Wrist Spin Bowling (part Five)

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doc8176 said:
Keep working and improving and you’ll get there.

My season so far:

0/39(6)
0/51(9)
0/23(2)
1/0(0.1)
0/29(2) (bully playing way lower than he should be)
3/7(2.4)
0/1(1) (bowled them out for 49 after my 1 over)

In my first 3 games I conceded 113 runs for no wicket. In my last 4 (including the one where I got carted for 29 off my 2 wicket less overs, I’ve averaged 9.25.

You’ll get your wickets, i feel like it’s kinda the life of a spinner, you can bowl your heart out and get no reward and then you’ll just start suddenly taking wickets lol.

I’m at work so I’ll watch your stream during lunch.
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Thanks man, makes me feel a lot better. Hopefully my wicket taking spree is right around the corner.
 
Here’s Rashid..
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front toe to fine leg, head slightly more upright? Maybe that’s what I can implement for improved accuracy and revs?
 
Leggy88 said:
Here’s Rashid..
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front toe to fine leg, head slightly more upright? Maybe that’s what I can implement for improved accuracy and revs?
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You’re falling over a bit.

You might find if you fix your front foot it strengthens your general action a bit more.

I’ve had problems with falling over and I’ve found if you really focus on keeping your shoulders level it really helps.
 
doc8176 said:
You’re falling over a bit.

You might find if you fix your front foot it strengthens your general action a bit more.

I’ve had problems with falling over and I’ve found if you really focus on keeping your shoulders level it really helps.
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Sort out the front foot though.
 
Leggy88 said:
Here’s Rashid..
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front toe to fine leg, head slightly more upright? Maybe that’s what I can implement for improved accuracy and revs?
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Honestly, having gone through these micro analysis of my own action and comparing with others, looking back all I seemed to be doing was going around in circles and getting nowhere. It wasn't until I stopped thinking about what I was doing and just got on with it that things came together. But, maybe it's a rights of passage thing? Maybe we all have to try this approach in order to eventually find our way, some it might take a few seasons, others like me nearly 15 years? I watched your overs and I don't know if I've said it before, but if there was one thing I'd work on with regards your bowling it would be the Tich Freeman skip, I'd try and get rid of it. I used to do it, I think I resolved it in a matter of a few weeks. As I recall it made quite a difference.
 
doc8176 said:
You’re falling over a bit.

You might find if you fix your front foot it strengthens your general action a bit more.

I’ve had problems with falling over and I’ve found if you really focus on keeping your shoulders level it really helps.
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Yeah cheers, hoping the front foot is the cause of the problems.
 
SomeblokecalledDave. said:
Honestly, having gone through these micro analysis of my own action and comparing with others, looking back all I seemed to be doing was going around in circles and getting nowhere. It wasn't until I stopped thinking about what I was doing and just got on with it that things came together. But, maybe it's a rights of passage thing? Maybe we all have to try this approach in order to eventually find our way, some it might take a few seasons, others like me nearly 15 years? I watched your overs and I don't know if I've said it before, but if there was one thing I'd work on with regards your bowling it would be the Tich Freeman skip, I'd try and get rid of it. I used to do it, I think I resolved it in a matter of a few weeks. As I recall it made quite a difference.
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I don’t quite get grasp how I am skipping? Like which part of it is the problem? The bound into the delivery stride?
 
Leggy88 said:
I don’t quite get grasp how I am skipping? Like which part of it is the problem? The bound into the delivery stride?
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You almost hop off of both feet before you bowl

Instead of jumping off your left foot to enter your bowling action it looks like almost jump off both feet.

You don’t actually do that but I think it’d help if you lifted your right leg more during it.
 
doc8176 said:
You almost hop off of both feet before you bowl

Instead of jumping off your left foot to enter your bowling action it looks like almost jump off both feet.

You don’t actually do that but I think it’d help if you lifted your right leg more during it.
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Ahh ok, that makes sense. Cheers. Will get a cone or something and do some drills to try and rectify it.
 
Leggy88 said:
Ahh ok, that makes sense. Cheers. Will get a cone or something and do some drills to try and rectify it.
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A good way to think of it is, for the last 3 steps of your action, your legs and arms should go up and down with each other.

Right leg goes up as you load your right arm up.

Left arm goes up as you lift your left arm.

As your right leg goes down your right arm also goes down to start its “arc”

Left arm goes down as you land your front foot and levers your arm through.

Sync these up and it should help a lot.

Also just exaggerate lifting your legs for a bit, “technically” you should lift your knees up waist high but you don’t really have to do it that much.

But at the moment your foot barely leaves the floor.
 
doc8176 said:
A good way to think of it is, for the last 3 steps of your action, your legs and arms should go up and down with each other.

Right leg goes up as you load your right arm up.

Left arm goes up as you lift your left arm.

As your right leg goes down your right arm also goes down to start its “arc”

Left arm goes down as you land your front foot and levers your arm through.

Sync these up and it should help a lot.

Also just exaggerate lifting your legs for a bit, “technically” you should lift your knees up waist high but you don’t really have to do it that much.

But at the moment your foot barely leaves the floor.
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Appreciate it heaps man, that really clarifies things for me. Shouldn’t take to long to ingrain the muscle memory since it’s the holidays with nothing to do lol
 
Leggy88 said:
Appreciate it heaps man, that really clarifies things for me. Shouldn’t take to long to ingrain the muscle memory since it’s the holidays with nothing to do lol
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Yeah it's quite easy to rectify, just practice it in a really exaggerated way initially. My 7 year old son helped me with it - it was him saying about it that made me decide to do something about it.
 
SomeblokecalledDave. said:
Yeah it's quite easy to rectify, just practice it in a really exaggerated way initially. My 7 year old son helped me with it - it was him saying about it that made me decide to do something about it.
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Yeah funnily enough that is the biggest, most obvious and easiest thing that helped me improve from the couple of private bowling coaching sessions I’ve had.

It makes sense too, we don’t naturally do it when we walk, because we alternate our arms and legs. But it’s pretty easy to be do once you realise that’s what you’re supposed to do when you bowl.
 
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I’ve managed to play a couple of games on turf recently, I am yet to take a wicket this year on turf and/or in B grade. I have probably 8 dropped catches off my bowling, that includes boundary fielders not bothering to run in to catch the ball and just waiting for it to bounce. I’m not overly flustered by dropped catches (although the frequency in B grade is actually comedic now), but people not even attempting to catch it pisses me off.

I’ve also been getting less turn on the turf wickets, even the ones that our other spinner was getting quite a bit on. I don’t know if this is just lack of practice on turf or if I’ve somehow managed to develop a way of bowling that exploits the “physics” of synthetic wickets and how they grip.

I have a night T20 tomorrow on turf again, along with my game on Saturday so we’ll see how it goes.
 
doc8176 said:
I’ve managed to play a couple of games on turf recently, I am yet to take a wicket this year on turf and/or in B grade. I have probably 8 dropped catches off my bowling, that includes boundary fielders not bothering to run in to catch the ball and just waiting for it to bounce. I’m not overly flustered by dropped catches (although the frequency in B grade is actually comedic now), but people not even attempting to catch it pisses me off.

I’ve also been getting less turn on the turf wickets, even the ones that our other spinner was getting quite a bit on. I don’t know if this is just lack of practice on turf or if I’ve somehow managed to develop a way of bowling that exploits the “physics” of synthetic wickets and how they grip.

I have a night T20 tomorrow on turf again, along with my game on Saturday so we’ll see how it goes.
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Do you bowl with more sidespin or overspin? I find overspin gives more turn on turf.
 
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