City of Moorabbin Cricket Association 2010/11

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Chooka said:
What do you mean by that? From my recollection the recent BUCC U16 flags have been won in the Friday night A grade comp. Can’t do much more than that and until they invent an A + plus grade then that’s the highest standard available. Sour grapes perhaps?
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Under 16's is not the only junior grade and I stand by my comments, no sour grapes at all just an observation as well as what I have been told from a few Uniting people.Interesting selections this week Chooka. Jarryd Allen brought straight into the 1sts, but still no room for Tom Backman.Looks like the top 5 in the batting line up is set.
 
Chooka, it looks like Clocker either has a couple of springs loose or is winding you up. As you say, Uniting's juniors were in U16A, U16B and U14A last year, to name a few, and you can't do much better than that.

If the rain persists, it looks like there will be at least 4 one dayers for the home and away season. I know one club that won't be complaining too much about that.
 
CLOCKER said:
Under 16's is not the only junior grade and I stand by my comments, no sour grapes at all just an observation as well as what I have been told from a few Uniting people.Interesting selections this week Chooka. Jarryd Allen brought straight into the 1sts, but still no room for Tom Backman.Looks like the top 5 in the batting line up is set.
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We might have to agree to disagree on this one. Of course you are entitled to your opinion but I reckon you are wrong. If you make such inflammatory remarks and accuse a club, who you name, of manipulating the draw then you should substantiate. As mentioned you can’t do much more than win flags in A grade. On the subject of juniors I reckon BUCC, Mackie, and ANA have done well to get good number back in their juniors after being collectively raped by a neighbouring mob a few years back.
 
Matches called off this weekend
Last updated: Friday October 15, 2010 5:22PM

This afternoon (15 October 2010) the CMCA Executive decided to call off all games scheduled for this weekend owing to the on-going inclement weather. Round 2 matches are now to be played as one-day games next weekend. All walkovers notified to the CMCA are null and void and any club needing to give a walkover will need to notify clubs and myself by the appropriate times next week.

John Adamson
CMCA Secretary

http://cmca.vic.cricket.com.au/pageitem.aspx?id=36910&id2=&eID=39&entityID=39
 
Evening All,

Nice to see Hiliary with a bit of updated news on the forum maybe he/she could join the tipping comp???

Due to the cancellation merl will accept tips until Peter Peter 22 October and tipsters can either leave the tips submitted or resubmit and advise Merl of your resubmission.

I am a little worried as from last reports Archie was stuck in the sub continent on his latest recruiting mission and reports from Brady Rd Kindergarten is that the child has either been grounded,re invented himself as a newbie or has simply lost his tongue.

Some of these newbies have raised the bar with some concise oratory that would do Clock proud.Merl could be out of his depth in both volume and quality!

Colonel Sanders not sure who was the r wording of the local clubs but nice to see it has all been sorted out!

until next time..... keep searching... vino sipping poster.... Prof Merlot
 
Roy said:
Matches called off this weekend
Last updated: Friday October 15, 2010 5:22PM

This afternoon (15 October 2010) the CMCA Executive decided to call off all games scheduled for this weekend owing to the on-going inclement weather. Round 2 matches are now to be played as one-day games next weekend. All walkovers notified to the CMCA are null and void and any club needing to give a walkover will need to notify clubs and myself by the appropriate times next week.

John Adamson
CMCA Secretary

http://cmca.vic.cricket.com.au/pageitem.aspx?id=36910&id2=&eID=39&entityID=39
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What is the world coming to?? Is NOAH arriving with his ARK?? Walkovers?? WTF
 
Clocker
Chooka said:
What do you mean by that? From my recollection the recent BUCC U16 flags have been won in the Friday night A grade comp. Can’t do much more than that and until they invent an A + plus grade then that’s the highest standard available. Sour grapes perhaps?
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what BUCC have done and it shows by there players who fill there top 2 grades that they have developed a winning culture and developed there juniors who have kicked on so how can you begrudge what they are doing as it seems to be working. They have a winning culture plain and simple and there kids come on and improve.
B.McGuiness, A.McGuiness, D.Britt, S.Richards, J.McConville all playing district and have played!

Young Talent on display in top 2 grades who are product of the juniors, S.Richards, Heaney, Middlemiss, A.Zaia, Backman, S.Zaia, J.McConville, M.Allamby, J.Coles, G.Harvey, L.Cody, M.Backman..........all under 24 and all have come through there junior program and having won the Club Champion award something like 7 out of 12 years maybe more how can you knock what there doing Clocker. I wish my club was as well placed as them and with a bit of hard work will be!
 
A winning culture? I'm detecting a theme already of clubs getting ahead of themselves.... How many senior flags have they won in the last 5 years? Not to mention neither of the top 2 sides featured in finals last year.
 
slegnidnhoj said:
Clocker

what BUCC have done and it shows by there players who fill there top 2 grades that they have developed a winning culture and developed there juniors who have kicked on so how can you begrudge what they are doing as it seems to be working. They have a winning culture plain and simple and there kids come on and improve.
B.McGuiness, A.McGuiness, D.Britt, S.Richards, J.McConville all playing district and have played!

Young Talent on display in top 2 grades who are product of the juniors, S.Richards, Heaney, Middlemiss, A.Zaia, Backman, S.Zaia, J.McConville, M.Allamby, J.Coles, G.Harvey, L.Cody, M.Backman..........all under 24 and all have come through there junior program and having won the Club Champion award something like 7 out of 12 years maybe more how can you knock what there doing Clocker. I wish my club was as well placed as them and with a bit of hard work will be!
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Slegnidnhoj,
I am afraid you & Chooka have totally misconstrued my comments. I have never bagged Uniting for their structure, in fact they are arguably the best run club in the CMCA.The above players are a testimony to their incredible commitment to their junior program over the past decade.What I am saying is that Uniting has had a few Junior teams over the years that have played in lower grades that was not consistent with the standard of their personnel at the disposal. I am reliably told they tried it again this season with one of their teams but had it overriden by the Executive.Winning flags is important, but you should always try to play in the best grade.Sometimes that is forgotten.
 
CLOCKER said:
Slegnidnhoj,
I am afraid you & Chooka have totally misconstrued my comments. I have never bagged Uniting for their structure, in fact they are arguably the best run club in the CMCA.The above players are a testimony to their incredible commitment to their junior program over the past decade.What I am saying is that Uniting has had a few Junior teams over the years that have played in lower grades that was not consistent with the standard of their personnel at the disposal. I am reliably told they tried it again this season with one of their teams but had it overriden by the Executive.Winning flags is important, but you should always try to play in the best grade.Sometimes that is forgotten.
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I understand were your coming from Clocker but my point was that what they have managed to do is i guess manipulate the rules which they have been allowed to within the rules and play there juniors in the grade were 'they think' will develop there cricket the best. At a young age there is no substitute for confidence and self belief and that comes with winning games of cricket and making runs and gradually progressing. What would a kid learn if he was out of his depth and could not get past 6 balls on a saturday?? Instead he plays a grade lower and learns how to make a 20 most weeks and works on his game!
We could sit and debate this all day but if a club within the rules see's a better path of development for there kids and there club and it appears to work then good luck to them, all club's have there own set ups and systems some work some don't!

UM i am not from BUCC so i am not getting ahead of myself, rightly or wrongly i gave you my opinion as Clocker did his. And when i was making a reference to a winning culture i was talking about over a long period of time not a short span you are referring too. BUCC have always been proactive when it comes to the running of there club rather then reactive hence the reason we hardly see them drop low down the ladder, some clubs wait until it is to late and the damage is done!
 
CLOCKER said:
Slegnidnhoj,
I am afraid you & Chooka have totally misconstrued my comments. I have never bagged Uniting for their structure, in fact they are arguably the best run club in the CMCA.The above players are a testimony to their incredible commitment to their junior program over the past decade.What I am saying is that Uniting has had a few Junior teams over the years that have played in lower grades that was not consistent with the standard of their personnel at the disposal. I am reliably told they tried it again this season with one of their teams but had it overriden by the Executive.Winning flags is important, but you should always try to play in the best grade.Sometimes that is forgotten.
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So how can the comment “manipulating the draw” not be construed as bagging the club? If you were a bit closer to the fire you would know how tough it was to even keep the juniors going after they were decimated a few years back. Just running a viable program was the priority. Winning a couple of flags was just a bonus and perhaps suitable reward for people like John Halliday, Anthony Ashworth, Steve Harris, Alex Zaia and plenty of others who refused to the let the BUCC juniors wither away, which has happened at plenty of other clubs. Perhaps you have been misinformed but I maintain it was an inflammatory comment that was well out of order. At some point the worm turns and Uniting will endure a lean period in the juniors but you can’t do more than win flags in A grade. (By the way last two 16 A flags have been achieved against much more fancied opponents) For the sake of balance I don’t believe the BUCC are the best run club, have the best culture or even the best junior program. They are on the right track but what I can say is that those who have been involved with their juniors in recent years don’t deserve such ill-informed and incorrect comments.

I have laboured this point long enough and it’s probably time to move on.
 
Uncle Mick said:
Well said, 3peat. Can't accept mediocrity. And as for my previous post, I wasn't having a shot at you champ. Just pointing out we've never been in Longy.
Mr.Lee - little tip. The Beach Boys are The Woods. Gold Caps & Juggernaut are among a few of the names that have been tossed up for the boys from Chisholm. And I agree it should be a cracker. As Jimmy O alluded to, they may be down key personnel, but I reckon that will only bridge the gap and make it a good contest rather than an ESBC whitewash. The Woods look at ESBC with stars in their eyes and until that changes they'll never be a serious threat to them. Manders finding touch early is an ominous sign.....
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That's a little embarassing, simple mistake from me there mick. Dissapointing result with the weather, maybe calling it off a little early there? Would have done the same thing but its a shame the weather had to ruin what was going to be a fantastic round with a few great matches in a 2 day format. Should still be good and quiet possibly a little more exciting squeezing it into a one dayer. Cant wait
 
3peat? said:
I'm going to have to go against you there Shane, I beleive once the season starts you can't make exceptions for anyone. If a fringe player comes out and doesn't do his job and someone excels in the grade below changes should be made, "first game of the year" is a poor excuse and should never be used unless your play junior cricket.
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Thats what i was attempting to say from the start and few people dissagreed with me. Changes are obviously inevitable as coaches/captains are going to do what they think is best and i was simply trying to state that after the one day game next week changes are going to made and im looking forward to seeing the ins and outs
 
Shane Lee said:
That's a little embarassing, simple mistake from me there mick. Dissapointing result with the weather, maybe calling it off a little early there? Would have done the same thing but its a shame the weather had to ruin what was going to be a fantastic round with a few great matches in a 2 day format. Should still be good and quiet possibly a little more exciting squeezing it into a one dayer. Cant wait
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All good, SL. It's not easy to keep up with all the names & references getting tossed around on this thing. I actually thought the early call to cancel Saturday's matches was a great one. It's good to see the CMCA being proactive. Whilst the conditions ended up being such that we possibly could've played some cricket, it certainly wasn't forecast that way. I'd much prefer an uninterrupted (fingers crossed the weather fines up) one day match than an interrupted first day of play that reverts to ordinary conditions on the second week.
 
Shane cut the attitue this chat is not about us, its about the cricketers out there that need that extra little bit of information about the league. This week makes for an interesting week, changing from the two day format to the one day format always changed the way matches swing.

Anyone know of the news that young A.Zaia is injured after a S.N.F.D.T.A (Saturday night fall due to alcohol)? Love to hear some updates
 
Amended Round 2 Tips.
LONGMUIR SHIELD
Juggernaut:No change
Carnegie South: (altered)
Mackie: (altered)
West Bentleigh:No change
Bentleigh Uniting:No change
Bentleigh ANA:No change
WOOLNOUGH: (no changes to selections)
Wash Ups
Bent Utg
Chelsea Hts
East Sandy
Omega
Moorabbin West
 
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