Wrist Spin Bowling (part Five)

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funk192 said:
I want to go see him bowl as I live in Sydney, never ever been to a cricket game since I don't like sitting out in the sun all day doing nothing, but seeing Macgill bowl is an exception. Does anyone know if he will be playing for sydney uni in anything other than T20 matches? I've tried looking here bu doesn't give me much info. http://www.sydneygrade.nsw.cricket.com.au/common/pages/public/rv/draw.aspx?id=RVFIXTURE&entityid=4
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Yeah that shows he went pretty good yesterday in t20. Given he has very little feeling in his fingers, and his knee must still play up a bit.

Just keep an eye on that draw and click on the selected teams icon later in the week and it should show if he is going to play in that 2 dayer against mosman at ab oval. Plus it will be in the papers and there will be a bit of media interest in it as well.
 
Young bloke had never bowled on yesterdays pitch before but he loves it he reckons and it spun more than any others so far this season. Its only concrete but it is coated with some sort of paving paint. It seems smooth but it has a bit of grit in the paint mix for safety and these ones do spin a lot for legspinners if you try hard enough.

His second ball was a wrongun that spun and bounced into the batsmans stomach. I suppose that was because we worked on his wrongun last week. He hasn't used it all season and it might explain his strike rate blowing out a bit. He has these guys set up but needs to deliver the coup de grace more often.

I dont think he is bowling his topspinner enough either. He is just trying to spin big legbreaks at them. It is only the good players that can hit him the rest its a swing and a miss. His 3 scalps are still in the top 7 batting averages.
 
macca said:
Just keep an eye on that draw and click on the selected teams icon later in the week and it should show if he is going to play in that 2 dayer against mosman at ab oval. Plus it will be in the papers and there will be a bit of media interest in it as well.
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Thanks macca, I also just found out that Sydney Uni just started streaming their games online now, and it has next weeks game listed on this link, so hopefully Macgill is playing. :D http://www.livestream.com/livefromthegrandstand?t=568350

edit: http://www.livestream.com/livefromt...56dd&utm_source=lslibrary&utm_medium=ui-thumb

Just started watching this stream, has some leggie bowling at the start. He has no pivot in his action, so basically a roller of the ball as Richie Benaud says :/
 
macca said:
You heard it here first, he is toying with the idea of making a bbl comeback like warne and hoggie. He is about to announce something on radio in a few minutes.

So he is going to come back and bowl for sydney uni in place of beau casson, who is ill, then put himself up for the sydney6.s and take on warne and hoggie at 40 year old legspin comebacks.
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I read on either Cricinfo or The Grauniad that he's only playing the one game against Warnie's team. Here we go just located the article:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/big-bash-league-2011/content/story/540462.html
 
Just finished watching the Sri Lanka v Pakistan game highlights. A superb game with some really good bowling from the spinners especially Afridi. 'You just can't keep him out of the game'.
 
funk192 said:
Thanks macca, I also just found out that Sydney Uni just started streaming their games online now, and it has next weeks game listed on this link, so hopefully Macgill is playing. :D http://www.livestream.com/livefromthegrandstand?t=568350

edit: http://www.livestream.com/livefromt...56dd&utm_source=lslibrary&utm_medium=ui-thumb

Just started watching this stream, has some leggie bowling at the start. He has no pivot in his action, so basically a roller of the ball as Richie Benaud says :/
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Cheers for this link - so what level is this cricket and is the this the comp that McGill and Hoggie are playing in?
 
someblokecalleddave said:
Just finished watching the Sri Lanka v Pakistan game highlights. A superb game with some really good bowling from the spinners especially Afridi. 'You just can't keep him out of the game'.
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Yeah I'm watching that game now, other Mendis has a pretty useful wrong un but they made him look better than he is. Afridi is just ridiculous, must be a nightmare facing those rapid, skiddy wrong un's.
 
macca said:
Yeah that shows he went pretty good yesterday in t20. Given he has very little feeling in his fingers, and his knee must still play up a bit.

Just keep an eye on that draw and click on the selected teams icon later in the week and it should show if he is going to play in that 2 dayer against mosman at ab oval. Plus it will be in the papers and there will be a bit of media interest in it as well.
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Found this by changing the search to first grade Twenty20 Cup. So S. Macgill might be playing this Sunday 27th Nov. http://www.sydneygrade.nsw.cricket....loc=/cricket/reports/match.asp&loc1/match.asp
 
Im still having trouble posting. The only way is to write a short one and then go back and edit it so if you see some unfinished posts youll know why
A quick update on my season so far. Started out with 4/21 but the last two games have been less impressive. 0/16 off 2 overs and 0/20 off 4 overs. The last game was on awet pitch after
 
chippyben said:
Im still having trouble posting. The only way is to write a short one and then go back and edit it so if you see some unfinished posts youll know why
A quick update on my season so far. Started out with 4/21 but the last two games have been less impressive. 0/16 off 2 overs and 0/20 off 4 overs. The last game was on awet pitch after
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Well you probably wont be playing this weekend if the weather in batlow is anything like here. Bit of a bummer that because it disadvantages my sons team standing in the comp because they miss an easy game and their rivals dodge a hard game.
 
Bit of a double up here as I've posted this elsewhere, but it's potentially quite useful. I've found some accessible stuff on the mysterious Menno Gazendum - http://spinbowlingproject.com/about-me/ via this link check his Facebook page out. I've always seen him as a dark shadowy figure amongst the wrist spin fraternity, but this new find has changed my mind about him - especially his Facebook page.
 
macca said:
Young bloke started well in first game 5 overs 1/7. Took his first wicket with his first ball of his 3rd over. That was first over after drinks. That was his first maiden as well. Team lost though and this year they dont wont to lose too many games because they are playing for promotion to 1st div and turf wickets, more umpires.
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That performance looks even better now. The batsman he got out is leading the batting aggregate ( our no3 leads on averages) and that team is undefeated.

Rematch next week. I remember the dismissal. This guy had blasted his way to almost 50 and had no trouble with our pace attack who were very rusty and still in rugby mode mostly.

James came on and tied him up with dot balls and had him caught trying to drive a big legbreak. Maybe he got lucky and this week the bat might win. One thing i know is a few of them will be on the lookout for the legspinner they hadn't seen before.
 
macca said:
That performance looks even better now. The batsman he got out is leading the batting aggregate ( our no3 leads on averages) and that team is undefeated.

Rematch next week. I remember the dismissal. This guy had blasted his way to almost 50 and had no trouble with our pace attack who were very rusty and still in rugby mode mostly.

James came on and tied him up with dot balls and had him caught trying to drive a big legbreak. Maybe he got lucky and this week the bat might win. One thing i know is a few of them will be on the lookout for the legspinner they hadn't seen before.
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Good work there, but it looks like the only batsmen he's hunting down are the good ones.

Last season, there was a similar problem with our lead offspinner. He kept beating most of the batsmen, but he was so good that none would get out. You had to be good enough, to actually get out. The mediocre batsmen would simply try to block each ball and so he'd end up not getting any wickets. (At that time I used to get more wickets in spite of bowling absolute rubbish(

Then I(being the captain) asked him to tone down the bowling a notch. i.e if bad batsmen are batting, bowl slightly slower, make the batsman feel a little more comfortable about trying to play a shot and then hook him in. It worked a treat and he became the joint highest wicket taker in our league.

Of course, pulling it off would mean that your lad has mastered the art of bowling "spells" in addition to mastery of bowling that he seems to be displaying right now. Something that you can work on somewhere down the line, when, is a call you'd have to make depending on bowler's maturity and confidence.
 
shrek said:
Good work there, but it looks like the only batsmen he's hunting down are the good ones.

Last season, there was a similar problem with our lead offspinner. He kept beating most of the batsmen, but he was so good that none would get out. You had to be good enough, to actually get out. The mediocre batsmen would simply try to block each ball and so he'd end up not getting any wickets. (At that time I used to get more wickets in spite of bowling absolute rubbish(

Then I(being the captain) asked him to tone down the bowling a notch. i.e if bad batsmen are batting, bowl slightly slower, make the batsman feel a little more comfortable about trying to play a shot and then hook him in. It worked a treat and he became the joint highest wicket taker in our league.

Of course, pulling it off would mean that your lad has mastered the art of bowling "spells" in addition to mastery of bowling that he seems to be displaying right now. Something that you can work on somewhere down the line, when, is a call you'd have to make depending on bowler's maturity and confidence.
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Yeah it's not a bad problem to have, but it does throw his strike rate out a bit. He has the equal most overs and maidens bowled and the 2nd best economy rate but his strike rate is one of the worst in comp of the top bowlers. But he has 3 scalps from the top 7 batsmen in the comp.

Your solution from last season has me thinking. Something along those lines he needs to bowl to tailenders a bit different.
 
Jimmy bowled his first decent flipper on sunday. He mucks around with one on the last ball of most training sessions lately and usually it is not very good. Double bouncers often. But this time i told him to try and give it some serious arm action so he might go the full 22 yards.

I was batting, he told me he would try a flipper so i was ready and i can pick his flipper usually anyway. But i still only just kept it from getting me lbw. It shot through kept low and would be lowest bounce he has got except on turf occasionally. What was good was i could see the backspin and it was revolving nicely.

Dont mean that much at the moment. He came out on tuesday and bowled a flipper last ball again and it didn't even land on the wicket. So it is a long process.

3 years ago i found this thread. And thats how long jimmys been working on his flipper. He picked it up from watching someblokecalledave's youtube clip where he backspins a ball to himself on the pavement. Once he saw that he had to learn how to do it, so thanks again dave.
 
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