear.

Very well said and i totally agree with everything you have to say.
It should never have gotten to this stage because play should have been called off at 12pm.
I don't care what anyone has to say because no ground was in any state to play on sat. If you think i'm being biased then think again because i actually batted on sat !!

It was unfair for any team bowling on sat and it was left up to the umpires once again because the pres of the comp wanted to get a result for his best mate MARCON.

Why would Bill Anderson be at Northcote DRINKING BEER(i thought officials aren't allowed to drink on the job) and watching that game when he should have been at Main St sorting out the crap that HE left for others to handle.

Hey OX.......

What is the penalty for an official drinking during duty??

What was Bill doing drinking anyway........ahhhhhhh maybe celebrating??

 

[paul collingwood]

Re: NMCA(formerly Jika) '08/'09

personally cant see a problem with a bloke having 1 or 2 beers while watching a game ,shows the clubs that he's human, you carry on like he was out of control or something. the guy cant be everywhere.
will you refuse to sell him a beer next week if he is at your ground having a look? dont think so!
short memorys of how the comp has been run in the past some of you blokes

 

[duckman]

Re: NMCA(formerly Jika) '08/'09

personally cant see a problem with a bloke having 1 or 2 beers while watching a game ,shows the clubs that he's human, you carry on like he was out of control or something. the guy cant be everywhere.
will you refuse to sell him a beer next week if he is at your ground having a look? dont think so!
short memorys of how the comp has been run in the past some of you blokes

Yeah i suppose your right hey.....

Let me see.......Yep i'd be rapt if my UMPIRE for the day had a couple of qiuet ones before and during play

Fair dinkum have you got any idea pal??????

Society is governed by rules.

It's pretty clear to me... If there's a rule in place you either stick to it or break it, can't have it both ways.

And by the way where are the blokes who used to run the comp.....yeah that's right they didn't need to abide by rules either that's why they were given the arse!!

 

[canplay1]

Re: NMCA(formerly Jika) '08/'09

Hear Hear.

Very well said and i totally agree with everything you have to say.
It should never have gotten to this stage because play should have been called off at 12pm.
I don't care what anyone has to say because no ground was in any state to play on sat. If you think i'm being biased then think again because i actually batted on sat !!

It was unfair for any team bowling on sat and it was left up to the umpires once again because the pres of the comp wanted to get a result for his best mate MARCON.

Why would Bill Anderson be at Northcote DRINKING BEER(i thought officials aren't allowed to drink on the job) and watching that game when he should have been at Main St sorting out the crap that HE left for others to handle.

Hey OX.......

What is the penalty for an official drinking during duty??

What was Bill doing drinking anyway........ahhhhhhh maybe celebrating??

I dont think bill should be drinking on the job. at the end of the day he is a paid employee so this sounds pretty poor to me. i dont know many jobs which allow the consumption of alcohol even if it is only a social drink. i reckon this is a pretty bad look from nmca. then again just goes to show why the comp receives little respect from everyone else in the cricket community. some how this comp always seem to stuff it up.lol does anyone on nmca board understand the meaning of leadership, the prez is a lame duck.

 

[paul collingwood]

Re: NMCA(formerly Jika) '08/'09

Yeah i suppose your right hey.....

Let me see.......Yep i'd be rapt if my UMPIRE for the day had a couple of qiuet ones before and during play

Fair dinkum have you got any idea pal??????

Society is governed by rules.

It's pretty clear to me... If there's a rule in place you either stick to it or break it, can't have it both ways.

And by the way where are the blokes who used to run the comp.....yeah that's right they didn't need to abide by rules either that's why they were given the arse!!

bill anderson was your ump for the day? if so fair enough shouldnt be drinking, but i would think thats also a pretty good reason why he wouldnt be at the other game, wouldnt you?

 

[northmetroboy]

Re: NMCA(formerly Jika) '08/'09

Yeah i suppose your right hey.....

Let me see.......Yep i'd be rapt if my UMPIRE for the day had a couple of qiuet ones before and during play

Fair dinkum have you got any idea pal??????

Society is governed by rules.

It's pretty clear to me... If there's a rule in place you either stick to it or break it, can't have it both ways.

And by the way where are the blokes who used to run the comp.....yeah that's right they didn't need to abide by rules either that's why they were given the arse!!

lets not forget bill anderson is not aligned with any club, let the man have a beer if he wants, the comp is in good shape and you whingers should leave before he does. was it a bad decision to play on saturday, 3 out of 4 games in A grade got completed???? are we here to play cricket or cards?

 

[duckman]

Re: NMCA(formerly Jika) '08/'09

bill anderson was your ump for the day? if so fair enough shouldnt be drinking, but i would think thats also a pretty good reason why he wouldnt be at the other game, wouldnt you?

Listen very carefully coz i'll explain it slowly for you.

If your an offical of the NMCA whether it be umpire or pres you should not be drinking on the job!!

 

[Muppet]

Re: NMCA(formerly Jika) '08/'09

lets not forget bill anderson is not aligned with any club, let the man have a beer if he wants, the comp is in good shape and you whingers should leave before he does. was it a bad decision to play on saturday, 3 out of 4 games in A grade got completed???? are we here to play cricket or cards?

Can't believe some of the sooking that's going on here on this forum, At the end of the day you have to ask yourself what people would be saying if the round was called at 12.00? would we be hearing that nmca is looking after rosebank? i reckon we would! nmca exec had to make a judgement call on saturday morning and how can anyone say it was wrong? 3/4 of a grade games were completed to me that would suggest they probably made at the very least a reasonable decision. When that decision goes against your personal preference you just have to cop it! that's cricket.

 

[Muppet]

Re: NMCA(formerly Jika) '08/'09

Listen very carefully coz i'll explain it slowly for you.

If your an offical of the NMCA whether it be umpire or pres you should not be drinking on the job!!

and hes not an umpire or pres! well played

 

[duckman]

Re: NMCA(formerly Jika) '08/'09

lets not forget bill anderson is not aligned with any club, let the man have a beer if he wants, the comp is in good shape and you whingers should leave before he does. was it a bad decision to play on saturday, 3 out of 4 games in A grade got completed???? are we here to play cricket or cards?

This is like banging your head up against a brick wall....

If there is a RULE in place wherby an offical or board member of the NMCA is NOT allowed to consume alcohol whilst working then he shouldn't.

RULES ARE RULES that's all i'm saying

 

[duckman]

Re: NMCA(formerly Jika) '08/'09

and hes not an umpire or pres! well played

So Administrators are excempt from any rules then.

Oh by the way MUPPET for the record i played sat and BATTED.

 

[Muppet]

Re: NMCA(formerly Jika) '08/'09

So Administrators are excempt from any rules then.

Mate tell us all the rule then. You obviously know the rules, i don't have a rule book on hand and am not sure like yourself on all the ins and outs of nmca rules but he wasn't officiating at that game and was there as a spectator, why can't he have a couple? u say shouldnt drink while working well whats his work hours? can he have a beer while clubs are training on a thursday? what about on a sunday when jika has a rep game being played somewhere? Fair enough if ya dont like a bloke but lets not get uptight about a bloke having a beer watching some cricket

 

[canplay1]

Re: NMCA(formerly Jika) '08/'09

Mate tell us all the rule then. You obviously know the rules, i don't have a rule book on hand and am not sure like yourself on all the ins and outs of nmca rules but he wasn't officiating at that game and was there as a spectator, why can't he have a couple? u say shouldnt drink while working well whats his work hours? can he have a beer while clubs are training on a thursday? what about on a sunday when jika has a rep game being played somewhere? Fair enough if ya dont like a bloke but lets not get uptight about a bloke having a beer watching some cricket

from what i have gathred by speaking to an ump it was bill that reported rosebank captain. i stand to be corrected but the ump was adamant it was bill, so if this is correct he was on duty & drink p1ss!!!!

 

[crusty]

Re: NMCA(formerly Jika) '08/'09

Does anyone know what the outcome was at the tribunal tonite for rosebank & socials?

rosebanks case thrown out socials captain got 2 matches and i got 2 matches 4 calling umpire a weasel.had a interesting conversation with tribunal jason mcgann copped 4 weeks from tribunal 4 calling an umpire a cheat and it got downgraded to 1 week if he umpired a senior game which he didnt he did a junior game which tribunal was shitty with cause bill decided once again by himself to go against the tribunal.cheat or weasel wots worse.

 

[crusty]

Re: NMCA(formerly Jika) '08/'09

crusty dont have a problem with you voicing the concerns youre club had about taking the field on saturday but dont have a go at the umpires about duty of care , have a go at the president of the association for not having the spine to make the call . the decision was left up to the umpires and the 2 captains to agree on the conditions i will print you word for word the text msg that was sent on sat at 11.35 am . i would ask that u speak to mr anderson and ask him where the jika executives duty of care to both the players and umpires was on sat. once again the executive has thrown the umpires in the shit and made them out to be the bad guys for making decisions for the executive .i wonder if rosebank had of rolled nth utd for 87 would we have played? what was the president doing drinking piss at alphington park when there was all the crap going down at main st ? what was he doing telling the 2 so called independant umpires MAKE SURE YOU GET A START ! i am sick and tired of the umpires and( i will admit we do get it wrong) being shit canned for every thing that goes wrong in this comp . WE ARE NOT INDEPENDANT WE ARE TOLD WHAT TO DO AND WHEN TO DO IT ! there is a bias towards certain clubs as was the case on saturday . why defend the umpires ? because i am one and sick of copping crap from ill informed people who havent got a clue as to what is really going on in this comp ! shit can me if u want i dont care but a few of u need a reality check as to what is really going on . how would all u guys out there from all the different clubs be feeling right now if at the end of the game youre captain was given the all clear by both umpires only to find out on monday that he has been reported fro unfair play by the president of jika . why ? because he asked the umpires for another 5 mins for the ground to dry out ! i know i was there this is total and utter bias . WHY DONT YOU JUST SAY YOU WANT CERTAIN CLUBS OUT OF THE COMP BILL AND BE DONE WITH IT ! THATS RIGHT I FORGOT YOURE A JELLYFISH - SPINELESS u let every one else do youre job and take all the credit !

well said exspecially bill part

 

[Cotchin Boys]

Re: NMCA(formerly Jika) '08/'09

from what i have gathred by speaking to an ump it was bill that reported rosebank captain. i stand to be corrected but the ump was adamant it was bill, so if this is correct he was on duty & drink p1ss!!!!

If it is true that he was drinking while he was acting in his role as an official then his services should be terminated by the association as soon as possible.
It’s a poor reflection of the competition to have the general manager of the competition carrying on in that manner while performing his duties. Surely the competition executive won’t condone that type of behavior.

 

[breeno]

Re: NMCA(formerly Jika) '08/'09

In my time with the Socials i have enjoyed majority of it. This is my second year at the club (playing both under 17's and 3rd's). And what happened was rubbish. Now we all know, when we are playing without umpires its going to be a little hard getting decisions your way, in frustration our bowler said something on line's of you've set the standard. The acting umpire then comfronted the bowler in a very agressive manor, with both of his team mates (the batters) trying to get him away from getting himself in trouble, we called for a new umpire and made things worse, he took the bat out of the batsmen hand and if he had gotten in striking range he probably would have used it, this bloke did make contact with our player and continued to argue as he was being escorted off the field. As he was exiting the playing area i said in general "It's Rivergum boys, they havnt changed" (as we have had abit of a rivalry in the past 2 year beating them in last years grand final against the odds, and after we moved up a division i thought that would be the last we had to deal with them), probably not the right time to say it but he turned to me and wanted to continue the argument/fight with myself (a 16 year old, second year cricketer) i got no problems with that, as playing i'm playing with men. But the player then continued to argue with our supporters, which included woman and children.

This behavior should not be accepted in local cricket particulary in 'E' grade the 8th division in NMCA.

The player got a deserved 2 games suspension, even though a 1 match suspension in round 11 would have been more fitting as thats when we play them again. I hope we are given an umpire for the round 11 clash.

Now to call us little kids crying to the tribuneral is rediculous, why should anybody be made to put up with that crap at any level?

Its fair to say it goes both ways with Socials and Rivergum's thirds, but last year when a Socials player refused to shake one of our guys hands, who needs to put up with that crap?

 

[breeno]

Re: NMCA(formerly Jika) '08/'09

I never said they wernt good blokes (or meant to say it, if i said something along the lines of that in my previous post), but this is not the first incident that has occured between us and thier 3rd's (thier 4th last year, is pretty much the same team this year), i think the thing that put me off them was last year i was giving abit of talk in the field (As you do) nothing over board, but when i went to say well batted to their captain and shake his hand he pretty much said go away and wouldnt shake my hand, thats what hurt me most playing against them might have been my 10th game or so. And he was fired up long before i said anything.

I dont mean to say everyone from Rivergum is bad, dont mind playing against their juniors, but its just something with their 3rd's from my own experience.

I'm not too worried about the incident, its just that we're being called crying kids, when we are the one's who were abused and if anything similar happens it should be reported to make a cleaner and more enjoyable environment to play cricket in.

I highly doubt our 3rds captain wouldn't shake a kids hand.

First thing I heard of the non hand shaking incident was one of the socials blokes last year, but everyone has different perceptions.

 

[northmetroboy]

Re: NMCA(formerly Jika) '08/'09

Yeah i suppose your right hey.....

Let me see.......Yep i'd be rapt if my UMPIRE for the day had a couple of qiuet ones before and during play

Fair dinkum have you got any idea pal??????

Society is governed by rules.

It's pretty clear to me... If there's a rule in place you either stick to it or break it, can't have it both ways.

And by the way where are the blokes who used to run the comp.....yeah that's right they didn't need to abide by rules either that's why they were given the arse!!

you bag the previous admin and the current admin, will you ever be happy?? why dont you put your hand up???

the previous admin had the comp running poorly with corruption rumuors rife.....the comp is now running pretty smoothly and if NMCA board members cannot have a beer or two whilst enjoying the local cricket, we are all really wasting our time....surely its not that serious(i dont think he was blind drunk, which would be unnacceptable). I would suggest if he were umpiring he would merely be filling in.....I would also suggest 95% of his work is done during the week and the other 5% would be repsonding to whinges on Saturdays!!!

play or no play on saturday, whingers will come, fact was it was day2 and it was a sensible decision to see what happens, that should always be the case on Day2...each ground is different.