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Bouncer;123411 said:
A good source from wendouree tells me they had it in the bag the whole time. Apparently they were never in doubt, knew they were too strong in the batting for the mounties. Pyke (apparently the controversial wicket) was pretty pi$%ed off but the win made him feel better about it. Still doesn't make the mounties reputation for stretching the rules any better, you would think they would try and get away from that shadow, move away from win at any length...

As for my thirds Don, going along just fine, and ill take a typo over a wasted loaf any day of the week.
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Are the old Wendouree/Mt.clear rivalry rares its head again......Wendouree still haven't gotten over that game 25 years ago when they forgot to prepare for the game and turn up with stumps...think they should try and move on. As it happens the mountie captain tells me they forgot to bring a scorebook or team sheet to the 20/twenty final as well however Mt.Clear showed good sportsmanship by allowing the game to proceed. Stick that up your 'Shadow' bouncer!
 
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Bouncer;123411 said:
A good source from wendouree tells me they had it in the bag the whole time. Apparently they were never in doubt, knew they were too strong in the batting for the mounties. Pyke (apparently the controversial wicket) was pretty pi$%ed off but the win made him feel better about it. Still doesn't make the mounties reputation for stretching the rules any better, you would think they would try and get away from that shadow, move away from win at any length...

As for my thirds Don, going along just fine, and ill take a typo over a wasted loaf any day of the week.
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Pykey is a good quality player and competitor. Im sure he wasn't happy about the decision but he is the kind of bloke that will take it on board and move on.
As for Mount Clear going to their old ways, isn't it the umpires decision to call the no ball. It's not the mounties fault that Pyke was given out (yes he didn't deserve the send off) and only the umpires have the power to change a decision. The captain just can't say "sorry umps but i think that was a no ball". Im sure Pykey made them aware of it and still the umpires didn't do anything. ******** happens
 
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the_don88;123436 said:
Pykey is a good quality player and competitor. Im sure he wasn't happy about the decision but he is the kind of bloke that will take it on board and move on.
As for Mount Clear going to their old ways, isn't it the umpires decision to call the no ball. It's not the mounties fault that Pyke was given out (yes he didn't deserve the send off) and only the umpires have the power to change a decision. The captain just can't say "sorry umps but i think that was a no ball". Im sure Pykey made them aware of it and still the umpires didn't do anything. ******** happens
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Haha. Well done Bouncer. Stirring sh*t again! But i must stick up for the boys here, obviously I am a 'Mountie' supporter. No unfortunately the alias has nothing to do with my sex life. Ultimately it is the umpires decision and they chose to do nothing. They are paid to adjudicate the match you cant place blame on the team. And yes sources report that Wendouree were again un-prepared for the game, and Mt Clear showed sportsmanship by ignoring it. So there was a little controversy from both sides. If we want to string anyone up here it should be the umpires....again.... I hope im not inflaming the discussion from a few pages back. But it does appear that umpires are at the source of quite a bit of discussion this year...
 
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Mountie;123444 said:
I hope im not inflaming the discussion from a few pages back. But it does appear that umpires are at the source of quite a bit of discussion this year...
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As a supporter of Ballarat Cricket I was at the game, and the umpiring was fine Loftsy and that other bloke did a good job and missing the fielding restrictions no-ball was a mistake that nearly all of us could have made. (Don...88 excluded)

It looks like a game that its short/sharp/and a lot of fun. Hopefully its stays on the cricket fixture.
 
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Golden Golly;123462 said:
As a supporter of Ballarat Cricket I was at the game, and the umpiring was fine Loftsy and that other bloke did a good job and missing the fielding restrictions no-ball was a mistake that nearly all of us could have made. (Don...88 excluded)

It looks like a game that its short/sharp/and a lot of fun. Hopefully its stays on the cricket fixture.
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So do you think it is right that they didn't act on it? Its fine that they missed the fielding restriction, but do you think the decision should have been reversed as it was an illegal delivery? with out seeing the rules im pretty sure that it would state in there that if there are too many fielders outside the circle that each following delivery is a no ball, its the same as the behind square rule isn't it? I agree the umpiring was fine, but when you are paid to be the governing body of a cricket match these are the issues you are paid to take action on. Interested to see what you all think...
 
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Mountie;123464 said:
So do you think it is right that they didn't act on it? Its fine that they missed the fielding restriction, but do you think the decision should have been reversed as it was an illegal delivery? with out seeing the rules im pretty sure that it would state in there that if there are too many fielders outside the circle that each following delivery is a no ball, its the same as the behind square rule isn't it? I agree the umpiring was fine, but when you are paid to be the governing body of a cricket match these are the issues you are paid to take action on. Interested to see what you all think...
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I think the decision stands once the finger goes up, batsman should walk and not show dissent or question the decision as Pyke did (didn't one of your players get 4 weeks for something less, as posted above on this thread?).

Like the 3 behind square rule, the umpire must spot it and call the no-ball as the ball is bowled. 4 players were outside the circle when it should have only been three but in the pace of the game it was missed by the fielding side and the umpire.
In my opinion it was bad luck and as the batsman I would have been ********ty but once the finger goes up its out.
 
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Golden Golly;123475 said:
I think the decision stands once the finger goes up, batsman should walk and not show dissent or question the decision as Pyke did (didn't one of your players get 4 weeks for something less, as posted above on this thread?).

Like the 3 behind square rule, the umpire must spot it and call the no-ball as the ball is bowled. 4 players were outside the circle when it should have only been three but in the pace of the game it was missed by the fielding side and the umpire.
In my opinion it was bad luck and as the batsman I would have been ********ty but once the finger goes up its out.
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Fair comment. I agree with your point on the discent issue. But again I point out that the umpires need to be on top of everything. I guess im just reieterating what i stated earlier that if anyone should cop any flack for what transpired it should be the umpires as they are paid to be on top of these types of issues.
 
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Sad day for Cricket in general with the retirement of Warnie. Watching a test match will just not be the same. Australia are in for a few hidings without him.
 
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Colonel;123659 said:
Sad day for Cricket in general with the retirement of Warnie. Watching a test match will just not be the same. Australia are in for a few hidings without him.
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Macgill? No warne obviously but probably could have been in the top 5 spinners in the world had Warne not been around... Thoughts? I dont think Australia is in that bad shape. might have a year or 2 of developement espescially if McGrath follows, but I think the ACB new this was coming a long time ago and have prepared well. Australia has one of the best junior / domestic developement systems in the world. Stuart Clark, Mitchell Johnson, Brett Lee, MacGill... Plently of bats getting around too. Like I said might not be as good as the last 7-8 years, but it still looks pretty good.
 
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Mountie;123682 said:
Macgill? No warne obviously but probably could have been in the top 5 spinners in the world had Warne not been around... Thoughts? I dont think Australia is in that bad shape. might have a year or 2 of developement espescially if McGrath follows, but I think the ACB new this was coming a long time ago and have prepared well. Australia has one of the best junior / domestic developement systems in the world. Stuart Clark, Mitchell Johnson, Brett Lee, MacGill... Plently of bats getting around too. Like I said might not be as good as the last 7-8 years, but it still looks pretty good.
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MacGill is a good spinner but doesn't apply the constant pressure like Warne does.
Can I remind you of the series in Australia against India 2 years ago when with no Warnie or Pidgeon we got smashed and could only draw the series 1-1. Sure with good young bowlers coming through we will smash NZ, WI, SL, PAK, ZIM, BANG, but when we come up against the Curry munchers, Poms, or South Africans we will struggle.
 
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Colonel;123684 said:
MacGill is a good spinner but doesn't apply the constant pressure like Warne does.
Can I remind you of the series in Australia against India 2 years ago when with no Warnie or Pidgeon we got smashed and could only draw the series 1-1. Sure with good young bowlers coming through we will smash NZ, WI, SL, PAK, ZIM, BANG, but when we come up against the Curry munchers, Poms, or South Africans we will struggle.
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Thanks for regurgitating what I just said Colonel. :)
 
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Bam Bam;122713 said:
Struggled. Batting after two blokes get tons is a tough gig but didn't impress with ball or in field. No doubt came of usual preperation....
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Thanks for that. I hope that he does just as well as he does when he plays footy.
 
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pidgeon fan;123722 said:
Thanks for that. I hope that he does just as well as he does when he plays footy.
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So Pidge. McGrath have to be announcing it shortly you would think? Wait for the dust to settle from Warne and then call it a day... As much as Id like to see you fire up in his defense :), I cant say anything bad he is a true champion will be a sad day.
 
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Bouncer;123411 said:
A good source from wendouree tells me they had it in the bag the whole time. Apparently they were never in doubt, knew they were too strong in the batting for the mounties. Pyke (apparently the controversial wicket) was pretty pi$%ed off but the win made him feel better about it. Still doesn't make the mounties reputation for stretching the rules any better, you would think they would try and get away from that shadow, move away from win at any length...

As for my thirds Don, going along just fine, and ill take a typo over a wasted loaf any day of the week.

[JD Bouncer - i think that the point you are missing is that Pyke was the one who was (trying to win at any length). He has smashed it into the gloves of the keeper and then sooked about there being 4 outside the circle. How could he have counted within 1 second that this was the case. He already new before the ball was bowled but did not care as he had taken 17 of the over already. he had it up his sleeve that if i go out i will just pull the poor me card! No Sorry it is the TARGET HEADS who have the win at any length mentality. he stood there sooking for 10 seconds - alot longer than Sidebottom who suspended for 4 weeks. The Mt Clear player merely said to him that the umpire had made his decision and that he was out.]
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Mountie;123751 said:
So Pidge. McGrath have to be announcing it shortly you would think? Wait for the dust to settle from Warne and then call it a day... As much as Id like to see you fire up in his defense :), I cant say anything bad he is a true champion will be a sad day.
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He has told a fair amount of people that he doesn't want to retire yet. He will as soon as he is ready to. Don't forget he was out of the game for 9 months because of his wife's battle with breast cancer during the year. I would love to see him play until after the world cup.
 
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Glenn McGrath has announced his retirement from all forms of cricket effective after the World Cup next year. I am going to miss him as he is my favourite player. So now that he has retired I am hoping that whoever gets to wear the coverted number 11 top will become my favourite player.
 
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Well yesterday we got some much needed rain for the grounds. I truly hope their is more where that came from. i would be willing to give up a couple of games because of washouts if it means the grounds can be safer, its getting to the stage where players are getting scared to get behind the ball.
It can also have a negative effect to the bowlers. Pre christmas i played in a couple of games where a bowler sends down a nice delivery, the batsmen drives the ball normally. The mid off fielder gets down to field the ball and it nearly takes his head off and goes for four!!! And the four runs goes toward the bowler. Batsmen all round the teams will be licking their lips after the christmas break, their are alot of runs up for grabs if they have determination to dig in.
 
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Bouncer;123411 said:
A good source from wendouree tells me they had it in the bag the whole time.......

Bouncer - I notice that Liam Brady has been doing some penance in the 2's the last few games and making runs (139 n.o. last game). Being a Wendouree man can you confirm if there is any truth to the rumour that Brades may have fallen out of favour with the selectors and the club?
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Well what a week in cricket. Their were a couple of big upsets over the week. Who would of thought that Naps could of gone from making 360 for the loss of 5 or 6 wicket against Mount Clear to being bowled out by Brown Hill. Did they just have an off day? or is Mount Clears bowling line up a bit suspect?
Golden Point can't seem to get the Mountie dominance of them off their back. They were flogged.
And who would of thought that East would step up after their dismal performance at the start of the year and knock off premiership contender Wendouree? (I believe i predicted that). Could Wendouree of peaked too early?? The top four are now 8 points clear. Any predictions for who will make the finals and who won't?
 
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