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Jessica 🤗 said:
No just sedation, it's good though as I've had it before 😁
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You say "just"? OK, then there must be a difference. From my experience it's the other way around: applying a local anaesthetic takes the "just" since it is the mildest form of anaesthetization during which you keep being awake and are fully accountable. The next stage is sedation where you get an injection that makes you drift off within a few seconds for half an hour or longer and leads to a retrograde amnesia when you wake up again . You're not accountable and must be supervised for 24 hours. The highest stage is narcosis or an anaesthesia that requires artificial respiration. I got sedated for the first time in my life two months ago and found it to be a very unpleasant experience.:eek:
If you had a sedation before, what was it like? Did you lose consciousness and couldn't remember anything afterwards?
 
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Is there anything that keeps you busy and preoccupied with for a longer time? There're several things on my plate. One is this.

As you may or may not know I live in a condo opening up to a piece of land or a private garden. The problem is that although it's "my" garden which I bought dearly, pay taxes for, and are fully accountable for if something goes wrong, the other owners have reserved a say for themselves as to what I'm allowed to do with it. If you don't want to change anything over years, it's fine but as soon as you do, there'll be 23 parties, most of them couples which means about 40 elderly people, who'd like to tell you what they (!) think I should do in my own garden. What a nuisance that is! As our national poet put it, you are dependent on the whims of their stomachs.
Although I'm almost as old as them, it turns out that most of them have a completely different mindset. They are the great preventers. They are against anything new such as individual wall boxes for EVs in our basement car park. They are against fibre optic cables being installed. They are against solar power systems installed on the roofs of our four houses.
What upsets me the most is that they cling to old-fashioned aesthetics which they want to impose on other people. It's not really surprising that I, as someone who grew up in a city that is renowned for being the cradle of the Bauhaus style, got deeply impressed by it as a young man and still am. To my dismay, our right-wing populist party has now put the abolishment of the Bauhaus style on its agenda, for it be "un-German", non-traditional, and allegedly lacking national roots, which is the same wording used by the Nazis. The other owners of our community seem to be ardent followers of that party because they declined my application to replace my predecessor's country-style garden shed by a trendy, modern, cubic one that is reminiscent of the Bauhaus style. That bothers me a lot. It means that their preferred style has not just prevailed for 20 years but will get cemented forever, at least for as long as I live.

Do you know of a similar constellation since I reckon owner-occupied flats are not very common in your neck of the woods, are they?
 
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looker-on said:
You say "just"? OK, then there must be a difference. From my experience it's the other way around: applying a local anaesthetic takes the "just" since it is the mildest form of anaesthetization during which you keep being awake and are fully accountable. The next stage is sedation where you get an injection that makes you drift off within a few seconds for half an hour or longer and leads to a retrograde amnesia when you wake up again . You're not accountable and must be supervised for 24 hours. The highest stage is narcosis or an anaesthesia that requires artificial respiration. I got sedated for the first time in my life two months ago and found it to be a very unpleasant experience.:eek:
If you had a sedation before, what was it like? Did you lose consciousness and couldn't remember anything afterwards?
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I had sedation through IV, it was given to me gradually, then I remember nothing so I presume I was under sedation, quite a pleasant experience really as I was told afterwards it took the dentist around an hour to remove my tooth as it had to be cut into pieces to remove it. The hospital now know how much sedation I require so it'll be pretty straightforward. I presume when I'm under I have needles in my gum but what I don't know doesn't bother me 😁
 
looker-on said:
Is there anything that keeps you busy and preoccupied with for a longer time? There're several things on my plate. One is this.

As you may or may not know I live in a condo opening up to a piece of land or a private garden. The problem is that although it's "my" garden which I bought dearly, pay taxes for, and are fully accountable for if something goes wrong, the other owners have reserved a say for themselves as to what I'm allowed to do with it. If you don't want to change anything over years, it's fine but as soon as you do, there'll be 23 parties, most of them couples which means about 40 elderly people, who'd like to tell you what they (!) think I should do in my own garden. What a nuisance that is! As our national poet put it, you are dependent on the whims of their stomachs.
Although I'm almost as old as them, it turns out that most of them have a completely different mindset. They are the great preventers. They are against anything new such as individual wall boxes for EVs in our basement car park. They are against fibre optic cables being installed. They are against solar power systems installed on the roofs of our four houses.
What upsets me the most is that they cling to old-fashioned aesthetics which they want to impose on other people. It's not really surprising that I, as someone who grew up in a city that is renowned for being the cradle of the Bauhaus style, got deeply impressed by it as a young man and still am. To my dismay, our right-wing populist party has now put the abolishment of the Bauhaus style on its agenda, for it be "un-German", non-traditional, and allegedly lacking national roots, which is the same wording used by the Nazis. The other owners of our community seem to be ardent followers of that party because they declined my application to replace my predecessor's country-style garden house by a trendy, modern, cubic one that is reminiscent of the Bauhaus style. That bothers me a lot. It means that their preferred style has not just prevailed for 20 years but will get cemented forever, at least for as long as I live.

Do you know of a similar constellation since I reckon owner-occupied flats are not very common in your neck of the woods, are they?
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Sorry to hear of your property woes Thomas. I understand your dilemma and offer my sympathies.
Aussies in strata units have their own annoying issues.
EV's are lovely, costly and green yet we've not addressed the issue of how to charge them in blocks of flats. The usual red tape nonsense is slow and cumbersome here too.

I've been put under several times for operations and had a certain Colonoscopy decades ago I'll never forget. Just as I was going under the Surgeon said "It's a vasectomy isn't it Terry?"

He must have known my sense of humour, a bit like his.
It was funny.

Anecdotally I've heard elderly relatives receiving general anesthetics have had brain fogginess afterwards lasting a long time. My 80yo Sydney sider brother has recanted such to me about himself.

Once I had a big Sinus Operation and was given some stong drug for the pain afterwards. Pethadine, something like Cocaine ??
I don't remember but see how people get addicted to such stuff.
It worked very well dulling the pain. 🤪
 
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Im still waiting for my hospital appointment to have my wisdom tooth out, just hoping I get it out before Christmas so you guys keep your fingers crossed for me! 🤞
 
Coincidently one of my back top molars is feeling tender but maybe just related to another issue?
Dental work in Australia is mostly unfunded and expensive.
I have a slush fund for such contingencies rather than more insurance policies.
That gives me incentive to look after my ivories as best I can. Even my dog's. Vet bills can be big like about $3k this year alone.
My ageing dog cost me $95 just today after straining his leg fighting with my new cat. Cat-ching!
 
Sorry to hear about your molar,Terry. Dentist and Vet cost an arm and a leg over here, to. My wife got a bill worth a small car (9,000€) last year. Insurance schemes reduced it to ca. 2,000€ if I remember correctly. My dog has to see the vet regularly and sets us back between 60€ and 230€ each month.
 
looker-on said:
Sorry to hear about your molar,Terry. Dentist and Vet cost an arm and a leg over here, to. My wife got a bill worth a small car (9,000€) last year. Insurance schemes reduced it to ca. 2,000€ if I remember correctly. My dog has to see the vet regularly and sets us back between 60€ and 230€ each month.
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The real pain of dental work for pet or human here is the cost I reckon. For a root canal and crown my cost guess is about $3,000 to $4,000.
 
I am entitled to free NHS dental treatment, and as I have quite good healthy teeth I haven't got a dentist, and was told there's an 18 month waiting list for an NHS dentist, so I dug into my savings and went private, £35.00 for a first appointment, then £80.00 for a deep clean and root planing. My wisdom tooth has earned me a referral to hospital to have it removed, so at least I won't have to pay. 😁
 
Vets are actually relatively poorly paid given the considerable education and training it requires.

Anyone after money would be a in another profession.
 
Kram81 said:
Vets are actually relatively poorly paid given the considerable education and training it requires.

Anyone after money would be a in another profession.
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..and worth every cent as mine saved my Bonnies life when she ate dark choc as a puppy.
 
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Jessica 🤗 said:
I am entitled to free NHS dental treatment, and as I have quite good healthy teeth I haven't got a dentist, and was told there's an 18 month waiting list for an NHS dentist, so I dug into my savings and went private, £35.00 for a first appointment, then £80.00 for a deep clean and root planing. My wisdom tooth has earned me a referral to hospital to have it removed, so at least I won't have to pay. 😁
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That worked out well for you Jessica, well done.
35 + 80= £115= $A224 which is fairly cheap for Austrailia.

My cat and dog had a rumble the other day and he sprained his shoulder. $137 for quick exam and medicine.
 
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