City of Moorabbin Cricket Association 09/10

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I was talking with Bunter at the end of last season and he was going to push forward the idea of weekly podcats from the Sunday morning radio show on Southern FM, as well as an imbedded link to the Bentleigh ANA Cricket Show.
 
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Clock,Uncle Mick, and Adam,

Far be it for Old Merl to heap praise on the Congress but the nuggety left hander wicket keeper batsman has made a bit of a start on a rise from the ashes of the website.I had a bit of a trawl through parts of it tonight and the jury is still out on the verdict.

On a scale of good to excellent, it is okay , however I will raise the following points as if you say they do read this forum they can get to work and fix the following:

They must be nostradamus as the President and Secretaries item and the BBQ mob AGM have both been last updated in the future maybe, Michael J Fox did it for them!

They still refer to the old web address on the contacts page

Condelezza is still the contact, out by Wiliamstown pier when it was reported there would be a female touch.

the link to the cmcua is non existant, as it has been for over 12 months.

there is no hits counter to see the popularity of the site.

The tribunal results are so out of date that they shouldn't even be displayed.I did not even know Mr P went before the tribunal so those of you reading this please have the old details deleted and the new ones added if you are fair dinkum about taking notice of what Joe public wants.

Clock your comments suggest that you are in the inner circle or has someone very close to the inner circle because not even Merl's impeccable sources had any of that info!

The information on the clubs is good and will be useful.

The site is well set out and less busy than the predessor with a bright and breezey colour scheme.

Any site can look good but the proof of the pudding is what goes into it.

Time to spend a bit of cabbage and get the thing working with plenty of information as reported by Clock and UM.

Bottsy has the camel train landed to up date us of your whereabouts?

Archie has Blairy got over that St.Kilda like defeat at the home of cricket on Sunday?

Adam have you sobered up yet?

Burger are you still alive?Are the Rockers still alive or is this their last game for the year.

Good to see the forum up and about as the footy boots will be replaced by the flannels and warm days.A bit of new talent doesn't hurt either

Until next time.................................... Merlot
 
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Old merl it is a starting point i think some patience is a virtue is in order, no doubt they have some more work to do but slow progress is better then no progress so give it some time to be fair.
 
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Gee I nearly dropped my bottle of Merlot when I logged on and saw the padlock I thought we had been sent to coventry again and the night time jottings would be suspended again.

No doubt the other thread is full up to pussies bow and therefore we need a bit more room that this thread provides.

Arch

I believe you have some information on a possible BBQ recruit wishing to rejoin the group?More to follow!

Did try to visit the new web site but didn't get past the front door oe even a chance to ring the bell.Will try tomorrow.

Until next time.................................... Merlot
 
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Merlot,

To keep your inquisitive and insightful mind (according to some) at rest I can now confirm that I am heading back to Widdop Crescent and Dean will be staying at Mackie. This only became official two days ago.

Dean was never a part of the equation and it was time for myself to go back to the guys that I've played a lot of cricket with over the years and have a lot of history with.

I enjoyed a great 3 years with Mackie and we were always knocking on the door of taking home that elusive flag. I wish them all the best and never regretted my decision to go there.

I am excited to be back at the Westars and hopefully we can go the next step and be back where we belong in Longmuir Shield despite Mick's forecast of Highett West getting the job done.
 
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Clocker Flag Odds:12/8/2009

East Sandringham: 2/1
West Bentleigh:3/1
Bentleigh Uniting & Brighton Union: 5/1
Bentleigh ANA: 15/1
Mackie: 20/1
Omega, Le Page 25/1
Elwood, Carnegie South, Kingston Heath, Washington Park 50/1[/QUOTE]

Clocker good work with the flag odds, is there any chance you may do up a lst of flag odds for Woolnough Shield i am very interested in what sides people think will push close to the promotion in Longy.
 
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brett;360727 said:
Clocker Flag Odds:12/8/2009

East Sandringham: 2/1
West Bentleigh:3/1
Bentleigh Uniting & Brighton Union: 5/1
Bentleigh ANA: 15/1
Mackie: 20/1
Omega, Le Page 25/1
Elwood, Carnegie South, Kingston Heath, Washington Park 50/1

Clocker good work with the flag odds, is there any chance you may do up a lst of flag odds for Woolnough Shield i am very interested in what sides people think will push close to the promotion in Longy.[/QUOTE]

Happy to do so Brett, as soon as the Woolnough and C grade draw is announced.I would have thought that these would have been available by now since 95% of the 1st teams are located in the top three grades.
 
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Bottsy;360718 said:
Merlot,

To keep your inquisitive and insightful mind (according to some) at rest I can now confirm that I am heading back to Widdop Crescent and Dean will be staying at Mackie. This only became official two days ago.

Dean was never a part of the equation and it was time for myself to go back to the guys that I've played a lot of cricket with over the years and have a lot of history with.

I enjoyed a great 3 years with Mackie and we were always knocking on the door of taking home that elusive flag. I wish them all the best and never regretted my decision to go there.

I am excited to be back at the Westars and hopefully we can go the next step and be back where we belong in Longmuir Shield despite Mick's forecast of Highett West getting the job done.

Along with yourself Mr Bott, there is a very strong rumour suggesting MW other favourite son at the bowling crease will be rejoining you to head the attack down at Widdop. If this is true and the man's back is OK, the Westars would have to be extremely short favourites for 09/10.

I doubt Mick's boys will stand in your way, the RSL will be your biggest threat, ANA and Union will provide nuisance value and the rest will provide 10 point opportunities.
 
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Merlot a good drop;360715 said:
Gee I nearly dropped my bottle of Merlot when I logged on and saw the padlock I thought we had been sent to coventry again and the night time jottings would be suspended again.

No doubt the other thread is full up to pussies bow and therefore we need a bit more room that this thread provides.

Arch

I believe you have some information on a possible BBQ recruit wishing to rejoin the group?More to follow!

Did try to visit the new web site but didn't get past the front door oe even a chance to ring the bell.Will try tomorrow.

Until next time.................................... Merlot

Gday Merl,
I've been off the air for a few weeks, and didn't take the old lap top with me.
When i got home, i wasted no time in getting out and about, and came across a couple of nice tit bits.
Word has it that an ex umpire who served it up on the committee and also on the ground is asking permission to return to the comp, however, it appears that some of the older BBQ brigade are going to make it hard for him to return.
Seems silly really, as he's not a bad umpire and has done the big gig on a couple of occasions, he's just got to learn to relax a bit, and let the players be players.
You would think that the umpires boss could forgive and forget for the better of the comp, maybe he copped a crook sausage a long the way, or has been triggered.
Interesting to read the same stuff about salary caps etc, just get on with it boys and loose the jealousy.
If a club is well structured then they've got every right to spend their money on coaches / players / assistant coaches ete etc.
Its good for the comp to have some classy cricketers playing, and if the club structures their payment wisely, then everyone benefits.
Remember when Wallet Park had Tim Currency and Arthur Wallet, and nearly everyone of their firsts on bonus's, it didn't destroy the club, and there still viable today.
There's probably at least 5 clubs who are paying their players by suggesting they are coaches.
Speaking of which, i also heard that the great man with the crook back was returning, for alott less than he's received over the last couple of seasons, hopefully he'll get back to some good form, but MAY be better to only bowl 20overs in stead of 36.
I'm not sure about what Jimmy Olsen was on about being a doyen, maybe he was on the kryptinite with Lois Lane, and got a head rush.
The boys down the highway appear to have picked up a couple of good bowlers, one is real quick and has played some good cricket.
Haven't seen Blairy for a while, i think he may be frazzeld with speculation overload.
I like Clockers odd's there will be only 5 to 6 teams in the running, and Wooly will have about the same, interestingly, the good old two blues still fancy themselves to go straight back up.
Merl, i can't make it this week but hope you enjoy your weekend away in the snowfields with the mcc members, maybe sugar and you can build a snowman.
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wouldnt be suggesting steve may back to moorabbin west now would you quilton?

any informed sources?

one of minetold me he was never going to play there again, but that might have been in the heat of the moment. and it was a few years ago, so water under the bridge perhaps?
would really bolster moorabbin wests batting attack. dont worry about the bowling, with the workers, that aydin bloke and ash bott, plus a handy spinner here and there...be the best bowling attack in the comp.

all in all, should be a tight woolnough grade this year with centrals, m west, h west and brighton, plus maybe another smokey. things could get interesting in the race for promotion to the premier division.
 
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Archie,

Good to see you back and confirm the 6 burner BBQ rumour that I believe has even reached the oval office for jurisdiction.
A great piece of writing with some great news in there.

Ashley,

Welcome back home I hope the camel train ride from the oasis to the dusty Widdop playing fields wasn't too taxing.

Inquisitive and insightfull was that a compliment.

We will have the new Bermuda triangle in Wooly with yourselves,Uncle Mick's mob and Burger Bourbon if he is still with us and can confirm the rumour that he will pull on the Woolly jumper once again.

If Jimmy's mob get going we could have the Bluff rd cup being fought out by 4 close neighbours.

Anyway time to log off and see a couple of poms lose their wickets

until next time..................................... Merlot
 
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Clint;360881 said:
wouldnt be suggesting steve may back to moorabbin west now would you quilton?

any informed sources?

one of mine told me he was never going to play there again, but that might have been in the heat of the moment. and it was a few years ago, so water under the bridge perhaps?
would really bolster moorabbin wests batting attack. dont worry about the bowling, with the workers, that aydin bloke and ash bott, plus a handy spinner here and there...be the best bowling attack in the comp.

all in all, should be a tight woolnough grade this year with centrals, m west, h west and brighton, plus maybe another smokey. things could get interesting in the race for promotion to the premier division.

I wouldn't go writing off the boys from Gold Cap park. If they can snatch a few early wins during the Spring Carnival when their numbers are at their lowest, there's every chance they'll figure in the March action.
 
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We may not take it seriously, but Cricket Victoria does Merlot:
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Severe penalties imposed on Hawks
On top of the pain of a record operating loss announced at their 2009 AGM, the Hawthorn-Monash University Cricket Club (HMUCC) has been hit with severe sanctions for breaching Cricket Victoria (CV) rules last season. They are the most extreme penalties imposed on any club since the introduction of professional player rules in the early 1980s.
Sanctions include fines totalling $12,500, the loss of premiership and Club Championship points for last season, suspensions on individual players and restrictions on the appointment of any professional players for the next three seasons.
The sanctions conclude a tumultuous year for the Hawks. As well as financial woes, relationships with the University and other CV Member Clubs were severely strained and a number of players defected towards the end of the season.
Following a post-season upheaval, including the defeat of a proposal to move away from the University and the subsequent resignation of then President Glenn Jones, an interim administration of the Club approached CV in May and early June to advise of a parlous financial position. Upon full investigation, a disastrous loss of $138,541 was reported to members for the 2008-09 season, the most significant club loss ever recorded. HMUCC sought the support of CV and Monash University in an effort to continue and trade its way out of its predicament and undertook to produce a report detailing its circumstances with the help of the Club Auditor.
The report cited several contributing reasons for the Club's malaise, including poor accounting processes and financial reporting procedures, inappropriate expenditure decisions and examples of poor governance practices. Further, the report indicated that there may have been some irregularities regarding professional player rules during the 2008-09 season. Each Premier Club is permitted to have two 1st XI professional players per season, with HMUCC registering English players Chris Benham and Roger Sillence in 2008/09.
The CV Pennant Committee (PC) immediately launched an investigation into the professional player matter and this enquiry was concluded last week. The PC found that HMUCC had indeed breached CV rules and, between the Board and PC, the following penalties were imposed:
• A Board-imposed fine of $2,500 for Criteria Assessment breaches relating to financial liquidity and breaches to policy relating to a capital grant extended to the Club in 2007.
• A fine of $10,000 ($5,000 of this fine is to be suspended until the end of the 2011/12 season) for breach of professional player rules.
• HMUCC stripped of all 1st XI match points and 1st XI Club Championship points earned in 2008/09. These match points and Club Championship points will not be reallocated to opposition teams. The PC believes that, whilst the penalty was purely academic, should the offence have occurred during the season, a penalty of this nature and magnitude would have applied and it is vital that all Premier Clubs are aware of this.
• HMUCC will not be permitted to appoint any professional 1st XI players for at least three seasons (2009/10, 2010/11 & 2011/12).
Individual player penalties imposed were:
SIMON DART
Guilty of breaching his amateur status in 2008-09 and suspended for two matches.
LUKAS HOOGENBOOM
Guilty of breaching his amateur status and reprimanded.
STEVEN SPOLJARIC
Guilty of breaching his amateur status in 2008/09 and suspended until 1 December 2009 (deemed to be the equivalent of eight matches).
Commenting on the penalties, CV CEO Tony Dodemaide said “These are indeed heavy sanctions and an important message to other Clubs with respect to proper governance and financial management practices.
“We recognise that the newly-elected administration has been open and transparent in cooperating with the investigation and is genuine in its desire to revive the Club and rebuild its reputation with Monash University, Victorian cricket and the wider community. This was taken into account in reaching the decisions.
“CV and its members are mindful of the great history, tradition, heritage and evolution of the Club stretching over 150 years and have worked actively with the Club and its supporters in an effort to help it recover from the regrettable events of the last couple of years. It has produced great names such as Frank Laver, Peter McAlister, Ray Steele, Ben Barnett, Bob Cowper, Ian Law, John Chambers and Peter Roach and has won nine premierships, the most recent in 1998-99.
“We hope that it can continue that proud tradition well into the future with the valuable support of a great institution like Monash University.”
He added “It is indeed sad and alarming that the Club could end up in this position, and we wish new Club President Petar Ivetic and his committee well in their endeavours from here. They have certainly taken up the challenge with gusto so far. We understand new players and sponsors are being attracted, so the outlook is positive.
“Under CV's current rules and regulations, sanctions for breaches of the Premier Match Rules are limited to players and Clubs. In an effort to further discourage a repeat of the events at HMUCC, the Board and Members of CV are looking at extending the reach of its rules to allow sanctions to also be levied in future against any officials or administrators found to have knowingly breached or participated in breaches of the Premier Match Rules. We will also look at new ways to provide earlier warning signals of potential problems at Clubs, and avenues to step in accordingly.”
HMUCC and CV have each signed-off an agreement which ensures that the Club fulfils various obligations including payment of fines and other funds to be recovered.
 
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Clock,

It is not rocket science as I recall the cmca did request clubs to supply their finacial records many years ago.

While the cash economy has always been alive and well at the end of the day a stat dec is still a stat dec, with serious reprecustions if falsified.

There is no good having rules and then blindly ignoring them so as to not upset or bring into line a club or clubs who need to be brought into line.

The selling and serving of alcohol during a match is a classic example where it is or was unless it has been changed recently, against the rules of the CMCA.

barrack needs to show some leadership before we end up with the Collingwood Richmond bidding wars of the 80's


Until next time......................... Merlot
 
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:DWoolnough early market: In one what promises to be an interesting season Woolnough may actually take some of the attention away from the Longmuir Shield.

Moorabbin West: 2/1: Losing Grand finalists for the last two seasons, and they have moved quickly to strengthen their squad with the return of Ash Bott & possibly others.Rumor has it that Ash Worker may have hung up the boots due to injury. Big loss if this is the case, however the addition of Bott and others will strengthen their batting and will give their bowling additional grunt with Aydin and Steve Worker. Bottsy is still a dangerous bowler and on his day, and will hurry up a few batsmen with their shots. Team to beat for the flag.

Hampton Central: 3/1: Will be stung into action after a disappointing 2008-2009 season. On paper still a very strong team and if Amoore gets going he could have a big year ie 600+ runs.They have to avoid the traps of becoming complacent.Expect to see a few of their juniors come through the ranks from reports have a couple of good ones who could make an impact.

Bentleigh Uniting: 3/1: Will be the big surprise packet this season and they will challenge a number of the top teams with their exciting juniors which are coming through.Very strong club and are now starting to reap the benefits of a implenting an aggresive youth policy. They will make finals at the end of the season and would not surprise me if they were crowned as premiers.

Brighton Union: 5/1: Losing preliminary finalists last season. Ended their season with a very disappointing batting performance against Moorabbin West.Under the guidance of Con Gorozides they continued to develop a number of the youth whilst the veterans contributed. Suffered some telling injuries at the end of the season which affected their team balance.They will be thereabouts come the end of the season.

Bentleigh ANA: 12/1:promised a lot last season but ended the season with 4 wins and a draw. A lot of emphasis on youth and were happy to give them experience in lieu of wins. Will be different this year, and if a couple of the younger ‘veterans’ who have been at the club for a number of years playing in the lower grades put their respective heads down, then they could surprise a few teams.

Highett West: 20/1: Took a while to get going and were 2/4 win/loss after six rounds.Lucky to make the finals in the end, but make they did and they gave a good account for themselves in the semi final against Union. They really need to focus on their fielding as they tend to drop away as the day progresses, and as a result dropped a number of crucial catches during the season which cost them games (possibly a final) or resulted in having to chase big scores. They cannot afford a slow start to the season as the competition is much stronger this season.

East Sandringham: 25/1:Missed out on finals by percentage, but I have to question whether their veterans may be feeling their years and relying too much on the youth in the field. Their batting can be erratic and could cause them problems this season.Their bowling is tight without being necessarily penetrating. On their day they can beat anyone, just have a feeling they will struggle this season.

Hampton United: 30/1:Seemed finals bound after 6 rounds with a 4/2 record and then hit the wall to win 1 more game for the rest of the season. May have lost one or two of their more experienced players which will put pressure on an already limited list.Paul Dixon has been appointed as coach and there will be more pressure on him this season as he undertakes dual roles.Once again Mark Bell will bear the brunt of the bowling and also be required to make a lot of runs.Hopefully he will put a little more value on his wicket rather than just blazing away early.Can’t see them threatening this season with a lot of opposition teams structuring their tactics around Bell & Dixon, assuming the latter is not injured.

Omega: 33/1: After 6 rounds were sitting at 3/3 record, and then fell away badly to win one more game for the season. They really need to start injecting more youth into their team as they rely far too much on the veterans.Their batting was a major disappointment to many within the club and they will have to rectify this. They will struggle this year win many matches.

Cluden: 50/1: All credit to Cluden for having the courage to step up at the last minute and take on Woolnough last season. They ended up with 5 wins and a draw and were in the finals mix right upto the end.This season will be a lot harder for them and test their depth.

Brighton Central:100/1: They were poor last season and seemed to be going through the motions on a lot of occasions.The club’s focus will always be on their turf teams, and using Woolnough as a development for some of their kids. I cannot see them doing anything but preparing for C Grade in 2010-2011.
 
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Not bad, Clocker. I notice that you've excluded Southside and Aspendale/Edithvale from the list. My sources tell me Sotuhside applied for Woolnough and with the draw yet to be released, I can only imagine you have impeccable sources like those of our infamous vino sipping poster and that Southside are out, with Asp/Edi being an oversight.....?
Uniting will be an interesting one. I've played Woolnough for all but 1 year since its inception and they've been a consistent yo-yo. Obviously more than capable in C Grade, but have never been able to cut it in the poor man's Longmuir Shield.
The other West deserve favouritism and depending on how Centrals respond to last season (moreso depending on Maysie's back), should be their biggest challenger. Don't think there's much between, Union, ESBC, Asp/Edi & my mob.
ANA seem to be making some ground with the kids, but Hampton United rely too heavily on their main 2. Given how dominant Bell has been in the past few seasons they're more than capable if a few others can stick their hand up. Macnoe hanging up the bat will hurt as his ability to see off the new pill is crucial to how the other 2 go
Cluden are a young outfit and looked promising for mine. Just lacked guidance and a bit of polish from the veterans.
Omega seemed to have dropped off last year, but the previous 2 years have been pretty competitive.
Brighton Central aside, I think just about any team is capable of winning on their day.
My reckoning is the ladder will look something like:
Hampton Central
Moorabbin West
Highett West
ESBC

Brighton Union
Bentleigh ANA
Aspendale/Edithvale
Hampton United
Cluden
Omega
Bentleigh Uniting
Brighton Central
 
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Clocker am i to assume that the RSL sit at odds outside of 100/1 in the Woolnough market?
 
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My apologies for the oversight gents.Accidently deleted it.

Aspendale-Edithvale: 50/1.
As reigining premiers they suffered the inevitable let down last season.Loss of players, and probably a lack of commitment did not help their cause. Cannot see much improvement on their part this season and expect them to make up the numbers.Unfortunately when a club has no vision as to where they want to be playing in the future this can and does occur.

Southside: 10,000/1. Absolute rabble last season and should not even be considered for C Grade let alone Woolnough as they are not upto it. Some very good blokes at their club, however they need to start again and should get themselves down to a grade where they can begin the process of rebuilding their club.A good start would be to ensure that they have their canteen open during and after a game.
 
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southside have a canteen?
where abouts would it be located?
i thought it had a big KFC on the front door and it was located about 200 meters behind the pavilion?
i hate playing there, because i always forget that its byo everything.
mr whippie would make a Killing
 
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Uncle Mick;361530 said:
Not bad, Clocker. I notice that you've excluded Southside and Aspendale/Edithvale from the list. My sources tell me Sotuhside applied for Woolnough and with the draw yet to be released, I can only imagine you have impeccable sources like those of our infamous vino sipping poster and that Southside are out, with Asp/Edi being an oversight.....?
Uniting will be an interesting one. I've played Woolnough for all but 1 year since its inception and they've been a consistent yo-yo. Obviously more than capable in C Grade, but have never been able to cut it in the poor man's Longmuir Shield.
The other West deserve favouritism and depending on how Centrals respond to last season (moreso depending on Maysie's back), should be their biggest challenger. Don't think there's much between, Union, ESBC, Asp/Edi & my mob.
ANA seem to be making some ground with the kids, but Hampton United rely too heavily on their main 2. Given how dominant Bell has been in the past few seasons they're more than capable if a few others can stick their hand up. Macnoe hanging up the bat will hurt as his ability to see off the new pill is crucial to how the other 2 go
Cluden are a young outfit and looked promising for mine. Just lacked guidance and a bit of polish from the veterans.
Omega seemed to have dropped off last year, but the previous 2 years have been pretty competitive.
Brighton Central aside, I think just about any team is capable of winning on their day.
My reckoning is the ladder will look something like:
Hampton Central
Moorabbin West
Highett West
ESBC

Brighton Union
Bentleigh ANA
Aspendale/Edithvale
Hampton United
Cluden
Omega
Bentleigh Uniting
Brighton Central

Did you keep any stats as to how many catches were dropped off your bowling last season? Would be interested to know.
 
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