West Indies in Australia

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a for effort;380952 said:
Eddie do you ever have your tongue in your cheek when you talk up every Victorian player as though they are the second coming of Christ?
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Sometimes :D

But someone needs to talk them up with everyone else claiming we never produce good players even though their state superstars get creamed when they go up against the might of the Vics

As for McKay, there is no doubt he was atleast the 2nd best bowler, sure he went for a couple of boundaries, everyone did, but he shat all over Johnson and should have taken the new ball

When will Ricky learn that Johnson is not opening bowler?
 
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eddiesmith;380958 said:
As for McKay, there is no doubt he was at least the 2nd best bowler, sure he went for a couple of boundaries, everyone did, but he shat all over Johnson and should have taken the new ball

When will Ricky learn that Johnson is not opening bowler?
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Yep that's right. But remember when Gayle is going bowlers become redundant.

Johnson is a first change bowler. But don't talk him down. He has been getting consistent 3 wicket hauls every innings and in my opinion has been the best Australian bowler.
 
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Johnson bowls scrambled-seam pies with the new ball because he can't control the swing. Much more suited to first change.
 
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You have to remember not to worry about the runs Johnson is going for. He isn't meant to be an economical bowler. He is the strike bowler. If the other bowlers can't keep it tight enough then he isn't effective.
 
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You have to remember the Johnson is extremely overrated, bowls at least one 'four ball' an over and isn't nearly dangerous enough to get away with it under the guise of being the 'strike bowler'.
 
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And yet he consistently is getting at least 3 wickets an innings and is being the best bowler Australia has...

The idea with a strike bowler is that they don't have a care for runs so if they get hit for four an over it doesn't matter. He sprays it because that's what gets him wickets.
 
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*LtD logs onto bigfooty, clicks on cricket board*

*browses match thread*

*reads numerous posters bagging Johnson as 'over-rated', 'pie-thrower', 'wuss', 'soft'. Yep, looks like Australia had an average day with the ball and the kids can't handle it.

Johnson is our strike bowler, in form he is arguably the most destructive bowler in the world.

At the moment he is struggling with his control, but once he gets that right, and he will, then he will pick up a bag of wickets.

The problem at the moment is his economy rate, to me I have always viewed the economy rate as a good indicator of how a bowler is going.

For example, Johnson's best series so far in his career have been the 3 series back to back against NZ, SA (home) and SA (away). With the ball he averaged 11, 25, 25 respectively in those 3 series.

Johnson's respective economy rate in those three series was 2.3, 2.8, 2.9.

In the Ashes his economy rate was 4.1, so far against the Windies it has been 4.4.

If your attack is going at 4 an over then your not going to win many test matchs, it is one of the lasting memories from the 2005 Ashes. At the time England were rolling along at 4 an over.

Our bowlers need to tighten up in that record, Ponting - or any captain - is hamstrung once his attack starts leaking runs.

Tomorrow I want to see our attack come out and keep the WI's at 3 or less an over, do that and the wickets will come.

There is a significant correlation between run rate and wickets taken.
 
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a for effort;380952 said:
Eddie do you ever have your tongue in your cheek when you talk up every Victorian player as though they are the second coming of Christ?
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Christ was just the warm up act for Warne.:D
 
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West Indies are 6/306 now. Sarwan was out to Bollinger on the second ball of the day and the wickets have fallen at regular intervals since then. Bollinger has three in total, Johnson has two with Hauritz the other. Nash was out for 44 about 10 minutes ago, Sarwan scored 42.

15 required to avoid the follow-on.
 
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Another one down. Tossed up wide of off-stump by Hauritz, Sulieman Benn tries to drag this one once more but he gets a faint edge and Haddin takes the catch.

7/310, Ramdin on 8. New batsman is Rampaul.
 
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And again!! Great ball from Hauritz, pitches on a good length and gets some extra bounce, Rampaul plays at it but the ball can only catch the edge and Haddin has another catch.

8/310, new ball due after this over too. Surely West Indies will avoid the follow on? They've lost 6/96 today, having gone from a even position in the game to one where they are in danger of following on.
 
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Bollinger!!!!! Dear oh dear, West Indies are having another calypso collapso, Ramdin moves across to play the ball and completely misses and leg stump is rattled!!

9/310, Tonge is the last man in. Last five balls West Indies have lost 3/0. :eek:
 
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Bloody hell. This is ridiculous.

Will Ponting enforce the follow-on anyway? With two days to play he may want to give the bowlers some rest.
 
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Damn those West Indians for making that bowling line-up look half good.

Someone has to make a bowler angry that isn't a spin bowler and hopefully there will be some fireworks with the West Indian's having nothing to lose. Make something of the last two days at least.
 
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Finally, Clarke steps up to bat at first drop.

Hardly what you'd call a pressure situation, but I guess it's a start.
 
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Doesn't he normally bypass Hussey if Ponting can't bat?

Not that it happens on the most regular of occasions.
 
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Clarke has never batted number 3 in Tests.

Watson needs to get his shit together regarding LBWs. If he doesn't then he's going to get done next time we play a team with a decent bowling attack.
 
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Caesar;381117 said:
Clarke has never batted number 3 in Tests.

Watson needs to get his shit together regarding LBWs. If he doesn't then he's going to get done next time we play a team with a decent bowling attack.
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Must have been thinking of ODIs in regards to Clarke then.

Watson will prove himself one way or the other in the next two series as to whether he should be opening.
 
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Clarke and Hussey both out to lazy mistakes. Truly this is pathetic. Even the run rate is awful; hopefully exchanging Haddin for Hussey will fix that.

No idea why Ponting didn't enforce the follow-on. It's not like the WACA road is going to fall apart over the next couple of days, and god knows the Australian bowlers need as much time as possible to get the Windies out.
 
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