shark bite
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Re: Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)
get over it mate
Renny24;229221 said:
get over it mate
Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)
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shark bite
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Re: Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)
spot on gcc101 just because these blokes can play doesnt mean any stable club would want them on board. there more of a disruption to your club.
they are perfect for st albans
GCC101;229187 said:
spot on gcc101 just because these blokes can play doesnt mean any stable club would want them on board. there more of a disruption to your club.
they are perfect for st albans
Second XI At Best
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Re: Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)
Ahh yes bringing back the geek factor to the forum. Brilliant!!
Nah Gca- thats some good stuff right there- guess it just proves that a majority of people slaggin off in here dont actually have any facts...Glad u have come in with some hard evidence! Interesting point u make about west- imagine their domination in GCA 2. But i think newcomb will be firm favorites.
gca_ipl;229258 said:With the promotion between division 1 and 2 it is based on a 4 year rolling average of the club assessment that is done each year by the GCA. The assessment includes an on field component which accounts for roughly 40% of the assessment. Any points that say a division 1 club gets in a previous season in div 2, they would only get 40% of the club championship points they got in div 2. This makes it hard for clubs that have just come up. The other points are made up of junior teams, administration, facilities, turf wicket facilities, number of teams, onfield reports, etc. If a club does what it is supposed to do off the field then all these points should be so simple to get, so basically for a club that is well run, the only difference between them and another club in their division should be club championship points. So on the 4 year average as at the end of this season, we have the following order:
- East Belmont
- St Joeys
- South Barwon
- Grovedale
- North Geelong
- Newtown
- Lara
- Geelong City
- Leopold
- Bell Post Hill
- Newcomb & District
- Geelong West
- Manifold
- Torquay
As you can see City were not in the equation of getting relegated this season as in previous years they had performed quiet well, so it does protect teams from having a bad year if they were solid in previous years. So if you take out the Manifold and Torquay from this year then West and Newcomb would be in the firing line if they keep up the same rolling average. Hmmm, interesting if West 1st XI have a big year but the rest of the club perform poorly then they may be in trouble. Dunno, but this should start a bit of a debate other than just City V St Albans
Ahh yes bringing back the geek factor to the forum. Brilliant!!
Nah Gca- thats some good stuff right there- guess it just proves that a majority of people slaggin off in here dont actually have any facts...Glad u have come in with some hard evidence! Interesting point u make about west- imagine their domination in GCA 2. But i think newcomb will be firm favorites.
Second XI At Best
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Re: Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)
Im with u Rennie. Ive never had a problem with city except elliot and the red head...but im struggling to find reasons to like them atm!!
Smokin joes spot on though- sort the wheat from the sugar or whatever the eff his saying was!!
Renny24;229225 said:
Im with u Rennie. Ive never had a problem with city except elliot and the red head...but im struggling to find reasons to like them atm!!
Smokin joes spot on though- sort the wheat from the sugar or whatever the eff his saying was!!
shark bite
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Re: Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)
you dont have to read every post. i havent played against them either mate but i know there are a few tossers down there
Renny24;229225 said:
you dont have to read every post. i havent played against them either mate but i know there are a few tossers down there
Renny24
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Re: Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)
Look there are tossers at City, probably tossers at St Albans and there have been tossers at the couple of clubs I have played with. Every club in the cricket world has tossers. I have played against Jason Murray a few times and all bar once he was like anyone else; the other time he went off because one of our blokes wound him up and it was just in the heat of the match. I had a beer with him after the game and he was fine. It's the blokes you can't have a beer with after the game that are the real worry. Anyway guys, let's just be constructive.
shark bite;229227 said:
Look there are tossers at City, probably tossers at St Albans and there have been tossers at the couple of clubs I have played with. Every club in the cricket world has tossers. I have played against Jason Murray a few times and all bar once he was like anyone else; the other time he went off because one of our blokes wound him up and it was just in the heat of the match. I had a beer with him after the game and he was fine. It's the blokes you can't have a beer with after the game that are the real worry. Anyway guys, let's just be constructive.
Second XI At Best
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Re: Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)
Spot on old mate
Smokin Joe;229272 said:
Spot on old mate
Bringbackwarney
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Re: Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)
juniors are very important to clubs, but i don't think there as important as they where in the past.
i say this because any half decent kid ends up at geelong usually stays there for many years, this is a good thing for the kids development but not so for the clubs who do the hard work bringing them through.
I think this is why alot of clubs have to recruit players from outside at times.
whats people thoughts on this????
Smokin Joe;229249 said:
juniors are very important to clubs, but i don't think there as important as they where in the past.
i say this because any half decent kid ends up at geelong usually stays there for many years, this is a good thing for the kids development but not so for the clubs who do the hard work bringing them through.
I think this is why alot of clubs have to recruit players from outside at times.
whats people thoughts on this????
dickiebird
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Re: Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)
a very serious man this renny fella. i bet his clubs were joeys and newtown.
think your a top bloke joe. just read the banter and move on and not stress over it.
i thinks its quite humourous this slanging match.
Smokin Joe;229235 said:
a very serious man this renny fella. i bet his clubs were joeys and newtown.
think your a top bloke joe. just read the banter and move on and not stress over it.
i thinks its quite humourous this slanging match.
Renny24
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Re: Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)
It's a double-edged sword I think. A club can take a great deal of pride in seeing one of their own juniors end up at Geelong and take strides in a career at a higher level. I would have thought though that looking a a junior program as a whole, you would be lucky to get say 1 kid out of every 50 that gets the opportunity to go. Recruitment will always happen; it needs to for a club to stay competitive; ie you need to replace players you lose, especially when the kids coming through aren't quite ready. History also tells us that many kids who go down to Geelong end up back at their clubs of origin as well.
If I can just bring something else to the table though; I think that there should be some sort of rule in place that once a player decides to leave Geelong, he should be bound to his former club for one year so that at least that club can be returned in kind in some form. ie. A Fergusson/B Smiljanic ex-St Peters; D Koliba ex-Thomson; all chased the dollar instead.
Bringbackwarney;229318 said:
It's a double-edged sword I think. A club can take a great deal of pride in seeing one of their own juniors end up at Geelong and take strides in a career at a higher level. I would have thought though that looking a a junior program as a whole, you would be lucky to get say 1 kid out of every 50 that gets the opportunity to go. Recruitment will always happen; it needs to for a club to stay competitive; ie you need to replace players you lose, especially when the kids coming through aren't quite ready. History also tells us that many kids who go down to Geelong end up back at their clubs of origin as well.
If I can just bring something else to the table though; I think that there should be some sort of rule in place that once a player decides to leave Geelong, he should be bound to his former club for one year so that at least that club can be returned in kind in some form. ie. A Fergusson/B Smiljanic ex-St Peters; D Koliba ex-Thomson; all chased the dollar instead.
tracerbullet
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Re: Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)
Dear CCC 101
As an ex A,B,C and now D grade player with over 300 games, a committee member of 15 years, ex senior and junior coach and President of of more than 5 years at St Albans Breakwater Cricket Club I feel Im qualified to set a few things straight, so here goes.
The biggest challenge at my club is to retain junior players due to other clubs including GCA, Div 1 & 2 and BPCA trying to poach them. They do this for several reasons our younger players have good groundings in the Game and they are taught to respect themselves and others, but also be proud of who they are. Mick Thompson and Garry Ralph have looked after our juniors for years and anyone who knows them will understand that they are very professional in their coaching and they have a huge respect from our committee.
Our under 17 side lost the GCA Divison one grand final last season and several of those players are now playing senior cricket at GCA clubs due to a higher level and the experience of turf. One GCA club in particular has interviewed one of our 15 year olds to move there now I hope this doesnt eventuate as he is a great club person and so is his family.
As a club we are absoultley rapt with Jason Murray and Chris Jones but as for GCA rejects I know they have both rejected some very good offers from GCA Clubs both Div 1 & 2 and BPCA for this coming season. However they have stuck with us as they can see our club is on the move in the right direction.
Yes it is true that we are installing a turf wicket but thats not for our past or present players, this is done for our juniors and future players. I do agree that this forum was not intended to have a go at others and I hope that when our players take to the field they do it knowing that they too come from a proud club who gives young and old alike a place to enjoy their cricket.
I wish all the clubs in the region good luck for the coming season and an open invitation to anyone who might consider dropping in for a cold beer and the occasional game of cards.
All the best Jock Irvine, President St Albans Breakwater Cricket Club
GCC101;229177 said:
Dear CCC 101
As an ex A,B,C and now D grade player with over 300 games, a committee member of 15 years, ex senior and junior coach and President of of more than 5 years at St Albans Breakwater Cricket Club I feel Im qualified to set a few things straight, so here goes.
The biggest challenge at my club is to retain junior players due to other clubs including GCA, Div 1 & 2 and BPCA trying to poach them. They do this for several reasons our younger players have good groundings in the Game and they are taught to respect themselves and others, but also be proud of who they are. Mick Thompson and Garry Ralph have looked after our juniors for years and anyone who knows them will understand that they are very professional in their coaching and they have a huge respect from our committee.
Our under 17 side lost the GCA Divison one grand final last season and several of those players are now playing senior cricket at GCA clubs due to a higher level and the experience of turf. One GCA club in particular has interviewed one of our 15 year olds to move there now I hope this doesnt eventuate as he is a great club person and so is his family.
As a club we are absoultley rapt with Jason Murray and Chris Jones but as for GCA rejects I know they have both rejected some very good offers from GCA Clubs both Div 1 & 2 and BPCA for this coming season. However they have stuck with us as they can see our club is on the move in the right direction.
Yes it is true that we are installing a turf wicket but thats not for our past or present players, this is done for our juniors and future players. I do agree that this forum was not intended to have a go at others and I hope that when our players take to the field they do it knowing that they too come from a proud club who gives young and old alike a place to enjoy their cricket.
I wish all the clubs in the region good luck for the coming season and an open invitation to anyone who might consider dropping in for a cold beer and the occasional game of cards.
All the best Jock Irvine, President St Albans Breakwater Cricket Club
Babies Arm
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Re: Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)
with a club like city, i bet they want nothing to do with sharkbite. im sure a few older heads would cringe at this joke that says his from city.
Smokin Joe;229240 said:
with a club like city, i bet they want nothing to do with sharkbite. im sure a few older heads would cringe at this joke that says his from city.
whatdoumeanwashe
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Re: Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)
Got a question for some of you div2 players, im with one of the new div3 teams from slca. So i was wondering if you could give me a heads up on some of the better players from Guild ,Corio Bay and Little River or any other players that we are likely to come up against.
Got a question for some of you div2 players, im with one of the new div3 teams from slca. So i was wondering if you could give me a heads up on some of the better players from Guild ,Corio Bay and Little River or any other players that we are likely to come up against.
Renny24
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Re: Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)
Wouldn't have thought you would have too much to worry about. Justin Larkins makes a lot of runs for Guild, Dave Middleton also a pretty decent bowler and Wayne Kelly a decent cricketer. On his day Marcus Cowdrey can make runs also. Little River's Lionel Balzan makes a few but is a woodchopper. Corio Bay's Mick Ebborn has left; he made 500 runs two seasons ago but there would be little left in the cupboard I would imagine. Corio Bay would be under massive pressure this seson I would think.
whatdoumeanwashe;229353 said:
Wouldn't have thought you would have too much to worry about. Justin Larkins makes a lot of runs for Guild, Dave Middleton also a pretty decent bowler and Wayne Kelly a decent cricketer. On his day Marcus Cowdrey can make runs also. Little River's Lionel Balzan makes a few but is a woodchopper. Corio Bay's Mick Ebborn has left; he made 500 runs two seasons ago but there would be little left in the cupboard I would imagine. Corio Bay would be under massive pressure this seson I would think.
Babies Arm
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Re: Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)
read the crap his talkin. all city rubbish.
the truth is last year they were no good, this year they'll be no good and if it wasnt for daddy agg they would be where manifold is. simple.
luckiest club in the gca. how do bph who won a div1 flag then ended up in div 2 feel???
Smokin Joe;229247 said:
read the crap his talkin. all city rubbish.
the truth is last year they were no good, this year they'll be no good and if it wasnt for daddy agg they would be where manifold is. simple.
luckiest club in the gca. how do bph who won a div1 flag then ended up in div 2 feel???
Les Leslieson
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Re: Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)
You talk tough babies arm....for a guy with the softest name in the forum (other than mine). I bet ur just a sheep dog.
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Babies Arm;229257 said:
You talk tough babies arm....for a guy with the softest name in the forum (other than mine). I bet ur just a sheep dog.
@|
Les Leslieson
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Re: Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)
But im not here to talk tough with a guy who probably wears a skirt.
When is the break getting its own team? Im hearing names like Smiljanic, Ando, Babbs being loyal to one club and one alone- it seems to be the breakwater!!
The juniors and finance dept could be an issue for the future, but if the gave a pot per run/wicket im sure they would have a solid and loyal team for the next 3 years or so!
But im not here to talk tough with a guy who probably wears a skirt.
When is the break getting its own team? Im hearing names like Smiljanic, Ando, Babbs being loyal to one club and one alone- it seems to be the breakwater!!
The juniors and finance dept could be an issue for the future, but if the gave a pot per run/wicket im sure they would have a solid and loyal team for the next 3 years or so!
fineleg2fineleg
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Re: Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)
Your not Lesley Leslieson from Leopold are you???
Les Leslieson;229384 said:
Your not Lesley Leslieson from Leopold are you???
Babies Arm
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Re: Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)
thats why cranny plays at city... his the biggest meathead around, marsland, meathead. who the redhead that plays in the 2s....... biggest meathead in gca.
dont point the bone loser.
shark bite;229224 said:
thats why cranny plays at city... his the biggest meathead around, marsland, meathead. who the redhead that plays in the 2s....... biggest meathead in gca.
dont point the bone loser.
Bringbackwarney
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Re: Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)
you do realize this is bigcricket.com not bigfooty.com dont you?
Les Leslieson;229384 said:
you do realize this is bigcricket.com not bigfooty.com dont you?
cheer_cheer
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Re: Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)
With the promotion between division 1 and 2 it is based on a 4 year rolling average of the club assessment that is done each year by the GCA. The assessment includes an on field component which accounts for roughly 40% of the assessment. Any points that say a division 1 club gets in a previous season in div 2, they would only get 40% of the club championship points they got in div 2. This makes it hard for clubs that have just come up. The other points are made up of junior teams, administration, facilities, turf wicket facilities, number of teams, onfield reports, etc. If a club does what it is supposed to do off the field then all these points should be so simple to get, so basically for a club that is well run, the only difference between them and another club in their division should be club championship points. So on the 4 year average as at the end of this season, we have the following order:
As you can see City were not in the equation of getting relegated this season as in previous years they had performed quiet well, so it does protect teams from having a bad year if they were solid in previous years. So if you take out the Manifold and Torquay from this year then West and Newcomb would be in the firing line if they keep up the same rolling average. Hmmm, interesting if West 1st XI have a big year but the rest of the club perform poorly then they may be in trouble. Dunno, but this should start a bit of a debate other than just City V St Albans
With the promotion between division 1 and 2 it is based on a 4 year rolling average of the club assessment that is done each year by the GCA. The assessment includes an on field component which accounts for roughly 40% of the assessment. Any points that say a division 1 club gets in a previous season in div 2, they would only get 40% of the club championship points they got in div 2. This makes it hard for clubs that have just come up. The other points are made up of junior teams, administration, facilities, turf wicket facilities, number of teams, onfield reports, etc. If a club does what it is supposed to do off the field then all these points should be so simple to get, so basically for a club that is well run, the only difference between them and another club in their division should be club championship points. So on the 4 year average as at the end of this season, we have the following order:
- East Belmont
- St Joeys
- South Barwon
- Grovedale
- North Geelong
- Newtown
- Lara
- Geelong City
- Leopold
- Bell Post Hill
- Newcomb & District
- Geelong West
- Manifold
- Torquay
As you can see City were not in the equation of getting relegated this season as in previous years they had performed quiet well, so it does protect teams from having a bad year if they were solid in previous years. So if you take out the Manifold and Torquay from this year then West and Newcomb would be in the firing line if they keep up the same rolling average. Hmmm, interesting if West 1st XI have a big year but the rest of the club perform poorly then they may be in trouble. Dunno, but this should start a bit of a debate other than just City V St Albans
Bringbackwarney
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Re: Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)
im pretty sure babies arm is off austin powers, you know babies arm holding an apple!!!! get it
Les Leslieson;229384 said:
im pretty sure babies arm is off austin powers, you know babies arm holding an apple!!!! get it
AB1
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Re: Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)
Excellent - Some intellectual debate. Good work Mr IPL. Seems they must have got it right.....
gca_ipl;229258 said:With the promotion between division 1 and 2 it is based on a 4 year rolling average of the club assessment that is done each year by the GCA. The assessment includes an on field component which accounts for roughly 40% of the assessment. Any points that say a division 1 club gets in a previous season in div 2, they would only get 40% of the club championship points they got in div 2. This makes it hard for clubs that have just come up. The other points are made up of junior teams, administration, facilities, turf wicket facilities, number of teams, onfield reports, etc. If a club does what it is supposed to do off the field then all these points should be so simple to get, so basically for a club that is well run, the only difference between them and another club in their division should be club championship points. So on the 4 year average as at the end of this season, we have the following order:
- East Belmont
- St Joeys
- South Barwon
- Grovedale
- North Geelong
- Newtown
- Lara
- Geelong City
- Leopold
- Bell Post Hill
- Newcomb & District
- Geelong West
- Manifold
- Torquay
As you can see City were not in the equation of getting relegated this season as in previous years they had performed quiet well, so it does protect teams from having a bad year if they were solid in previous years. So if you take out the Manifold and Torquay from this year then West and Newcomb would be in the firing line if they keep up the same rolling average. Hmmm, interesting if West 1st XI have a big year but the rest of the club perform poorly then they may be in trouble. Dunno, but this should start a bit of a debate other than just City V St Albans
Excellent - Some intellectual debate. Good work Mr IPL. Seems they must have got it right.....
Bringbackwarney
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Re: Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)
yeah, i agree with that 100% i'd even go further and say any kid that comes through a clubs junior program should have to stay for a season at least no matter what, whether there a turf club in gca1 or 2 or whether there hard wicket in gca3 or bpca or playing at stiglitz it shouldn't matter.
with what tracerbullet was saying in previous post theres too many clubs trying to pouch junior players and this should be off limits until they have given back to the club that brought them through and put so much time into them.
Renny24;229325 said:
yeah, i agree with that 100% i'd even go further and say any kid that comes through a clubs junior program should have to stay for a season at least no matter what, whether there a turf club in gca1 or 2 or whether there hard wicket in gca3 or bpca or playing at stiglitz it shouldn't matter.
with what tracerbullet was saying in previous post theres too many clubs trying to pouch junior players and this should be off limits until they have given back to the club that brought them through and put so much time into them.
Renny24
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Re: Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)
I can honestly say that I have never played for either Newtown or St Joeys, nor will I ever. St Joeys I have found are decent guys; only one tosser; Jason Stein; Newtown similar except for Ian Hastie. Possibly one of Geelong's finest. Hang on Tsitas did play at Newtown...
I can honestly say that I have never played for either Newtown or St Joeys, nor will I ever. St Joeys I have found are decent guys; only one tosser; Jason Stein; Newtown similar except for Ian Hastie. Possibly one of Geelong's finest. Hang on Tsitas did play at Newtown...
Babies Arm
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Re: Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)
if your going to just jump on and not read everything, have your 2 bobs worth. this place is not for you.
as for being a sheepdog who wears a skirt. maybe i am, who cares.
your mum doesnt.
Les Leslieson;229384 said:
if your going to just jump on and not read everything, have your 2 bobs worth. this place is not for you.
as for being a sheepdog who wears a skirt. maybe i am, who cares.
your mum doesnt.
Re: Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)
koliba's not a thomson boy. came over and played 1 season in the U/16's and 1's. played in the 1's premeirship. went to geelong the next season. we got him from ocean grove where he played most his juniors. i think he may of started at drysdale. not to sure about that but.
Renny24;229325 said:
koliba's not a thomson boy. came over and played 1 season in the U/16's and 1's. played in the 1's premeirship. went to geelong the next season. we got him from ocean grove where he played most his juniors. i think he may of started at drysdale. not to sure about that but.
Second XI At Best
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Re: Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)
Ahh yes bringing back the geek factor to the forum. Brilliant!!
Nah Gca- thats some good stuff right there- guess it just proves that a majority of people slaggin off in here dont actually have any facts...Glad u have come in with some hard evidence! Interesting point u make about west- imagine their domination in GCA 2. But i think newcomb will be firm favorites.
gca_ipl;229258 said:With the promotion between division 1 and 2 it is based on a 4 year rolling average of the club assessment that is done each year by the GCA. The assessment includes an on field component which accounts for roughly 40% of the assessment. Any points that say a division 1 club gets in a previous season in div 2, they would only get 40% of the club championship points they got in div 2. This makes it hard for clubs that have just come up. The other points are made up of junior teams, administration, facilities, turf wicket facilities, number of teams, onfield reports, etc. If a club does what it is supposed to do off the field then all these points should be so simple to get, so basically for a club that is well run, the only difference between them and another club in their division should be club championship points. So on the 4 year average as at the end of this season, we have the following order:
- East Belmont
- St Joeys
- South Barwon
- Grovedale
- North Geelong
- Newtown
- Lara
- Geelong City
- Leopold
- Bell Post Hill
- Newcomb & District
- Geelong West
- Manifold
- Torquay
As you can see City were not in the equation of getting relegated this season as in previous years they had performed quiet well, so it does protect teams from having a bad year if they were solid in previous years. So if you take out the Manifold and Torquay from this year then West and Newcomb would be in the firing line if they keep up the same rolling average. Hmmm, interesting if West 1st XI have a big year but the rest of the club perform poorly then they may be in trouble. Dunno, but this should start a bit of a debate other than just City V St Albans
Ahh yes bringing back the geek factor to the forum. Brilliant!!
Nah Gca- thats some good stuff right there- guess it just proves that a majority of people slaggin off in here dont actually have any facts...Glad u have come in with some hard evidence! Interesting point u make about west- imagine their domination in GCA 2. But i think newcomb will be firm favorites.
AB1
Member
Re: Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)
Actually, it was first on the 12th Man, when Max Walker streaks to get his job back. "No wonder they call him tangles, it's like a baby's arm holding an apple".
Bringbackwarney;229398 said:im pretty sure babies arm is off austin powers, you know babies arm holding an apple!!!! get it
Actually, it was first on the 12th Man, when Max Walker streaks to get his job back. "No wonder they call him tangles, it's like a baby's arm holding an apple".
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