Wrist Spin Bowling (part Five)
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Leggy88
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Damn, you got fulltrack AI? Is it worth it you reckon? I'm thinking of getting it too.
Leggy88
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Nice bit of turn on those leggies, and certainly a bit of drift and dip with the offies.
Yeah I just got a monthly subscription for like $24 to see how it is.
From that net session I can tell you need a tripod, trying to balance it on the end of my cricket bag was pain and it didn’t record a lot of balls because the wind blew it over.
There was a couple deliveries that it blatantly tracked wrong (*I’ll put the tracking under this). But other than that it seems pretty accurate. It was a little finicky to set up properly.
*This was a half volley leg break that turned a mile but apparently it didn’t turn much at all.
But yeah it seems pretty good for knowing *roughly* how fast you bowl, how much drift and spin you get etc. The pitch map is pretty good too.
I’d recommend getting it for like a month at a time, it seems like having it for the whole year is a waste of money and you’re better off getting a subscription every few months as a sort of check up.
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Leggy88
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lol I found a video of my bowling from when I started playing cricket and it hurts just watching it.
I can’t post videos on my phone so I’ll just put an image of the release position that tells you all you need to know lol.
Damn yeah, lucky you got around to fixing those problems haha.
Ok so I’ve played around a bit more with FullTrack and it is pretty good.
You can filter deliveries by the way they swing/drift and spin. Also by line and/or length. Think it’s pretty handy for seeing what goes wrong with the loose deliveries.
It also has the pitch map and a beehive (where the balls have passed/hit the stumps) which is also good. You can also see where a specific ball you are looking at is on these.
It does also show the areas for a good, full or etc.
You can filter deliveries by the way they swing/drift and spin. Also by line and/or length. Think it’s pretty handy for seeing what goes wrong with the loose deliveries.
It also has the pitch map and a beehive (where the balls have passed/hit the stumps) which is also good. You can also see where a specific ball you are looking at is on these.
It does also show the areas for a good, full or etc.
Leggy88
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Wow, that is super handy. It's definitely something I will consider getting in the next couple months before the season starts again.
SomeblokecalledDave.
Some Bloke Called Dave
No wrong-un for me Flippers, but one that does break to off, but very little and it's not a ball I bowl a lot.
SomeblokecalledDave.
Some Bloke Called Dave
How weird is that. At my club - 5 teams at the weekend, so there must be 70 + active players. I'm the only Leggie, there's another in the 2nd XI but he bottles it and hardly ever bowls it and bats now. Oh a new bloke who started playing this week and we'll have to see how he goes once he's been hit for some 4's and 6's. Other than that the 5ths which I play in most - there are 3 finger spinners. The 4th XI has 3 again. The 2nd XI has definitely 2, possibly more and the captain of the 2's took the most wickets last season - finger spin and in the first XI there's - again at least 3 possibly 4. Then if you start looking at all the old boys that only play every now and then there's a couple of good uns. The UK is running alive with em!
SomeblokecalledDave.
Some Bloke Called Dave
Where you you put the phone when you use this?
Darth Spin
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I'm the only leggie at my club although there is a guy who mixes off spin and leg breaks. He's very good at it, doesn't turn them much but enough and is pretty quick through the air with excellent line and length. He gets a lot of wickets and doesn't go for many runs. There is also a left arm off spinner. We have some good spinners.
Some of the opposition have leggies, I prefer it when the oppo doesn't have one in their team although I do enjoy watching other leggies. One thing I seldom see is them bowling variations, though. I've never seen anyone else bowl a flipper and nobody has ever picked mine or asked what it was.
Darth Spin
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Great videos, doc.
You’re supposed to use a tripod behind the non strikers stumps as high as possible but I just stood my bag up and used my bat as a stabiliser.
Wouldn’t recommend using the bag personally.
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Leggy88
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Yeah, that's part of the reason why I now believe there is no use trying to hide the flipper when batsmen don't even know what it is.
45% of his outs are from missing a ball that’s in line with the stumps (bowled+lbw). You did say he’s strong through the off side so that makes sense.
Sounds like he might be weak to a well executed flipper on middle/leg?
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Darth Spin
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I had another 40 over league match today for the 2nd team away to the top team in the division (their 1st XI). I bowled 9 overs 0 maidens (standard haha) 51 runs 3 wickets. They got 196/4 from their forty overs. We were fielding first and the top order bowlers bowled fairly economically. One wicket fell and then I was up. I got their number 3 out LBW, then the next ball appealed strongly for another LBW which I think pitched in line and was hitting leg but the finger did not go up. I think he thought it was out, but he didn't want to give two LBWs against his team mates in two balls.
Next over I was bowling to their opener, he was on 48 and chose a bad tactic of charging me every ball. I think he was watching me from the non strikers end and had decided I was too slow, so he went at me every ball. The first few he got singles from but then I bowled one a touch flatter and shorter and it comfortably beat him, he was stumped miles out of his crease.
Then I had a ropey over when my bowling arm wasn't coming over well, the timing was not there. I think this is related to my front foot, it's something I've noticed in the nets and I think the cause is delivering the ball too early before my front foot has landed properly. I sorted this out and improved and then bowled another right hander.
After that I met my match, a big guy batting at 6 came on and my last two overs went for 21 runs.
I'm still really happy overall, though, it was nice to get wickets against the team who are likely to win the division and get some top order batsmen out, a real confidence builder despite being whacked at the end.
I'm afraid that in reply we were bowled out for 16! I faced two balls and finished 0 not out.
My figures for the season:-
Overs 20.1
Maidens 0
Runs 93
Wickets 8
Next over I was bowling to their opener, he was on 48 and chose a bad tactic of charging me every ball. I think he was watching me from the non strikers end and had decided I was too slow, so he went at me every ball. The first few he got singles from but then I bowled one a touch flatter and shorter and it comfortably beat him, he was stumped miles out of his crease.
Then I had a ropey over when my bowling arm wasn't coming over well, the timing was not there. I think this is related to my front foot, it's something I've noticed in the nets and I think the cause is delivering the ball too early before my front foot has landed properly. I sorted this out and improved and then bowled another right hander.
After that I met my match, a big guy batting at 6 came on and my last two overs went for 21 runs.
I'm still really happy overall, though, it was nice to get wickets against the team who are likely to win the division and get some top order batsmen out, a real confidence builder despite being whacked at the end.
I'm afraid that in reply we were bowled out for 16! I faced two balls and finished 0 not out.
My figures for the season:-
Overs 20.1
Maidens 0
Runs 93
Wickets 8
Leggy88
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Sounds like a good game for you even if you didn't get the win. Always good to get a few wickets against a really good side.
Darth Spin
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Yeah, I'm really happy. I wanted some league wickets under my belt as the second team struggles to take wickets sometimes. I will probably get plenty of overs in the 2nds, and am also putting my name in for the Sunday friendlies which tend to be a fairly high standard from my point of view.
One other thing in the match today, one of the batsmen hit it towards me, the non-striker had left his crease. I tried a Bergkamp style flick on the half volley with the outside of my boot towards the stumps, it missed by half an inch with the guy out of his crease. So close but so far.
SomeblokecalledDave.
Some Bloke Called Dave
I'm on 20-5-40-3 economy of 2 - strike rate of 40. Bowling well, just not getting wickets - had 2 dropped in the last game. Full account here if you want to have a look. https://theoldwristspinner.blogspot.com/2023/05/loughton-south-cc-v-basildon-pitsea-5th.html