South Africa in England
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England 4/161 now, a lead of 78 runs.
Strauss fell for 25 to Ntini and when Bell edged to Boucher also off Ntini, England were 4/104 with only a small lead. The led has grown since then due to Pietersen and Collingwood forming a useful partnership but they are still in the danger area, 78 runs isn't all that big a lead. KP and Collingwood are going tio have score big here, Pietersen must score a century (he's on 65 at the moment)) and Collingwood (21 not out currently) too must go close to triple figures if England are to have any chance of winning this match.
The start of a big partnership is there they just need to go on with it now. 36 overs to go, England can only afford to drop one wicket at the most until stumps.
England 4/161 now, a lead of 78 runs.
Strauss fell for 25 to Ntini and when Bell edged to Boucher also off Ntini, England were 4/104 with only a small lead. The led has grown since then due to Pietersen and Collingwood forming a useful partnership but they are still in the danger area, 78 runs isn't all that big a lead. KP and Collingwood are going tio have score big here, Pietersen must score a century (he's on 65 at the moment)) and Collingwood (21 not out currently) too must go close to triple figures if England are to have any chance of winning this match.
The start of a big partnership is there they just need to go on with it now. 36 overs to go, England can only afford to drop one wicket at the most until stumps.
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eddiesmith
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Does anyone know a site that has partnership stats, i.e the average runs scored when 2 batsmen come together
Does anyone know a site that has partnership stats, i.e the average runs scored when 2 batsmen come together
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Selfish shot from Pietersen. Charges down the pitch and tries to dispatch Harris for six to bring up his 100 but he picks out de Villiers at long-on, poor cricket.
5/219, a lead of 136. Collingwood's up to 50 and now Flintoff joins him in the middle. These two will have to do the bulk of the work as the tail aren't known for their longevity at the crease, not after the first innings effort anyway.
That's a tough one. You might have to try a site that specialises in cricket stats, I doubt any of the major cricketing sites (cricinfo, cricbuzz) would delve that deep.
Selfish shot from Pietersen. Charges down the pitch and tries to dispatch Harris for six to bring up his 100 but he picks out de Villiers at long-on, poor cricket.
5/219, a lead of 136. Collingwood's up to 50 and now Flintoff joins him in the middle. These two will have to do the bulk of the work as the tail aren't known for their longevity at the crease, not after the first innings effort anyway.
eddiesmith;229764 said:
That's a tough one. You might have to try a site that specialises in cricket stats, I doubt any of the major cricketing sites (cricinfo, cricbuzz) would delve that deep.
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eddiesmith
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I know, cricket stats can be difficult to find at times, but I hope they are out there somewhere, you always hear the stats for openers at least on the TV comms
Its just to me it seems like Colly and KP quite often do very well together, be interesting to see if their is a stat to prove/disprove it
Ljp86;229765 said:
I know, cricket stats can be difficult to find at times, but I hope they are out there somewhere, you always hear the stats for openers at least on the TV comms
Its just to me it seems like Colly and KP quite often do very well together, be interesting to see if their is a stat to prove/disprove it
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I've found it, on cricinfo actually. That statsguru is very, very helpful. @|
Okay, KP and Collingwood have batted together 28 times in total, once was an undefeated partnership of 46 runs (so we'll use the method of calculating batting averages to determine their average [i.e number of runs will be divided by 27]). When at the crease, they've combined for 1819 runs at an average 67.37.
So, they're pretty effective when they come together, that figure would be one of the highest going around in international cricket currently. Very handy to have.
Summary
Games: 28
Runs: 1819
Average: 67.37
100's: 6
50's: 9
0's: 2
Highest: 310 vs Australia at Adelaide Oval (2nd test, 06/07) Link
eddiesmith;229767 said:
I've found it, on cricinfo actually. That statsguru is very, very helpful. @|
Okay, KP and Collingwood have batted together 28 times in total, once was an undefeated partnership of 46 runs (so we'll use the method of calculating batting averages to determine their average [i.e number of runs will be divided by 27]). When at the crease, they've combined for 1819 runs at an average 67.37.
So, they're pretty effective when they come together, that figure would be one of the highest going around in international cricket currently. Very handy to have.
Summary
Games: 28
Runs: 1819
Average: 67.37
100's: 6
50's: 9
0's: 2
Highest: 310 vs Australia at Adelaide Oval (2nd test, 06/07) Link
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eddiesmith
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I think its something to do with KPs attack and Collys slower batting but ability to turn over the strike and hit out occassionally that makes them a perfect combo
Plus they also seem to be like best mates everytime they are together
Brilliant, thanks @|Ljp86;229768 said:
I think its something to do with KPs attack and Collys slower batting but ability to turn over the strike and hit out occassionally that makes them a perfect combo
Plus they also seem to be like best mates everytime they are together
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eddiesmith
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Who said Test cricket is dead?
Intense stuff here with the Saffers struggling to see the ball, if they were from the subcontinent they would probably walk off and have the match declared a draw
Who said Test cricket is dead?
Intense stuff here with the Saffers struggling to see the ball, if they were from the subcontinent they would probably walk off and have the match declared a draw
Bringbackwarney
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poms r home cracking test match, t20 dnt compare to this
poms r home cracking test match, t20 dnt compare to this
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Spot on there, it's the combination, an attacker and an anchor player seem to do well when they're together. The Pietersen/Collingwood partnership works beautifully as KP fits one role and Collingwood takes the other. That combo forces the bowling attack to think about where they want to pitch the ball to either player. On occasions they'll get it wrong and either batter will capitalise.
A crucial knock for Collingwood though, his highest score for the series was 20-odd, so that hundred was crucial and it keeps the guys on the fringe at bay.
eddiesmith;229769 said:
Spot on there, it's the combination, an attacker and an anchor player seem to do well when they're together. The Pietersen/Collingwood partnership works beautifully as KP fits one role and Collingwood takes the other. That combo forces the bowling attack to think about where they want to pitch the ball to either player. On occasions they'll get it wrong and either batter will capitalise.
A crucial knock for Collingwood though, his highest score for the series was 20-odd, so that hundred was crucial and it keeps the guys on the fringe at bay.
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South Africa are 4/145 now, no wickets lost for a while, de Villiers and Smith have combined well, 52 runs from 13.4 overs. Smith is up to 80 and holds the key, he needs to be there for the rest of the day if the Proteas want to win. South Africa still need 136 to win the game so Smith must go on with it here as they are still a fair way from being close the winning the match.
If England can get Smith, you'd think the game would be in their favour. I'd say it is 50/50 at this point. Pretty tense stuff though, this is the type of match test cricket has been crying out for, it's a shame there aren't more of them.
South Africa are 4/145 now, no wickets lost for a while, de Villiers and Smith have combined well, 52 runs from 13.4 overs. Smith is up to 80 and holds the key, he needs to be there for the rest of the day if the Proteas want to win. South Africa still need 136 to win the game so Smith must go on with it here as they are still a fair way from being close the winning the match.
If England can get Smith, you'd think the game would be in their favour. I'd say it is 50/50 at this point. Pretty tense stuff though, this is the type of match test cricket has been crying out for, it's a shame there aren't more of them.
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eddiesmith
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I would say its advantage South Africa at this stage with just 114 runs needed
I would say its advantage South Africa at this stage with just 114 runs needed
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eddiesmith
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Still advantage South Africa especially with these 2 at the creaseLjp86;229867 said:Well, what do you have to say now?
Monty strikes, de Villiers comes forward but edges to Collingwood at first slip.
5/171 with 110 still needed. Smith on 96.
SouthSwans
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Gee thats frustrating, I had money on England winning that...
Smith and Boucher stayed together at the crease, Smith making a stunning unbeaten 154, Boucher made 45, and the Saffers will bring home a series win, a great little segue into the series against the Aussies in December.
Gee thats frustrating, I had money on England winning that...
Smith and Boucher stayed together at the crease, Smith making a stunning unbeaten 154, Boucher made 45, and the Saffers will bring home a series win, a great little segue into the series against the Aussies in December.