North A and B 09/10

[Its crunch time]

re: North A and B 10/11

Disappointed yes, cheated out of any chance to try and make the grand final even more, and as for money if you got it why not spend it. you also have to look at the bright side of spending money, it doesnt only help reinforce our 1s team it helps out with our future ones team. Both Jonesy and Macca at best helped our younger players with both bat and ball and i garruntee that there presence and coaching helped out alot at our club, so if you see it as trying to buy a premiership then good on ya, because i see it as building a club and the younger players by bringing in more experienced cricketers.

Fair point and i hope them boy's continue to develop your younger guy's, can you confirm Macca will be there this year ??? Alot of crap gets said bu you dont know what to believe ! Cheated probably , no doubt Werribee are one of the shiftiest teams going around . Im just glad they woke up to themselves and got rid of Phil Crea the weird unit !!! But with the team you guy's had you's should have finished top 2 easy! Not to be , an i look forward to play against you guy's this year .

 

[BigCoq]

re: North A and B 10/11

If you see from my previous post any person with half a brain would know that i am from St Albans, theres no use for stupid ignorant comments like "YOU MUST BE FROM ST ALBANS." and as for money i know for damn sure that our club works bloody hard to get it, and what is it your business to criticise how we spend it. This is the same topic you criticised Standrewsman about, but seing as we are talking about it, how much has your club spent at most on one player in the history of your club?

I know ur from StAlbans precious. ur humour leave a little to be desired my good man. Mate have i hit a nerve if so sorry i dont care what u pay really. We have only ever paid the coach we dont have a footy club to support us or Pokies we are just a stand alone Cricket Club battling away in B grade.
Sorry to get u all worked up it was tongue in cheek.

 

[Over_Throw_for_4]

re: North A and B 10/11

Fair point and i hope them boy's continue to develop your younger guy's, can you confirm Macca will be there this year ??? Alot of crap gets said bu you dont know what to believe ! Cheated probably , no doubt Werribee are one of the shiftiest teams going around . Im just glad they woke up to themselves and got rid of Phil Crea the weird unit !!! But with the team you guy's had you's should have finished top 2 easy! Not to be , an i look forward to play against you guy's this year .

From my knowledge macca is playing on next season, Macca is a really big influence on our younger players and to have him for another year is a plus for our club, as for cutoverslips46 from what i know the bloke plays for werribee and as usual talks alot of shit so dont listen to him at all, from what you are saying you are coming up from north B from the sounds of it? which of the 2 sides you from, looking forward to a great season ahead.

 

[FatMan_fromthe_Valley]

re: North A and B 10/11

Few years back a couple of players at Avondale were on 10K+

 

[BigCoq]

re: North A and B 10/11

I just love my money, is there a problem with that? I like to find out to see if paying players down here is worth it. Also wanna know what the jump is in prices between A and B. Finding out what others are doing helps with working out what we want to do as a club, talking to people, finding players. You wouldnt wanna waste time chasing up on people if they already are committed somewhere else. any info is better than no info. And being happy at the club, how can I not be, great club to be at, you should come down and see for yourself lol.

Well yes there is a problem ur being a sticky nose you should focus on your own back yard and not others...
If you want to set a new course for StAndrews and start paying players then pay what you think you can afford as a club not what others think now thats real leadership...
r u on the committee their?
u asked what other clubs pay in different grades and there is no real answer only guestimates?
The right answer is pay what u can afford end of story.... just because you pay more doesnt mean you have a better chance at success.....

 

[Over_Throw_for_4]

re: North A and B 10/11

Few years back a couple of players at Avondale were on 10K+

That they would of, you would think Jeffrey's and Albers would of got there fair shares.

 

[Over_Throw_for_4]

re: North A and B 10/11

Well yes there is a problem ur being a sticky nose you should focus on your own back yard and not others...
If you want to set a new course for StAndrews and start paying players then pay what you think you can afford as a club not what others think now thats real leadership...
r u on the committee their?
u asked what other clubs pay in different grades and there is no real answer only guestimates?
The right answer is pay what u can afford end of story.... just because you pay more doesnt mean you have a better chance at success.....

well put mate. concentrating on other clubs just puts you behind the 8 ball come first game. If you think knowing how much others are paying is going to get you anywhere, think again. keep an eye on your own blokes, spend wat you can to better there game and dont worry about other players and there clubs.

 

[koh phi phi 3]

re: North A and B 10/11

money does not and will not buy success all the time..I cant believe how some clubs can throw 15-18 grand at one player.. Look at this seasons grand finalists.. MV probably spread that amount over 3 players and WC by the sounds of it didnt even come close to spending that sort of cash.. Yeah so good on clubs for working hard and earning it but its HOW YOU SPEND IT that makes the difference in my opinion.
Remember as well as getting a good cricketer you also need to get GOOD BLOKES that wont ruin the fabric of the club and actually add to the atmosphere..
So if a club has 18 to spend on a fast bowler and he takes say 35 wickets and only atays 1 season would you say it has been succesful??
From what ive heard MV had Pridham and Harding that took nearly 60 wickets between them for a grand total cost of under 4g's..both will be back again..

 

[CheeQuee]

re: North A and B 10/11

well put mate. concentrating on other clubs just puts you behind the 8 ball come first game. If you think knowing how much others are paying is going to get you anywhere, think again. keep an eye on your own blokes, spend wat you can to better there game and dont worry about other players and there clubs.

St Andrews will be ok, they were pretty competitive last season and although they didn't get up for a win they weren't getting their butts kicked week in week out. It's only made the division stronger having these new clubs come in and i'm sure everybody would agree that it's much better than having Hoppers 3rd XI playing in Nth B and getting embarrassed as what happened the other year.

 

[Over_Throw_for_4]

re: North A and B 10/11

money does not and will not buy success all the time..I cant believe how some clubs can throw 15-18 grand at one player.. Look at this seasons grand finalists.. MV probably spread that amount over 3 players and WC by the sounds of it didnt even come close to spending that sort of cash.. Yeah so good on clubs for working hard and earning it but its HOW YOU SPEND IT that makes the difference in my opinion.
Remember as well as getting a good cricketer you also need to get GOOD BLOKES that wont ruin the fabric of the club and actually add to the atmosphere..
So if a club has 18 to spend on a fast bowler and he takes say 35 wickets and only atays 1 season would you say it has been succesful??
From what ive heard MV had Pridham and Harding that took nearly 60 wickets between them for a grand total cost of under 4g's..both will be back again..

knew some how a M/V player would eventually get his say. All good blokes in my oppinion over the past few years have been bought... congratulations on retaining both them players im sure they will be greater help for you guys... have you guys picked up anymore players for your test in north div? or you sticking to your guns of last season. and also could you please overcome the rumour that phil recalled a little while back, i think he said something about them taking one of your best bats, now Im only guessing your Rajan Aiyappan? now Phil is a tool and im sure your mate Arosha Perera would not be dumb enough to leave. who are your other ins and outs for next season. Good luck with everything.

 

[roosters hack]

re: North A and B 10/11

I have a question to everyone out there.

How much money (average or approximation) is spent on players per season in north A (talking match payments, incentives and coaching)? what about north B?

just curious to find out what clubs fork out and if it is worth it.

Mate...i've got no real problem with you asking the question, but expecting an honest answer on this very public forum will never happen from people in the know...Big Coq is right about one thing the best you'll get here is pure guesswork!!

 

[koh phi phi 3]

re: North A and B 10/11

Nah dont play for the Valleys anymore.... did in the past and know a few blokes down there.. from what the rumour mill has spelt out they have retained all their players and like all clubs at this time are looking at what options are out their. Your right on one thing though, Phil is a tool and their is no-one from there going to WC.. from what I hear could be some movement from WC closer to Melbourne though!!!!

 

[Its crunch time]

re: North A and B 10/11

well put mate. concentrating on other clubs just puts you behind the 8 ball come first game. If you think knowing how much others are paying is going to get you anywhere, think again. keep an eye on your own blokes, spend wat you can to better there game and dont worry about other players and there clubs.

That's a load of crap if you think you can alway's find the answer within your own club . If your a bottom 2 team you aint going to miraculously be a gun side overnight, sometimes you have to look elsewhere to better your side and there's nothing wrong with doing that. In B1 Aber Park and Jacana both had big inclusion's to get them to the Granny ! Albers best player in B1 won the Grand final off his own bat, while Jacana picked up Groves an the two Sri lankans over the last 2 seasons. In A1 Moonee valley did it with a similar side from 08/09 but picked up Pridham and roach for a short stint , Werribee still having Edrich but adding as good an maybe even better player in Clutton ! The evidence speaks for itself ! Nothing wrong with poaching a few players to see St Andrews climb up the ladder and i hope they do ! A few of there blokes were good enough to buy a ticket to our reverse raffle and sink fizz on the night.

 

[Over_Throw_for_4]

re: North A and B 10/11

Nah dont play for the Valleys anymore.... did in the past and know a few blokes down there.. from what the rumour mill has spelt out they have retained all their players and like all clubs at this time are looking at what options are out their. Your right on one thing though, Phil is a tool and their is no-one from there going to WC.. from what I hear could be some movement from WC closer to Melbourne though!!!!

ah k, i will not be suprised if there is a few moves from top players from W/C ones and 2s. keep us updated if you hear anymore. cheers mate.

 

[Over_Throw_for_4]

re: North A and B 10/11

That's a load of crap if you think you can alway's find the answer within your own club . If your a bottom 2 team you aint going to miraculously be a gun side overnight, sometimes you have to look elsewhere to better your side and there's nothing wrong with doing that. In B1 Aber Park and Jacana both had big inclusion's to get them to the Granny ! Albers best player in B1 won the Grand final off his own bat, while Jacana picked up Groves an the two Sri lankans over the last 2 seasons. In A1 Moonee valley did it with a similar side from 08/09 but picked up Pridham and roach for a short stint , Werribee still having Edrich but adding as good an maybe even better player in Clutton ! The evidence speaks for itself ! Nothing wrong with poaching a few players to see St Andrews climb up the ladder and i hope they do ! A few of there blokes were good enough to buy a ticket to our reverse raffle and sink fizz on the night.

Try reading what i said again, to me your reply has no relevance to what i have said. how about i dumb it up a bit for you. Your mate Standrewsman is going on about how much are clubs spending, and how much is this player getting as compared to the next player. all im saying is for him to worry about what there going to spend on players they find and to worry about his own club rather going around and worrying about what joeblow is going to get next season from other clubs. you said "sometimes you have to look elsewhere to better your side and there's nothing wrong with doing that," please explain to me, how knowing what st albans or other clubs are spending on there players is going to help him?

 

[johndoe]

re: North A and B 10/11

money does not and will not buy success all the time..I cant believe how some clubs can throw 15-18 grand at one player.. Look at this seasons grand finalists.. MV probably spread that amount over 3 players and WC by the sounds of it didnt even come close to spending that sort of cash..

think you might find clutts was on 7 plus incentives...
got it from his boss MJ...from all reports wont be back...

 

[BigCoq]

re: North A and B 10/11

I have a question to everyone out there.

How much money (average or approximation) is spent on players per season in north A (talking match payments, incentives and coaching)? what about north B?

just curious to find out what clubs fork out and if it is worth it.

Dude tell Mick O'toole if he comes over to the Roosters he will get $ 4 a run plus bonuses (slab) hows that for an idea

 

[koh phi phi 3]

re: North A and B 10/11

your half right there JD.. Definately wont be back but was getting way under 7g...he is a real decent bloke too. Know for a fact if was disgusted at some of his teammates behaviour in the granny.. Especially his coach. But still gave his all with the ball.. True pro..

 

[roosters hack]

re: North A and B 10/11

Dude tell Mick O'toole if he comes over to the Roosters he will get $ 4 a run plus bonuses (slab) hows that for an idea

Hope you will be funding that offer if it gets up Biggun?

 

[johndoe]

re: North A and B 10/11

heard on the weekend that laverton have been given a berth in north a for next season...

 

[BigCoq]

re: North A and B 10/11

Hope you will be funding that offer if it gets up Biggun?

LOL might have to tap into my Super!

 

[Over_Throw_for_4]

re: North A and B 10/11

heard on the weekend that laverton have been given a berth in north a for next season...

Which means a bye for every side next season due to odd numbers.

 

[StAndrewsman]

re: North A and B 10/11

LOL might have to tap into my Super!

lol, yeah would prolly have to do that. Will be a much fitter Tooley this season so put in 500+ runs. Also gotta watch out for that 'web of deception' bowling. I am sure you would pay $20 a wicket yeah? lol. And with the support cast consisting of Pipczak, Krygger, Heggarty, Hodgart, Rhodes in the batting department (I'm sure I forgot some1 lol) there will be many more runs scored at the sainters next season.

 

[Guru14]

re: North A and B 10/11

heard on the weekend that laverton have been given a berth in north a for next season...

North A, given the result from the promotion process was a 50/50% success with Taylors and Craigieburn i find that a surprise. Finished 3rd last year but finished out of the finals 2 or 3 years before that.

 

[Over_Throw_for_4]

re: North A and B 10/11

lol, yeah would prolly have to do that. Will be a much fitter Tooley this season so put in 500+ runs. Also gotta watch out for that 'web of deception' bowling. I am sure you would pay $20 a wicket yeah? lol. And with the support cast consisting of Pipczak, Krygger, Heggarty, Hodgart, Rhodes in the batting department (I'm sure I forgot some1 lol) there will be many more runs scored at the sainters next season.

Then y are you so worried about what other clubs are spending on there players, people are defending you saying that knowing what others are spending is going to help your club, by the sounds of it you would probably have most teams covered with that line up??

 

[johndoe]

re: North A and B 10/11

North A, given the result from the promotion process was a 50/50% success with Taylors and Craigieburn i find that a surprise. Finished 3rd last year but finished out of the finals 2 or 3 years before that.

thats the mail coming out of laverton....

 

[roosters hack]

re: North A and B 10/11

Then y are you so worried about what other clubs are spending on there players, people are defending you saying that knowing what others are spending is going to help your club, by the sounds of it you would probably have most teams covered with that line up??

he names himself as a member of the supporting cast...purely a fishing trip...trying to find out what he's up against in the coming season. I have no problem with that, any cricketer worth thier salt does some research on it's opposition.

 

[StAndrewsman]

re: North A and B 10/11

thats the mail coming out of laverton....

Thats good to hear. Love for them to step into North A and get slaughtered. Then they can shut their traps over on the willy side and realises that the VTCA North A is much stronger than Willy A turf.

I rekon Lavo will be buying up some players if they wanna be competitve at all.

 

[StAndrewsman]

re: North A and B 10/11

Then y are you so worried about what other clubs are spending on there players, people are defending you saying that knowing what others are spending is going to help your club, by the sounds of it you would probably have most teams covered with that line up??

I have never been at a club before that offers money to players, incentives or other, so I wanted to know what other teams are paying for people as pretty much most teams in VTCA pay players. Also wanted to find out so if a guy comes to the club and asks for money, I can help out with comparing to other people on skill level and money paid. also helps the club if they wanna go out and look to pay for a player or 2. Any info is good info to help the club if it moves in that direction.

I am also just curious to what clubs spend.

Hopefully this line up will cover most teams this season but unfortunately it didnt last season

Does that explain it enough?

 

[ROY G BIV]

re: North A and B 10/11

Which means a bye for every side next season due to odd numbers.

Bye in NTH A would be a surprise.
i reckon if u r mail about Laverton in NTH A is correct then they will make sure
the teams are even at the expense of NTH B.

meaning teams that are being relegated outta or into NTH A this season will be looked at.

As it stands right now Cragieburn + Avondale are to be in NTH B
And Hoppers + Tullamarine into NTH A - I would think someone outta these four would get a reprieve and will not be relegated?

Also, any news on any new Captain/Coach signings, few clubs in NTH are looking?
Last year by now these forums were full of activity about player movements and some very reliable info was dished out - what's the good word on that front?

 

[StAndrewsman]

re: North A and B 10/11

he names himself as a member of the supporting cast...purely a fishing trip...trying to find out what he's up against in the coming season. I have no problem with that, any cricketer worth thier salt does some research on it's opposition.

yeah, I think everyone knows who I am by now. I think I deserve to be a supporting cast member don't you?

 

[CheeQuee]

re: North A and B 10/11

Thats good to hear. Love for them to step into North A and get slaughtered. Then they can shut their traps over on the willy side and realises that the VTCA North A is much stronger than Willy A turf.

I rekon Lavo will be buying up some players if they wanna be competitve at all.

Laverton have got a pretty strong side as it stands. Both First and 2nd XI's did well last season and i think they will surprise many teams and easily hold their own in VTCA whether it be in Nth A or B.

 

[roosters hack]

re: North A and B 10/11

yeah, I think everyone knows who I am by now. I think I deserve to be a supporting cast member don't you?

Yep...not sure on how many runs you got last season, but no worrries there. I reckon we could find a spot for you in our eleven....

 

[Over_Throw_for_4]

re: North A and B 10/11

Bye in NTH A would be a surprise.
i reckon if u r mail about Laverton in NTH A is correct then they will make sure
the teams are even at the expense of NTH B.

meaning teams that are being relegated outta or into NTH A this season will be looked at.

As it stands right now Cragieburn + Avondale are to be in NTH B
And Hoppers + Tullamarine into NTH A - I would think someone outta these four would get a reprieve and will not be relegated?

Also, any news on any new Captain/Coach signings, few clubs in NTH are looking?
Last year by now these forums were full of activity about player movements and some very reliable info was dished out - what's the good word on that front?

Surely you would think all that would be looked at. any news on your part mate?

 

[weapons05/06]

re: North A and B 10/11

lol, yeah would prolly have to do that. Will be a much fitter Tooley this season so put in 500+ runs. Also gotta watch out for that 'web of deception' bowling. I am sure you would pay $20 a wicket yeah? lol. And with the support cast consisting of Pipczak, Krygger, Heggarty, Hodgart, Rhodes in the batting department (I'm sure I forgot some1 lol) there will be many more runs scored at the sainters next season.

hahaha o'tool pipczac rhodes.......hahaha all are elma fuds.....

 

[ROY G BIV]

re: North A and B 10/11

Bye in NTH A would be a surprise.
i reckon if u r mail about Laverton in NTH A is correct then they will make sure
the teams are even at the expense of NTH B.

meaning teams that are being relegated outta or into NTH A this season will be looked at.

As it stands right now Cragieburn + Avondale are to be in NTH B
And Hoppers + Tullamarine into NTH A - I would think someone outta these four would get a reprieve and will not be relegated?

Also, any news on any new Captain/Coach signings, few clubs in NTH are looking?
Last year by now these forums were full of activity about player movements and some very reliable info was dished out - what's the good word on that front?

Surely you would think all that would be looked at. any news on your part mate?

Nah very quiet this year!

Most clubs are holding AGMs around this time of the year so hopefully more news starts filtering through in next 2-4 weeks.

 

[StAndrewsman]

re: North A and B 10/11

hahaha o'tool pipczac rhodes.......hahaha all are elma fuds.....

I don't know if you hav seen these guys before, but comparing to your team, tooley would be your best player, pip will take a middle order spot and will be given a few overs, and rhodesy will keep for you guys. Yes it is a bit bias, but from the conversations I have had with people that played you guys this year, it is pretty close to the truth.

I am sure there are a few others that would fit into your 1s from our team too. Will be interesting when you guys actually play against other teams 1s next season to see where you finish up.

 

[Over_Throw_for_4]

re: North A and B 10/11

Nah very quiet this year!

Most clubs are holding AGMs around this time of the year so hopefully more news starts filtering through in next 2-4 weeks.

rumour has it Phil Crea has been picked up by the Australian Squad hahhaha, ahk 2 -4 weeks, should be good to see the ins and outs for alot of the clubs. cheers mate.

 

[Over_Throw_for_4]

re: North A and B 10/11

I have never been at a club before that offers money to players, incentives or other, so I wanted to know what other teams are paying for people as pretty much most teams in VTCA pay players. Also wanted to find out so if a guy comes to the club and asks for money, I can help out with comparing to other people on skill level and money paid. also helps the club if they wanna go out and look to pay for a player or 2. Any info is good info to help the club if it moves in that direction.

I am also just curious to what clubs spend.

Hopefully this line up will cover most teams this season but unfortunately it didnt last season

Does that explain it enough?

Hit the nail mate, dont know who you are as i have never played or heard of anybody from st andrews, without a doubt i have respect for all cricketers apart from the very few?... if this helps, a descent player could be payed between 8-10k and those outstanding players even more , it all depends on the deal and the contract and wether you set your players certain goals per game, a while back i knew of a player getting a descent amount of cash but was set an average of wickets and runs a game or year not to sure, What club it was and wether clubs still do so is another thing. hope this hels you mate.

 

[BigCoq]

re: North A and B 10/11

Nah very quiet this year!

Most clubs are holding AGMs around this time of the year so hopefully more news starts filtering through in next 2-4 weeks.

Altona Roosters would like too announce we have signed David Roach as our new coach for season 10/11...

I am sure David will bring a more professional and disciplined approach to the club and the committee beleive he is a great fit for our club moving forward.

Looking forward to next season already...

All player welcome to join us next season.
The Hobson bay council have just built us brand new state of the art Pavillion.
Best facilities in the Western Suburbs by far.
Come down get on board!!!!!!