Wrist Spin Bowling (part Five)

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There are things but it would just be nit-picking and not helpful without knowing if there is anything that is actually wrong.

What do you think is not working?
 
Looks pretty good to me also. Looks a nice balanced approach to the crease, good rotation, plenty of energy through the crease and nice whip of the wrist.

Obviously, the difficulty of leg spin is consistency and accuracy. If you can bowl like that consistently, then it looks fine to me. If not, I don't see anything in that action that would need a serious fix. Just a case of bowling over and over again until it it is consistent.
 
My son has a big game on tomorrow. He is in the senior comp against some pretty exclusive colleges with strong cricket traditions.

All day game , in a heat wave, on turf and he is the only spinner picked so he should get some overs I reckon.


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Thanks TonyM.

Jimmy had a good session yesterday afternoon before todays big game. I could hear the ball buzzing like a big fat bumble bee. Getting it to wobble and drift then spinning with big revs. Landing it in good spots.

Got a wicket in his first over of club cricket last week. He was too full for first 5 balls but had the batsmen coming forward then the last ball was just perfect and spun a long way. Had a pretty good player out of his crease and stumped.

Just hope this wicket today is fast and bouncy.
 
someblokecalleddave said:
How many overs in that format, if he bowls well what might he get over-wise?
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50 overs but they lost today and it was a knockout comp so that is that. The opposition was an Anglican boarding college from up in the mountains and they were a little bit too good today.

They had one outstanding batsman, this huge bearded young bloke that took our bowlers apart.

Jimmy only got a bowl after the game was all but lost but he did manage to get the big fellow out. Here is what happened.... now this guy was well set and hitting boundaries all over the place. They lost the ball 3 times, one went out on the highway and nearly caused a car pile-up! He won the game in the end.

The temp is nearly a ton, there are bushfires all around us and fire trucks going all day. The wind is gusting about 80 kmh and dry. Smoke everwhere. Great pitch for legspin, hard, grassy, bouncy and a bit of wear and tear and crumbly stuff.

Now my young bloke is at the top of his mark, spinning the ball hand to hand before his first ball and I am thinking maybe he will be too slow through the air and this big b*****d will play him off the pitch and possibly knock him out of the attack.

First ball loops up and looks a tad slow, lands on a good length but get smashed for 6 over long on. Ball 2, same thing almost but this is more a hoik over cow corner. Not looking good. 12 runs from 2 balls, never happened to him before but after the game he reckons it did not faze him.

Ball 3, faster, less loopier big legbreak and the bigfella goes to cut/square drive it and gets caught at 1st slip. Well he didn't look like getting out until my son got at him.

He bowled pretty good after that and really got some big sidespin happening.
 
macca said:
First ball loops up and looks a tad slow, lands on a good length but get smashed for 6 over long on. Ball 2, same thing almost but this is more a hoik over cow corner. Not looking good. 12 runs from 2 balls, never happened to him before but after the game he reckons it did not faze him.

Ball 3, faster, less loopier big legbreak and the bigfella goes to cut/square drive it and gets caught at 1st slip. Well he didn't look like getting out until my son got at him.
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Sounds to me like he set him up nicely with some deliberate short stuff and then a quicker flatter one that had the batter swinging losely ;)

It's a very good sign that he wasn't fazed at all by getting hit for a couple of 6's. Coming on, when he did, against a good batsmen who is well set and with the game pretty much done, is not easy. You are assured of the batter playing some big shots and it could get messy. Someone with the right leg spinner's mindset should relish that prospect because you want the batters coming at you and it's a great opportunity to take wickets. Sounds like your lad handled it very well.
 
His first couple of deliveries were probably a bit overpitched, too loopy and slow. And I was thinking he was out of his league, and still too young to take on senior players. He did have an 80>kmh wind from cover which usually goes well for him and he has trained in a lot.

You know some bowlers lose control in extreme hot and windy conditions, but you have to go out on these days and train and not sit in air conditioning thinking "its too hot and windy to have a bowl today"

He reckons he was just getting used to the turf for the first couple and didn't try to rip one till ball 3, which spun and bounced enough too get the edge pretty high up on the bat. 1st slip took it up near his chest. After that he really got some sharp spin and bounce but still did not handle the lefthander as well as the right handers.
 
macca said:
He reckons he was just getting used to the turf for the first couple and didn't try to rip one till ball 3, which spun and bounced enough too get the edge pretty high up on the bat. 1st slip took it up near his chest. After that he really got some sharp spin and bounce but still did not handle the lefthander as well as the right handers.
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I find it tricky to try and rip it from ball one. But it is something I try to do now because if you don't you are just giving the batter a few sighters.

I've never been too keen on bowling to left-handers. It's funny but Shane Warne enjoyed bowling to left handers more than right handers. It makes logical sense to enjoy it more. I was watching the Pakistan left-arm finger spinner Zulfiqar Babar bowling today against Graeme Smith. He was impressive. Big revs for a finger spinner and he was getting the ball to just drift away from the left-hander and then spin back in quite sharply. Obviously, the LBW is much more on the cards against the left-hander and that's why Warne enjoyed bowling to them. Like everything, it's just a question of practice. For me, I don't get to bowl to left-handers very often at all (there's only one or two at my whole club!). Anyone in that position should just work away on their own on a left-hander's line. Either that or ask someone nicely to bat left-handed for 20mins or so.
 
Cleanprophet said:
I find it tricky to try and rip it from ball one. But it is something I try to do now because if you don't you are just giving the batter a few sighters.

I've never been too keen on bowling to left-handers. It's funny but Shane Warne enjoyed bowling to left handers more than right handers. It makes logical sense to enjoy it more. I was watching the Pakistan left-arm finger spinner Zulfiqar Babar bowling today against Graeme Smith. He was impressive. Big revs for a finger spinner and he was getting the ball to just drift away from the left-hander and then spin back in quite sharply. Obviously, the LBW is much more on the cards against the left-hander and that's why Warne enjoyed bowling to them. Like everything, it's just a question of practice. For me, I don't get to bowl to left-handers very often at all (there's only one or two at my whole club!). Anyone in that position should just work away on their own on a left-hander's line. Either that or ask someone nicely to bat left-handed for 20mins or so.
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Yeah his problem with lefties lately I reckon is he has had a break from bowling for the first time in 8 years and has forgotten how to bowl at their type.

Club game he reckons the pitch wasn't wide enough to bowl at the lefthander! He loved the turf wicket yesterday because it was like a road.

We have spent a lot of time dealing with lefthanders and I have got pretty good at batting lefthanded as well. Trying to keep it simple and getting the line right so he mainly lands his stock ball outside their off stump normally works for him.

Lefthander yesterday was charging down the wicket every ball, even before it was bowled. I reckon my young bloke would have got him if he had more overs at him. I might do some lefthanded charging down the wicket at him next net session just to wind him up.
 
macca said:
Lefthander yesterday was charging down the wicket every ball, even before it was bowled. I reckon my young bloke would have got him if he had more overs at him. I might do some lefthanded charging down the wicket at him next net session just to wind him up.
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It is a strange one when you face those gung-ho type of batters. Technically, they're pretty woeful batters and it can be tricky to work on your bowling with those sort of batters in mind. If you give it a good rip and get decent movement on the ball through the air (especially some nice dip), then the charging batter does all the wicket taking work for you.

In other words, I wouldn't bother spending too much time working on him facing a charging batter. Unless he gets unsettled by the batter charging, I'd not spend too much time working on that one. Batting left-handed and working on the line just outside off-stump will be very good practice. The drifting ball is much more effective against left-handers than right-handers.
 
Young blokes club game was a spinfest with no less than 7 legspinners having a go. Dead wicket though, I didn't like the look of the pitch and it was too slow for the bowlers.

One "chinaman" bowler (politically correct still?) impressed me. In fact the opposition had 3 good wrist spinners but their home wicket isn't helping them.

We have a champion left handed batsman that plays legspin better then anyone else in the comp and he played their spinners like a pro. Every bad ball got the treatment.

Its always a fair bet that a team with 4 legspinners as their attack are going to make their batting line-up familiar with facing legspin. That and the slow wicket made me think our spinners might have a hard day at the office but that didn't happen.

Our spinners kept it tight and you could tell where getting more revs. More drop and bounce, faster through the air and off the pitch. Makes a big difference.
 
Sounds good Macca, it's a shame you haven't got the resources to video the spinners on both teams and edit it together to make a video every now and then, it'd be great to see.
 
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