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SHANEBOURNEorWARNE;327479 said:
I love this! ENGLAND are a disgrace, can't beat the West Indies deary me.
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Maybe the West Indies are getting better? Have you ever thought about that or did the thought not cross your mind?

But yeah, the Pommies should have done better.

An injury free Flintoff and England would have most likely won the match.
 
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DoubleO7;327503 said:
Maybe the West Indies are getting better? Have you ever thought about that or did the thought not cross your mind?

But yeah, the Pommies should have done better.

An injury free Flintoff and England would have most likely won the match.
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Yeah I noticed that when Australian were there last year:rolleyes:
 
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SHANEBOURNEorWARNE;327510 said:
Yeah I noticed that when Australian were there last year:rolleyes:
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Yeah, how could he forget that Australia won 3-0 and every test by an innings...
 
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well batted the windies though the england attack was effectively 3 bowlers on the last day with flintoff injured, and harmison looking little better than a part timer at times. Broad though is really looking like he his beginning to reach his potential, the new ball spell yesterday is the best i've ever seen him bowl. England desperately need to find another wicket taking threat for when fred isn't firing in place of harmison and anderson is still a bit ropey, surely we can find 2 more genuinely good seamers to field alongside broad and freddy, sidebottom can on his day but he looks like he may turn out to be injury plagued, still not got his rhythm back england are definitely missing something in the bowling something like simon jones(praying he gets fit for the ashes).
 
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Well Played Powell!! Too bad he was picked for his bowling and not his batting. West Indies now seriously have to ponder his position carefully as he just saved a test match..... but on the other side, his bowling was hardly threatening, It was plain simply rubbish. Also i think England haven't learnt from their previous mistake, remember when india last year was 9 down and they managed to draw the test match, I can't remember the exact test match but i remember the scenario. One bowler who stood out for me was Graemme Swann, He is a real prospect for matches to come and i hope England keep selecting him because it'll be interesting to see Swann Against the Aussies. As we have seen against the South Africans, The aussies struggle against offspin.
 
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England 382/4 nearing Lunch on day 1

Collingwood and Ducky doing it easy following Strauss big hundred yesterday and Cook continuing his fine run of 50's although this time he got to 94

Unfortunately when Ducky got off the mark he stayed out of the record books where he could have joined some elite company of McGrath, Dillon, Martin, Kaneria, Agarkar and M.Waugh with 4 consecutive ducks
 
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eddiesmith;330395 said:
England 382/4 nearing Lunch on day 1

Collingwood and Ducky doing it easy following Strauss big hundred yesterday and Cook continuing his fine run of 50's although this time he got to 94

Unfortunately when Ducky got off the mark he stayed out of the record books where he could have joined some elite company of McGrath, Dillon, Martin, Kaneria, Agarkar and M.Waugh with 4 consecutive ducks
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Pick the odd one out. :D
 
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England reach 600 for the first time in 5 years or something like that and are in the driving seat at the moment, not least by picking up a wicket before the close.

Bopara batted well and along with Ambrose really picked up the pace towards the end. Collingwood did a Cook and lost in the 90's but at least he looks in some sort of form. Though it's hard to read that much into it (pitch looks a decent one and the West Indies attack is inconsistent) at least England have looked more solid in recent tests.

Crucial session first up as I'm sure they liked to pick up 2/3 wickets before lunch. If they don't then it could be a long day chasing leather, especially with the form that Sarwan is in.
 
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Another dominating day for England.

They dismissed Gayle early after declaring for 600. Sarwan and Smith have so far managed to build a partnership of 72 runs, still trailing by 515 runs.

Bopara was clearly the hero of the day, notching up his maiden test century and ambrose also chipped in with an aggressive fifty.

The pitch remains flat and West Indies will be looking forward to avoiding the follow-on.

Alastair Cook is Stephen Fleming mrk2. He needs to convert those half century's!
 
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DoubleO7;330443 said:
Alastair Cook is Stephen Fleming mrk2. He needs to convert those half century's!
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On one hand, he's scoring runs which is a good thing. On the other I feel it's becoming a problem, even more so with the most recent dismissal.

The sooner he reaches 100 in an England shirt the better, the longer it goes on the bigger the issue it's going to become.
 
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Ljp86;330398 said:
Pick the odd one out. :D
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Yeah, McGrath aint that bad :p

I only included Waugh because his comments on Fox Sports piss me off :D

Actually a decent sized list of 4 ducks in a row, only 3 have got 5 in a row (Agarkar, Asif and some bloke many years ago) but the list has grown alot in the last 10 years, been some very poor tailenders
 
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mas cambios;327432 said:
Then again, how many of the Australian players who played in that series are still active? Australia no longer have the likes of McGrath or Warne (or even Hayden and Langer) who had a hold on numerous England squads through the years.

Both teams have lost series to India and South Africa in recent times, both teams have had some degree of 'upheaval' whether it be playing staff or management etc.

Not for one minute do I think that England will coast to the Ashes, but then nor do I think Australia will. I do have to concede that Australia are starting to look the more settled at the moment and will no doubt come over as favourites.

Back to the recent game and well, declarations are funny things and in some ways a little 'damn if you do, damn if you don't'. Did England bat too slowly whilst setting a target or did they leave it too late? Should they have enforced the follow-on in the first place?

A lot of 'what ifs' and no easy answers. I suppose in some ways Strauss felt his hand forced as he had one bowler injured and another feeling unwell, hence the batting again. I'm sure that the team are also carrying some scars from what happened against SA last summer and India recently. Make sure that the game is 'safe', then go for a win. A negative mindset but an understandable one given that England are a team that have seemingly forgotten how to win.
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My point is that if Australia was beaten 5 - 0 then some players would be dropped by the selectors and not retained. Players like Harmison, Bell and Anderson were IMO lucky to still be playing for England after that series.
 
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Smith is LBW to Swann for 55 after a referral but Sarwan is still there and on 63 with Ryan Hinds joining him. West Indies are 2/126 in the 37th over. They'll need to bat all day if the want to save the game as they won't win from here.

One of Sarwan or even Chanderpaul wen he gets his chance must score big.

Still don't know how Anderson gets a game, he's an absolute spud.
 
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Swann gets another LBW, this time it's Hinds who lunges forward to defend but is hit on the pad. The ball would have hit leg-stump.

3/159 and Chanderpaul walks out to the middle, Sarwan on 81 and the deficit is 441.
 
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3/163 at lunch. Chanderpaul hit his first ball for four and is still on that figure. Sarwan is still on 81 also. Swann with two wickets so far, he's bowled pretty well, Monty Panesar seems to be a distant memory at this stage.

Windies trail by 437 with a lot of work to do. As I said earlier, they'll need to bat all day and Chanderpaul and Sarwan will need to be there for most of it. There's 63 overs to go, at the current run rate that's about 205 runs so the deficit will most likely be still over 200 by the close should they get that far.

Long way to go yet.
 
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Well what an amazing day of test cricket, with Sarwan hanging on with an unbeaten 184 to ensure West Indies avoid follow-on, which they still trail by 3 runs.

It was also a day of controversial decisions made by Daryl Harper of Chanderpaul and Nash, who were given out LBW using the not-so-popular referral system.

But West Indies are just about hanging in there.
 
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Windies have passed the first part of the test, they just need to bat for as long as they can on day four and get as close to England's score as possible. Sarwan and Ramdin will need to do much of that as West Indies' tail isn't the best although they showed last game they can bat to save a test.

Sarwan has played beautifully and really deserves a double hundred. He's been the backbone of the West Indian effort so far although with numerous smaller contributions from the rest of the side. Interesting to note that all of the dismissals in this innings so far have been LBW.

On another note, the referral system is a complete waste of time, we've had two absolute shockers in this match and I really don't know what this system actually adds to the game.
 
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West Indies are 5/445, Sarwan got his double hundred and is 220 not out with Ramdin on 31.

Only behind by 155 now and England's chances of winning the game fade with each over that West Indies face. None of the bowlers have looked troubling so far today for Sarwan who is in very good touch.

Still plenty of time left but England need wickets and they need them now. West Indies will be content to just keep batting. This partnership is worth 11 by the way, a very useful stand.
 
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