The Serious Discussion Thread.

[looker-on]

Live Putin Conference!!

I watched it all the way through with some jumping but did not find the point at which he exploded over what precisely? Where is it in the video? Who is he talking to? Journalists from various countries?

Apart from that, my comment is this:
Germany is not sovereign? True, gas is supplied to East European countries like Hungary and Slovakia. The one still operational pipeline has never been used for them: that's the logic, Mr Putin. He's right about the cost of LNG but it shows how furious he inwardly is about the fact that Western Europe does not take his gas any longer.
True, the Russian economy is resilient but he failed to say why: because it's a war economy only and will collapse once the war is over.

 

[Grier]

Harry Potter fan?

A little bit. Poor Peter has a hair issue that made him look like Voldermorte.

How do they get in at airports with all their security checks?

We do ok and tonight I'm watching our "Border Force" tv series. All fairly current stuff and the numbers of violators is a strong and ongoing strem. Bio security for our fragile eco system, drugs, drugs, drugs, illegal wannabe migrants, student and tourist overstayers, hate preachers, ... it goes on no doubt.

 

[Richie]

True, the Russian economy is resilient but he failed to say why: because it's a war economy only and will collapse once the war is over.

Spot on Thomas. He must've been dreading Ukraine cutting off his gas pipeline. Surprised Zelensky waited this long. Has Germany found an alternate gas source yet and who else is no longer taking Russian gas?

 

[Richie]

I watched it all the way through with some jumping but did not find the point at which he exploded over what precisely?

Me either. Evidently it was live. Could that journo have asked mad Vlad ,''why didnt Russia join NATO when it was offered it in 1954''. The journo should've known the reason being that America opposed it.

The situation is volatile now but relations were hunky dory between Russia and NATO in the 1990s. That I believe was around the time when Gorby came on the scene. A rare peacemaker compared to the usual war mongers.

Relations between the NATO military alliance and the Russian Federation were established in 1991 within the framework of the North Atlantic Cooperation Council. In 1994, Russia joined the Partnership for Peace program, and on 27 May 1997, the NATO–Russia Founding Act (NRFA) was signed at the 1997 Paris NATO Summit in France, enabling the creation of the NATO–Russia Permanent Joint Council.

 

[Richie]

Lord Voldamorte Dutton

I've always called him Uncle Fester. But he is a better pollie than Albo and prob Sco Mo too imo.

 

[Grier]

I've always called him Uncle Fester. But he is a better pollie than Albo and prob Sco Mo too imo.

A Drover's dog would have done a better job than Scomo. Worst ever PM imo. Labor's Mark Lathan was dreadful too. I thought Liberal's Turnbull was great. And I'll always be gratefull to Howard for getting rid of the guns. Keating is still my favourite ex PM.

 

[Grier]

Me either. Evidently it was live. Could that journo have asked mad Vlad ,''why didnt Russia join NATO when it was offered it in 1954''. The journo should've known the reason being that America opposed it.

The situation is volatile now but relations were hunky dory between Russia and NATO in the 1990s. That I believe was around the time when Gorby came on the scene. A rare peacemaker compared to the usual war mongers.

Relations between the NATO military alliance and the Russian Federation were established in 1991 within the framework of the North Atlantic Cooperation Council. In 1994, Russia joined the Partnership for Peace program, and on 27 May 1997, the NATO–Russia Founding Act (NRFA) was signed at the 1997 Paris NATO Summit in France, enabling the creation of the NATO–Russia Permanent Joint Council.

I hope Putin does bankrupt Russia. What a horrible legacy he's made for himself. It's Great that Europe has found alternate ways to get its fuels. Put that in your pipe and smoke it up your nose Mr nasty Putin!
Similarly our Australia did the same in finding new markets when China put huge tariffs on our trade to them. That nicely upset the Chinese.

I believe it has been a proxy war for both sides in Eastern Ukraine, but China is busy as is the US of those northern angry Americans, not the nice Canadians. Ultimately the cost of Putin's illegal war of aggression has been borne by many, especially by the Ukranians and Putin's poor cannon fodder.
Memories of Mussolini's end come to mind.

 

[looker-on]

Has Germany found an alternate gas source yet and who else is no longer taking Russian gas?

No one is. Russian gas supplies to Europe have ceased completely, which makes him so furious. Germany has been buying LNG from the US and normal gas from other countries instead.

 

[Richie]

Germany has been buying LNG from the US and normal gas from other countries instead.

Good on Deutchlande Thomas and the other nations. To my knowledge Aust is third largest LNG producer/exporter. I hope your country bears that in mind. I digress, this will be a huge hit to the tyrants war chest, while the good Russian people will further struggle to live as the Kremlin will prob order the Duma to double their tax to cover the gas revenue loss, resulting in an uproar. Dare we see a revolution in modern Russia driven by the power of the people.